[Archived] Steve Kean

[Kelbo]

Kean had his qualifications before the Pro License and so doens't need them because of his experience in the game. Quite a few Prem managers don't have one.

Kean was the "manager" at Fulham because Coleman didn't have the qualifications needed.

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I dont think this is correct, the criteria is as I am lead to believe is that if you have Managed for ten years prior to The Pro License then you dont need one, Sam had one though, Sparky, Neil MacDonald and all the other managers in the Prem.

I agree paper isnt the bee all and end all but those are the laws.

[Miker]

Kean OUT! It was only one match - I love the fickleness on here! Ohh kean is crap bla bla bla, we DRAW a game and most on here want to have his babies

I don't. I think drawing Arsenal is a huge boost to the squad, and a much needed one at that, but we're still at the bottom of the form table and we're still in big trouble. All that Kean has achieved on Saturday was instill some self-belief in the squad and give hope to the fans, so that I thank him for. I still want him out by the end of the season though. I simply don't believe he has what it takes to be a successful manager long-term, which is what we need.

[BangkokRover]

Just watching sky, fans are chanting 'Neil Warnock's blue and white army', what if ? Hmmm

Colin plays exactly the same type of football as BFS. He is also a manager who is not well liked by most people. Certainly like.BFS he is a great manager if you are on a tight budget.

[BangkokRover]

I don't. I think drawing Arsenal is a huge boost to the squad, and a much needed one at that, but we're still at the bottom of the form table and we're still in big trouble. All that Kean has achieved on Saturday was instill some self-belief in the squad and give hope to the fans, so that I thank him for. I still want him out by the end of the season though. I simply don't believe he has what it takes to be a successful manager long-term, which is what we need.

The long term is my worry as well. I know good managers are not cheap and probably difficult to attract to ewood. But we need someone who can take this club by the scruff of the neck and drag it up the league. MoN is the example i can think off the.top of my head. But he will not be cheap and will expect to.he backed with millions by the board.

Maybe its time to look aboard and reinvent the way Rovers play and are presented to the media. Of course appointing a strong manager would mean the owners have to take a back seat. But i doubt anyone believes that is a bad thing.

[otto man]

Not at all...I've not been shouting for him to be dumped..I still think he might have something about him but unless he keeps us up he's unlikely to be allowed to prove it one way or the other and quite right too. You seem to assume everyone wants him gone- I don't believe that's necessarily the case, rather a core group of agitators go on and on about it ad nauseum and basically bully those who are prepared to wait & see how it plays out.

Regarding Mercerman..I've suggested previously what several posters are alluding to.Namely, that it's hard to believe he's a Rover,such is the depth and consistency of his negativity. This badges nonsense is just the latest in a long,long line of s**t-stirring....

+1 Agreed

[Mattyblue]

I'd like to believe Mercerman is a Rover, but after his initial posts were along the lines of 'Burnley fans are more passionate' ( ) I have found it a challenge...

[Gav]

Yeti-Dog, stalking and spouting more shyte about me yet again. You are rather sad.

It's a pity that this MB wasn't up and running during Kenny's successful reign. I think that you would have seen a much different tone from many on here including myself.

So you're saying we'd have to go back to Kennys reign to have positive tones on this site?

Did you forget about promotion to the premeirship, League cup win over Spurs, several European adventures, hammering burnley etc etc

I'd like to believe Mercerman is a Rover, but after his initial posts were along the lines of 'Burnley fans are more passionate' ( ) I have found it a challenge...

Saw that myself Matty

[Mercer]

So you're saying we'd have to go back to Kennys reign to have positive tones on this site?

Did you forget about promotion to the premeirship, League cup win over Spurs, several European adventures, hammering burnley etc etc

Certainly hadn't forgot ! However, chose the Kenny reign because we had 3 years of sustained excitement and success in the PL which was novel and breathtaking after relatively 25 years in the wilderness.

As for the passion of Rovers' supporters, I am not the only one who has mentioned it on this site. Many said how flat it was against Blackpool (until we scored) and at many clubs, at half time, there would have been baying mobs, figuratively speaking, trying to lynch Kean. Without a doubt, the travelling Rovers' support is, IMO, far more vocal and passionate than home games where I guess, there is a bigger proportion of the more 'sedate' support than at a lot of other clubs. I am fortunate to have been on many grounds, not just when Rovers have been playing, and have found the atmosphere and passion a bit special at places like Celtic, Rangers, Newcastle, West Ham, Stoke, Leeds and at times, yes, even Burnley. Yes, there have been special times at Ewood, like the 2-1 cup replay against Burnley, however, IMO, it is not as sustained as other clubs. That is all I am trying to say and I do hope that it clears-up any doubt about me being a Rover.

