dubdubdub Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Unfortunately his track record suggests he will take us down, he is tactically inept and unable to organise the team. Adam is all left foot, did we mark him, why didnt we push him onto his right foot? we allowed the one player who could do damage to knock the ball all over the place, Keans tactic was obvious, get at them early and get a couple of goals, could have worked but of course he left us exposed AGAIN at the back and in midfield and it took the players to get the lads fired up at half time. Speculation? no a calculated judgement based on evidence of his managerial skills. Well my judgement of that game was that we were well and truly jacked by the referee. I couldn't fault the performance much. In the first twenty minutes we outplayed them but found ourselves two nil down at half time thanks to an absurd penalty and a corker of a free kick (should have marked him better to make him take that with his right eh?). Who was it who reverted the team to a plan B anyway? Was that the team? Fact of the matter is we were undeservedly two down at half time and it wasn't just the players who won a point. The tactics were completely different in the second half. The fact we even have a plan B is a big improvement over the walking pie.
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Majiball Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Why? A mediocre manager would be better than Kean, he's far worse than mediocre. Not that he would be anywhere near my first choice, but even someone like Gary Megson would be a massive improvement. Kean really is that bad. But a mediocre manager will have to earn their respect, a top boss will have it the second he walks in the door. With so few games remaining the later gives us a better chance of surviving and that's the point of sacking him, maximising our chances. If it is decided he should leave then I hope to god we don't have Rafa lined up. Liverpool became so detached from the community under his management and you'd have to reason he'd do the same here.
dubdubdub Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 he's going nowhere folks. save your energy, buy something nice for the missus and enjoy your friday night! With Kean at the helm! No chance. Suicide seems to be on the cards for most chaps tonight by the read of things. I'm astonished Rovers have any fans left.
joey_big_nose Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Why? A mediocre manager would be better than Kean, he's far worse than mediocre. Not that he would be anywhere near my first choice, but even someone like Gary Megson would be a massive improvement. Kean really is that bad. I don't think so. Megson would increase our chances of the club going down because that sort of appointment would undermine the players totally and make heads go down. Kean may be a rubbish manager but at least the players look to be playing for him and they know him. To swap Kean out for someone terrible (even someone less terrible than Kean) could have a massive psychological blow on the players, and the fans who would go absolutely ape. A much worse scenario than keeping what we have. Quality or no change.
Mattyblue Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 If it is decided he should leave then I hope to god we don't have Rafa lined up. Liverpool became so detached from the community under his management and you'd have to reason he'd do the same here. Really Maj? Those mawkish Red Scousers always banged on about how Rafa 'got LFC', lived on the Wirral, gave money to the Hillsborough fund etc etc
rebelmswar Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I don't think so. Megson would increase our chances of the club going down because that sort of appointment would undermine the players totally and make heads go down. Kean may be a rubbish manager but at least the players look to be playing for him and they know him. To swap Kean out for someone terrible (even someone less terrible than Kean) could have a massive psychological blow on the players, and the fans who would go absolutely ape. A much worse scenario than keeping what we have. Quality or no change. In my opinion when addressing the quality enigma with Kean is hard to do. When you walk into a car dealership and see a whole bunch of nice BMW's and Merc's you feel slightly put off that you are driving a Fiesta XR2. This Fiesta runs okay, has fits and starts, was cheap and relatively good on the fuel consumption. You just don't trust it to get you to work on time, and in the end, it may cost you your position at your job if you continue to be late. If you are then offered a used BMW that has good mileage and a good running history do you say "No thanks, it may upset the wife and kids"
dubdubdub Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 In my opinion when addressing the quality enigma with Kean is hard to do. When you walk into a car dealership and see a whole bunch of nice BMW's and Merc's you feel slightly put off that you are driving a Fiesta XR2. This Fiesta runs okay, has fits and starts, was cheap and relatively good on the fuel consumption. You just don't trust it to get you to work on time, and in the end, it may cost you your position at your job if you continue to be late. If you are then offered a used BMW that has good mileage and a good running history do you say "No thanks, it may upset the wife and kids" If you had a ham sandwich which tastes fine but the bread is a little dry and may make you need a drink; then a BLT comes along...
