[Archived] Steve Kean

[Gamst]

This is infuriating! These Kean interviews are horrible! I constantly have this feeling that the owners/Anderson and their puppet are trying to deceive the fans. I get the feeling we are constantly being lied to. I bet they knew they wanted Kean from the start and when they said he was in temporary charge and that they were looking for a big name manager, it was all a lie to prevent a fan backlash. Its almost as if they believed they knew better than us and thought Steve would come good and that we would all warm to him. They are patently stupid and Kean is a ridiculous excuse for a manager. He tries to deceive us week in week out with his damn interviews. They are cringeworthy! 'The lads are training well', 'we have good players', 'we are hoping for a top half finish'. It is all bullpoo! He uses media outlets that like him to put a positive spin on things in the media. The perfect example was this morning...the article in the LET was nausea inducing. He said, 'I think the decision against us in the last minute at Fulham was a bit of a turning point'. Turning point to what? It was proceeded by an atrocious 45mins against Blackpool! He also thinks that the pressure brings out the best in the players 'When there is massive responsibility on the lads to get something to make sure we are moving in the right direction, sometimes that gives an edge and you get performances like that'. Really Steven, was the 2-2 draw with Blackpool that good? He also claimed in the article that 'we have good players and we prepare properly'. Interesting that, seeing as we keep losing and the longer we have to prepare the worse we are (the Dubai trip worked a treat!). In his radio interviews and in press conferences, he never gets asked tricky questions. Those 'fans' on the Radio Lancs phone in were toothless. It enables him to put this smarmy positive spin on a situation that is wholly negative. It all strikes me as incredibly patronising to the fans. Maybe they think that if you just gloss over the cracks (caverns), they don't exist. Maybe those silly footy fans won't notice! As fans, we are clearly being ignored. I can't remember such unanimous condemnation for a manager. There was debate about Ince, everyone just knows Kean is inept. Venky's/Kean, please show the fans some respect and be honest. You are not convincing anyone. Also, the mentioning of 'recommending Myles Anderson last summer' is very fishy. Makes you think that Kean and Anderson might have known each other a while.

[ABBEY]

I wish him and the players would just stfu and stop their trash/smack talk when there doing so crap...make themseves look tits.

[Ferrit]

"I actually recommended him earlier in the season and he came down here for a few weeks and did really well.

Why didn't we sign him then? Not good enough anyone?

[John]

This is infuriating! These Kean interviews are horrible! I constantly have this feeling that the owners/Anderson and their puppet are trying to deceive the fans. I get the feeling we are constantly being lied to. I bet they knew they wanted Kean from the start and when they said he was in temporary charge and that they were looking for a big name manager, it was all a lie to prevent a fan backlash. Its almost as if they believed they knew better than us and thought Steve would come good and that we would all warm to him. They are patently stupid and Kean is a ridiculous excuse for a manager. He tries to deceive us week in week out with his damn interviews. They are cringeworthy! 'The lads are training well', 'we have good players', 'we are hoping for a top half finish'. It is all bullpoo! He uses media outlets that like him to put a positive spin on things in the media. The perfect example was this morning...the article in the LET was nausea inducing. He said, 'I think the decision against us in the last minute at Fulham was a bit of a turning point'. Turning point to what? It was proceeded by an atrocious 45mins against Blackpool! He also thinks that the pressure brings out the best in the players 'When there is massive responsibility on the lads to get something to make sure we are moving in the right direction, sometimes that gives an edge and you get performances like that'. Really Steven, was the 2-2 draw with Blackpool that good? He also claimed in the article that 'we have good players and we prepare properly'. Interesting that, seeing as we keep losing and the longer we have to prepare the worse we are (the Dubai trip worked a treat!). In his radio interviews and in press conferences, he never gets asked tricky questions. Those 'fans' on the Radio Lancs phone in were toothless. It enables him to put this smarmy positive spin on a situation that is wholly negative. It all strikes me as incredibly patronising to the fans. Maybe they think that if you just gloss over the cracks (caverns), they don't exist. Maybe those silly footy fans won't notice! As fans, we are clearly being ignored. I can't remember such unanimous condemnation for a manager. There was debate about Ince, everyone just knows Kean is inept. Venky's/Kean, please show the fans some respect and be honest. You are not convincing anyone. Also, the mentioning of 'recommending Myles Anderson last summer' is very fishy. Makes you think that Kean and Anderson might have known each other a while.

I am starting to see through him and in my view he is talking a lot of rubbish most of the time. Generic cliches/phrases are used all too often like 'we have good players and we prepare properly', 'I have trust in my staff'.

