[Archived] Steve Kean

[imy9]

Laughable that we WILL finish 10th this season under Sam.

Not disputing that he is a good manager but with the lack of investment this year would have meant a struggle, especially when clubs like Sunderland, Fulham etc have invested a lot in players. There are only so many rabbits you can pull out of a hat, Everton are struggling for precisely that reason, lack of investment and selling your best players.

[John]

Obviously my opinion, and of course you and Bucky are entitled to yours. The Man City and Newcastle game this season showed our away form was improving albeit still not great however most teams have an indifferent results record away from home.

Yes we got pumped by Man Utd but in the next game what did we do, win.

Sam was highly rated, respected and liked as a manager to most of the first team - that counts a lot.

[Mercer]

You dont see what the owners see in Kean then you talk of a raneiri tugay double act. Laughable you really are.

Chaddyrovers follows Rovers home and away and is fully entitled to his opinion.

What is laughable is comparing Kean's record - none to begin with and whose credibility is plummeting downwards off the richter scale - with Ranieri, who has a successful track record in more than one country.

Ranieri wouldn't be my choice but he'd be one hell of an improvement on, IMO, the present puppet and muppet who masquerades as our manager.

[47er]

My stance has been sack Kean since the Fulham game! I am however trying to see the positives now that it is clear that he is not going anywhere.

John- you should tell the guys who think we were going to finish 10th this season that this may still happen...we may also finish bottom, that's the league this year, to think Sam would guarantee 10th is laughable, we could have finished 13th-10th on the last day of the previous season and improved this year by buying...Benjani, Sunderland who finished below us have bought Gyan for 13 million, the bloke from PSG for 7 million, etc.

J

No-one could guarantee that we'd have finished tenth (or better) under Sam but there are good reasons to believe we would.

[Tom]

Chaddyrovers follows Rovers home and away and is fully entitled to his opinion.

What is laughable is comparing Kean's record - none to begin with and plummeting downwards off the richter scale - with Ranieri, who has a successful track record in more than one country.

Ranieri wouldn't be my choice but he'd be one hell of an improvement on, IMO, the present puppet and muppet who masquerades as our manager.

He also spouts a load of rubbish most of the time. He mentions different names almost daily he's even worse in transfer windows linking every single player who scores a goal on TV.

[BPF]

We are in a car being driven by a blind driver with no arms. There is a rather large wall in the distance, it is getting nearer and nearer though...

[onlyonejackwalker]

Chaddyrovers follows Rovers home and away and is fully entitled to his opinion.

What is laughable is comparing Kean's record - none to begin with and whose credibility is plummeting downwards off the richter scale - with Ranieri, who has a successful track record in more than one country.

Ranieri wouldn't be my choice but he'd be one hell of an improvement on, IMO, the present puppet and muppet who masquerades as our manager.

Would love to see Tugay back in some capacity, but not sure Ranieri would be the right choice. Although he is very easy to like, a bit like Martin Jol, who would be my preferred option. We need someone with a touch of class!

These are the sort of names that should have been mentioned and considered weeks ago.

[47er]

Laughable that we WILL finish 10th this season under Sam.

Not disputing that he is a good manager but with the lack of investment this year would have meant a struggle, especially when clubs like Sunderland, Fulham etc have invested a lot in players. There are only so many rabbits you can pull out of a hat, Everton are struggling for precisely that reason, lack of investment and selling your best players.

So, he's a good manager but the lack of investment cf other teams means we would have struggled? So stupid to sack him then? And even more stupid to replace him with a non-manager?

[imy9]

Obviously my opinion, and of course you and Bucky are entitled to yours. The Man City and Newcastle game this season showed our away form was improving albeit still not great however most teams have an indifferent results record away from home.

Yes we got pumped by Man Utd but in the next game what did we do, win.

Sam was highly rated, respected and liked as a manager to most of the first team - that counts a lot.

Ironically the last statement fits with Kean too by the looks of it.

[Sysagent]

Has he not GONE yet?

[Mc Love]

The Raos really need to get their act together and sack him. They wont listen to the fans, only SEM & Kentaro - driving the club into the ground.