Kelbo Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Well my judgement of that game was that we were well and truly jacked by the referee. I couldn't fault the performance much. In the first twenty minutes we outplayed them but found ourselves two nil down at half time thanks to an absurd penalty and a corker of a free kick (should have marked him better to make him take that with his right eh?). Who was it who reverted the team to a plan B anyway? Was that the team? Fact of the matter is we were undeservedly two down at half time and it wasn't just the players who won a point. The tactics were completely different in the second half. The fact we even have a plan B is a big improvement over the walking pie. Look again, where did the penalty come from, how did the free kick occur and who was fouled? maybe a bad reffing decision gave them a pen, I can agree 100% on that one, I've said before, he is like a Kamakaze pilot attacking but leaving ourselves exposed, even the Liverpool game where we were 3 - 0 up we couldnt keep it tight at the back, he cant organise the defence at all because he is playing unilateral football and opponents know how to exploit us, even the WBA results, they could have had a bagful of goals. We have Arsenal next, I know the tactics I would be deploying, try to football them to death and they will murder us, wide, through the middle the lot, we bypass midfield and put the keeper and |Centre Backs under pressure, they are weak there, my bet is he wont though.
Bobby G Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Id sack him no matter how many games are left. No way is it risky to let him go this late in the season with the alternative of him "managing" us.
rebelmswar Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 If you had a ham sandwich which tastes fine but the bread is a little dry and may make you need a drink; then a BLT comes along... The salty bacon would not help your plight.
Mc Love Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 If the rumours are true, I bet Kean is charming the knickers off Mrs D right now, trying to keep his job!
Majiball Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Really Maj? Those mawkish Red Scousers always banged on about how Rafa 'got LFC', lived on the Wirral, gave money to the Hillsborough fund etc etc Most of the guys I've heard that sort of comment off are 50+ years old. Liverpool FC became very closed to the public when he came along and certain members of staff were very involved in schools and the such. The Spanish invasion saw lots of changes at the club & less involvement in the community from the Spanish replacements and so many older fans felt detached from their club. Liverpool before had always been about promoting from within, looking after your own attributes I would attach to Liverpudlians, all that changed when Rafa came along and some didn't like it one bit.
thenodrog Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 The turnaround v Blackpool was apparently down to Samba rousing the lads. If that is so then Kean is dead in the water. Samba must be well respected within the squad so Samba / Nelsen caretaker managers might be a better option to see the season out if that is what it would take to revitalise the troops and the supporters. The psychology might just work. Unusual but we are in unusual circumstances without either a Chairman or proper manager and pretty soon we may well have nothing to lose.
Kamy100 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 As I posted earlier, no one at Ewood has heard that Kean has been sacked. I think that this is a rumour that started on Twitter and snowballed from there. Rightly or wrongly, the only thing that Venky's have been consistent about is their support for Kean.
Ferrit Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Boooo You guys got me all revved up for a bit there, I thought we were all in for some cracking news. Guess we will have to wait till we get pumped by Arsenal for the Kean sacking rumour mills to start up again.
gumboots Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Kean is going nowhere Where are you holding him then?
BPF Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Where are you holding him then? The important part is that he's firmly secured to my holding place
Backroom Tom Posted March 25, 2011 Backroom Posted March 25, 2011 I very much doubt he will be leaving this season but bare in mind the insiders have been wrong at times this season. I wouldn't take anything for granted with this mob.
broadsword Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 No chance, Benitez is effin useless. He'd be even worse than useless with no money to spend too. X 100000000000000000000.
Guest linganzi Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Kean is going nowhere and then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like kean keeps his job
chaddyrovers Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I was getting all excited that Kean was going. Damm!!! look like he is staying! great
gumboots Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 and then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like kean keeps his job Actually he didn't - he could be staying at rovers as the toilet cleaner or something. He merely said he is going nowhere. Now Mrs Kean might be expecting him home for his tea so if I were her I'd feed it to the dog or whatever as he's obviously not going to need it himself.
rebelmswar Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 I am now morbidly excited about the rest of the season. Should be thrilling in a very uncomfortable way. Like watching "Hostel" and hoping the person you like doesn't get mutilated.
pontyrover Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 We either get rid now and give a new man the International break to get things sorted or we stick with baldy and get thrashed at Arsenal. The worrying thing in all of this is the silence coming out of Ewood. Although we would be even more annoyed if Venkys were publicly slating Kean, it won't achieve anything. Rumours are more a case of wishful thinking unfortunately. Somebody please wake me up from this nightmare!
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