It is very frustrating to watch/hear as he is overly positive, never frank about the situation and puts a spin on everything to suit himself.

[Roversider]

Crikey, there is a surfeit of bile and bitterness being posted on here. Nice to see such well laid out, unemotional arguments against our manager.

Methinks wthere are too many closed minds .....

[Mattyblue]

On what grounds do you have faith in the man then Roversider?

[Athlete]

utter bullshit again from Kean the puppet

[Roversider]

On what grounds do you have faith in the man then Roversider?

At the moment I don't think we have a choice but I do think that the players haven't given up the fight yet. On that basis I intend to stick by him until the season closes. We can judge after that.

The reality is that it is very, very difficult for a first team coach to step up to manager. Ray Harford was an outstanding coach and he struggled but you never heard any players coming out in later years to berate him. It is a different world, the coach exists to get the best out of the players at the club, the manager isn't in that cosy world and has to be ruthless. Can Kean make the transition? I hope so and I am willing to stick with him until the season is over. He has brought the best out of David Hoillet which is something the previous manager failed to do. Maybe his attempts to change the style of play have been too ambitious but how many fans moaned about Sam's tactics? For the record I wanted Sam to stay but I suspect that his stubborn streak (ask Phil Gartside and Mike Ashley) to be his own man may have been the main contribution to his departure, that and a 7-1 hiding at United. Anyway I can't feel sorry for him as he got another bumper pay-off.

Has Kean been naive in his comments? I think the answer is yes to that but in his defence he does speak to the press more than Sam. I believe that his live session at Radio Lancashire was something that hadn't happened with a Rovers manager for a long time.

Anyway, I don't think he's the Messiah or Satan. My problem is that there are too many people who will damn him no matter what he does. No doubt my comments will raise a few hackles as well, guess I am a little more patient and hopeful than most.

[Mattyblue]

I'm hopeful, we have to be. He fails this season and christ knows what will happen to this football club.

[Roversider]

I'm hopeful, we have to be. He fails this season and christ knows what will happen to this football club.

If he fails (by that I assume you mean relegation) then the Rovers will continue. Maybe at a lower level but I was brought up watching the Rovers scuffling about in the lower reaches with average crowds of 7-8,000. I am desperate for them to stay up but the main thing is that the club survives, what division they are in is secondary to me.

I remain hopeful and positive, the message boards at a lot of other clubs are also filled with doom and gloom, what we need is for at least three other clubs to be correct in their misery.

[Mattyblue]

My first season at Ewood saw us almost relegated to the third divison, been there and done that.

I am absolutely furious that we are even in the mix for relegation this season- completely unnecessary.

[Gav]

I was brought up watching the Rovers scuffling about in the lower reaches with average crowds of 7-8,000. I am desperate for them to stay up but the main thing is that the club survives, what division they are in is secondary to me.

:tu:

Spot on.

[Roversider]

My first season at Ewood saw us almost relegated to the third divison, been there and done that.

I am absolutely furious that we are even in the mix for relegation this season- completely unnecessary.

My only thought on that is that there at least eight clubs who have supporters who could say the same. This season is unbelievable in how close so many clubs are, usually at least two clubs are adrift by now.

By the way I was there when we nearly went down to the fourth, however winning the Tird in 1975 felt as important to me at the time as some of the trophies we have won since. Still nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

[Mattyblue]

Taking 10000 to away games in the 'owden days', swaying on terraces, cheap as chips etc etc, great back then.

But why get misty eyed about it now? Tickets more expensive than what we pay at Ewood most weeks, watching absolute gash players (still on money we could only dream of earning), in empty (mainly all seater) stadiums, whilst prices would rocket and crowds would plummet at Ewood for the vastly inferior football.

Ask Sheffield Wednesday, Charlton et al how they are enjoying it, we must stay up.

[broadsword]

Danny Mayfield? Is that the Mayfield who comes on here?!

[sambo]

:tu:

Spot on.

You have made various comments about how you won't mind us going down, but does getting tubbed by Burnley every time we play them sound good to you? Because whilst we will be an average Championship team at best, they'll be pretty good, and that lovely 32 year record will be gone. I say this, because I've seen plenty of anti-Burnley posts from yourself and know you share my disdain for them!

[47er]

Agree.

Kean really does need a reality check - he is deluded talking as if we are not in a fight for our lives.

If you watch the Youtube video posted earlier, right at the end, he's asked if he is still enjoying being a manager, his body language and reply is a squirming/fake "very much so" IMO.

Looks very nervous in that interview. Body language doesn't support his confidence. Licks his lips a lot at the start.