I hope the fans that turn up to the match chant Kean Out - the Rao's need to know how strongly we feel about it

[imy9]

So, he's a good manager but the lack of investment cf other teams means we would have struggled? So stupid to sack him then? And even more stupid to replace him with a non-manager?

I liked/ like Sam, I would not have sacked him mid season especially to hire a novice manager, however if you are going to invest money into a club then you have the right to make the decisions rightly or wrongly, I just hope the owners backing of Kean proves correct.

[Tom]

If Tugay was ever to come in then now is about the worst time imaginable, remember Shearer at Newcastle?

[broadsword]

Kean isn't a manager, and I suspect you know that.

[John]

Good man management is not being nice to the players the whole time, you need to keep them on their toes and also have a good assistant who you can delegate responsibilties to - ultimately it is getting the best out of players on a consistent basis.

[MeanGreenMachine]

Chaddyrovers follows Rovers home and away and is fully entitled to his opinion.

What is laughable is comparing Kean's record - none to begin with and whose credibility is plummeting downwards off the richter scale - with Ranieri, who has a successful track record in more than one country.

Ranieri wouldn't be my choice but he'd be one hell of an improvement on, IMO, the present puppet and muppet who masquerades as our manager.

People are saying ranieri without knowing diddly squat about him bar his stint at chelsea. But a short run through since his chelsea days...

Valencia SACKED

Parma TOLD HE WOULDNT HAVE A JOB FOR THE NEXT SEASON

Juve SACKED

Roma RESIGNED BEFORE BEING SACKED

The only time he was in a relegation battle was when he was at Parma. The rest of the time he has had chances at some massive clubs and cocked them all up. People are going for fancy foreign coaches rather than looking at this with a level head.

Either way, Kean wont be sacked.

[greco]

Ironically the last statement fits with Kean too by the looks of it.

perhaps.

we´ve got plunkett telling, that the players like kean and we have hoilett telling, it was senior players who took care, of the team talk af halftime, against blackpool.

if the playes like and plays for kean, i would imagine, he himself would step up and do his own teamtalk. Act as a leader.

my guess would be, that some players like kean, others dont care and some dislike him, thats the way it is, at every club.

[HemelRover]

I just don't understand what they see in Kean. We haven't won a game since the West Brom game. in the last 6 games we have only got 2 points from that.

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I think the Majority of the fans who go to the game do not want him as manager.

November through January last season:

Bolton PREM W 2-0

Fulham PREM L 0-3

Stoke City PREM D 0-0

Chelsea LGCP W 3-3 (aet 4-3 on pens)

Liverpool PREM D 0-0

Hull City PREM D 0-0

Birmingham PREM L 1-2

Tottenham PREM L 0-2

Wigan Athletic PREM D 1-1

Sunderland PREM D 2-2

Aston Villa FACP L 1-3

Manchester City PREM L 1-4

Aston Villa LGCP L 0-1

Fulham PREM W 2-0

I make that 9 games in the league without a win and 2 losses in the FA cup and the League cup also.

How many of us wanted Allardyce to stay during the above run?

[Majiball]

If you become manager of the reigning European champions, and are soon complaining that you need to buy some new players, then quite frankly you are a manager that relies more on the chequebook than the tactics board.

Inter Milan brought him back down to earth with a bang. The players like those he left behind at Liverpool did not like him very much. Rafa despite his Istanbul magic is well known for being not the best at man management & whilst not the disciplinarian Capello is he will ignore his players constantly ala Capello.

One man I think would fit like a glove would be Manuel Pelligrini the ex Villareal & Madrid manager, villareal and rovers have lots in common and I reckon he could do something similar here. He knows the SA market and the players there will know him that should appeal to the chicken overlords.

[47er]

November through January last season:

Bolton PREM W 2-0

Fulham PREM L 0-3

Stoke City PREM D 0-0

Chelsea LGCP W 3-3 (aet 4-3 on pens)

Liverpool PREM D 0-0

Hull City PREM D 0-0

Birmingham PREM L 1-2

Tottenham PREM L 0-2

Wigan Athletic PREM D 1-1

Sunderland PREM D 2-2

Aston Villa FACP L 1-3

Manchester City PREM L 1-4

Aston Villa LGCP L 0-1

Fulham PREM W 2-0

I make that 9 games in the league without a win and 2 losses in the FA cup and the League cup also.

How many of us wanted Allardyce to stay during the above run?

Me! I did! I said he'd turn it round.

[Mercer]

A manager's appointment should be based upon current circumstances, the league you are in and knowing if that manager's operating profile fits into the club in terms of both size and resource.

If Kean goes now, then logically, it would have to be a short term appointment until you knew what league we will be in.

If I was the owner, I would eat a massive amount of humble pie, go to Sam and say : we got it wrong, we are sorry, manage us until the end of the season, keep us up and, if you do, there's £1.5m and we will talk again at the end of the season.

I wouldn't care if I looked an incompetent tit, hold-up your hand, admit your mistake, apologise and try and preserve both your initial investment and, more importantly for all Rovers' supporters, the future of our club.

I simply don't think there is a better alternative and sticking with Kean is tantamount to suicide.

[greco]

Inter Milan brought him back down to earth with a bang. The players like those he left behind at Liverpool did not like him very much. Rafa despite his Istanbul magic is well known for being not the best at man management & whilst not the disciplinarian Capello is he will ignore his players constantly ala Capello.

One man I think would fit like a glove would be Manuel Pelligrini the ex Villareal & Madrid manager, villareal and rovers have lots in common and I reckon he could do something similar here. He knows the SA market and the players there will know him that should appeal to the chicken overlords.

he is a very good shout, he did excellent in assembling a quality villareal side and only got fired because of barca and their extraordinary team. Pelegrini got close to 100 point in his one season with real and thats a point total, thta even the mighty mourinho, is going to struggle to reach.

[chaddyrovers]

Manual Pelligrini is at Malaga at the minute. He took over in November and with them having a very rich owner in Abdullah bin Nasser bin Abdullah Al Ahmed Al Thani who is from Qatar and a Billionaire. Can't see him leaving but I can understand why you suggest him tho. Did a great job at RM.

I did say that SA would turn it around when we were going through that bad run because he has the experience and knowledge to do so. Kean hasn't because he never been a manager and the PL is not the place to learn your trade in.

I do follow rovers home and away, and have done for years. I do not go to every away game but between 5 and 10 a season. I am a very passin rovers fan who wants the best for our club. I accept that some of you wouldn't want Ranieri as manager and we would all have different views on who we would want. Football is all about OPINION!!!

Also I do watch alot of football. So that is why I suggest alot of players who alot of you wouldn't see.

[tony gale's mic]

November through January last season:

Bolton PREM W 2-0

Fulham PREM L 0-3

Stoke City PREM D 0-0

Chelsea LGCP W 3-3 (aet 4-3 on pens)

Liverpool PREM D 0-0

Hull City PREM D 0-0

Birmingham PREM L 1-2

Tottenham PREM L 0-2

Wigan Athletic PREM D 1-1

Sunderland PREM D 2-2

Aston Villa FACP L 1-3

Manchester City PREM L 1-4

Aston Villa LGCP L 0-1

Fulham PREM W 2-0

I make that 9 games in the league without a win and 2 losses in the FA cup and the League cup also.

How many of us wanted Allardyce to stay during the above run?

Anyone on this forum who had the mental capacity to recognise the difference between a manager with a proven track record over numerous seasons going through a poor run of form, and a novice manager out of his depth taking a mid table team towards relegation.

Sadly you don't appear to be one of those people.

[Gav]

November through January last season:

Bolton PREM W 2-0

Fulham PREM L 0-3

Stoke City PREM D 0-0

Chelsea LGCP W 3-3 (aet 4-3 on pens)

Liverpool PREM D 0-0

Hull City PREM D 0-0

Birmingham PREM L 1-2

Tottenham PREM L 0-2

Wigan Athletic PREM D 1-1

Sunderland PREM D 2-2

Aston Villa FACP L 1-3

Manchester City PREM L 1-4

Aston Villa LGCP L 0-1

Fulham PREM W 2-0

I make that 9 games in the league without a win and 2 losses in the FA cup and the League cup also.

How many of us wanted Allardyce to stay during the above run?

Great point, but it'll be lost on many.

For the record I don't think I wanted him out, nobody better to manage the club at the time.