I've seen It written but I can't recall the specifics. They want Venkey's to fail because they think they will leave and give up. The point is if they leave we WILL BE IN THE DEEP @#/?. Just read between the lines on some of these posts.

To the best of my recollection, nobody has ever written that.

If he fails (by that I assume you mean relegation) then the Rovers will continue. Maybe at a lower level but I was brought up watching the Rovers scuffling about in the lower reaches with average crowds of 7-8,000. I am desperate for them to stay up but the main thing is that the club survives, what division they are in is secondary to me.

In that case you (and Gav) have nothing to worry about at all. Its only those of us who want to stay in the Premier League who should be concerned.

[jim mk2]

:tu:

Spot on.

Gav, why was the post spot on ? It was nonsense !

There are still people who haven't grasped the seriousness of our plight and the consequences of relegation.

And none of this would have happened but for the imbeciles in Pune. The club is being slowly but surely wrecked by incompetant people.

Why can't you see it ?

[vintageadidas]

Kean must now have his way of working implemented into the squad! The next two games are pivotal in what we can expect for the rest of the season, because he isn't going anywhere for the next 8 games! He has had plenty of time to get his way of working over including large gaps between games.

I don't fully blame him for our position, I blame the people who informed our new and nieve owners that we should sack an experienced manager with a proven track record of keeping teams in the premier league. There is not much more that can be said to be honest, get behind the lads and buckle your seatbelt for what it going to be a bumpy 8 games!

COYB

[Ray P]

Gav, why was the post spot on ? It was nonsense !

There are still people who haven't grasped the seriousness of our plight and the consequences of relegation.

And none of this would have happened but for the imbeciles in Pune. The club is being slowly but surely wrecked by incompetant people.

Why can't you see it ?

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Fiddling whilst Rome burns come to mind. We are 'managed' by a second rate coach totally out of his depth who talks in cliches, spouting a party line. We are 'owned' by amateurs who are too bloody minded to admit their litany of mistakes in all aspects of managing the club. Venkys do not deserve to be associated with our great club. We need to get back to local values and expectations. It is totally unrealistic to run a club from the other side of the world, particularly when those in charge locally appear so totally out of touch with what this great club is all about. An emotional slant perhaps but like many others I am seriously hurting.

[sentient]

You have made various comments about how you won't mind us going down, but does getting tubbed by Burnley every time we play them sound good to you? Because whilst we will be an average Championship team at best, they'll be pretty good, and that lovely 32 year record will be gone. I say this, because I've seen plenty of anti-Burnley posts from yourself and know you share my disdain for them!

GAV is a knob. He knows it and I bet secretly even he wishes he never said any of the stuff he said. Bet he doesn't stand outside BBE and announce his love for the current situ. COCK ... mmm thats a word with resonance.

[modes98]

Yes they were in contracts, Pederson excepted, also previously, consultations between owners and club were done through the chairman and board not the manager flying all over the place when he should be looking after his players,

Hughes had three pro license coaches with him, Sam had two, Kean has none!!

Has anyone come out to deny the story in the press? Are venky's that naive and stupid?

If they had bothered to use JW, an experienced wise head, to help them through this first season we wouldn't be here now looking into the abyss. Bottom of the form table with 2 points from our last 6 games, games we should have got things from if we had a hope of staying up.

Right so who's the biggest ego/idiot that thinks he can do it all on his own. He doesn't want to risk bringing in someone with knowledge because it'll show up how rubbish he really is. If it takes Brunskill to determine the right tactics and Samba to motivate then what the hell is Kean there to do? Especially when his subs are down right awful.

Any manager worth their salt would want highly skilled people around them to bounce ideas off and to help them. Kean is way out of his league, although sadly we might be at his level very soon.

Kean must now have his way of working implemented into the squad!

I don't fully blame him for our position

That's the problem.

He didn't have to take the job. Like The rest of Sam's team he could have left but Mr Anderson had bigger plans for him.

[Mayfield]

Danny Mayfield? Is that the Mayfield who comes on here?!

Yes, long time reader but not a big writer on these threads, how do I come into this?

[Paul]

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Yes, long time reader but not a big writer on these threads, how do I come into this?<br />

You made a comment on the YouTube video of what you would like to do to SK.

[Kamy100]

Steve Kean from yesterday's press conference:

"We're all fairly comfortable with the way things are progressing but I know we have to get the points... and quickly.

"Obviously, we spoke about where we are in the table, we'd like to be higher.

"But relegation was not discussed, not at all."

These are quite concerning quotes to be honest. What exactly are the owners comfortable about regarding the current situation? Why does he have to shoot off to India every five minutes? And the owners are really in cloud cuckoo land if they had Kean out in India and did not discuss relegation at all.