[Mattyblue]

Totally disagree Mercer, I go to most away games and Ewood has one of the better atmospheres. Anfield, OT, Emirates, Stamford Bridge, DW, Reebok, Goodison, St James Park (yes, really!)and ESPECIALLY t'Turf have poor atmospheres.

Now if you was a Dingle (or spend a lot of time with Dingles- as you readily admit), you would beleive that Ewood is 'Deadwood', a morgue, plastic fans yada yada yada, though that is total b*llocks.

[gumboots]

Totally disagree Mercer, I go to most away games and Ewood has one of the better atmospheres. Anfield, OT, Emirates, Stamford Bridge, DW, Reebok, Goodison, St James Park (yes, really!)and ESPECIALLY t'Turf have poor atmospheres.

Now if you was a Dingle (or spend a lot of time with Dingles- as you readily admit), you would beleive that Ewood is 'Deadwood', a morgue, plastic fans yada yada yada, though that is total b*llocks.

I took 2 Burnley fans to a recent Rovers match (well, you have to try to educate them and they are quite tame)and they were very impressed with the atmosphere.

[Kelbo]

I took 2 Burnley fans to a recent Rovers match (well, you have to try to educate them and they are quite tame)and they were very impressed with the atmosphere.

I do think it depends on the game and the performance, the West ham game at Ewood after Sams sacking was like a morgue

and probably the worst atmosphere I have ever known at Rovers, been on Turf Moor when they were rocking under Coyle and the atmosphere was tremendous and vice versa, too difficult to call, really depends on the game.

[Gav]

Yes, there have been special times at Ewood, like the 2-1 cup replay against Burnley, however, IMO, it is not as sustained as other clubs. That is all I am trying to say and I do hope that it clears-up any doubt about me being a Rover.

Yeah right!

Which end were you in for the 2-1 cup replay

How about the 5-0 hammering on April fools day or 3-2 game last season?

Your credibility is shot mercerman.

I challenge anyone to find a positive comment made by mercerman concerning Blackburn Rovers on any thread before today.

Now if you was a Dingle (or spend a lot of time with Dingles- as you readily admit), you would beleive that Ewood is 'Deadwood', a morgue, plastic fans yada yada yada, though that is total b*llocks.

Don't forget if burnley are ever in the same league as us they'd get better support

Sorry for taking this off thread, I'll waste not more time on our burnley friend who has an unusual interest in Blackburn Rovers history

[ada2020]

Certainly hadn't forgot ! However, chose the Kenny reign because we had 3 years of sustained excitement and success in the PL which was novel and breathtaking after relatively 25 years in the wilderness.

As for the passion of Rovers' supporters, I am not the only one who has mentioned it on this site. Many said how flat it was against Blackpool (until we scored) and at many clubs, at half time, there would have been baying mobs, figuratively speaking, trying to lynch Kean. Without a doubt, the travelling Rovers' support is, IMO, far more vocal and passionate than home games where I guess, there is a bigger proportion of the more 'sedate' support than at a lot of other clubs. I am fortunate to have been on many grounds, not just when Rovers have been playing, and have found the atmosphere and passion a bit special at places like Celtic, Rangers, Newcastle, West Ham, Stoke, Leeds and at times, yes, even Burnley. Yes, there have been special times at Ewood, like the 2-1 cup replay against Burnley, however, IMO, it is not as sustained as other clubs. That is all I am trying to say and I do hope that it clears-up any doubt about me being a Rover.

OUTED!!!!!!!!!!

MERCER is a dingle!!!!!!

MERCER is a dingle!!!!!!

[otto man]

Yeah right!

Which end were you in for the 2-1 cup replay

How about the 5-0 hammering on April fools day or 3-2 game last season?

Your credibility is shot mercerman.

I challenge anyone to find a positive comment made by mercerman concerning Blackburn Rovers on any thread before today.

Don't forget if burnley are ever in the same league as us they'd get better support

Sorry for taking this off thread, I'll waste not more time on our burnley friend who has an unusual interest in Blackburn Rovers history

See Kelbo it's not just me that thinks he's agent 006(fingers) Code name; Dingle.

[Mercer]

Yeah right!

I challenge anyone to find a positive comment made by mercerman concerning Blackburn Rovers on any thread before today.

A great result and performance.

Couldn't fault the spirit or commitment.

Need to ensure that we beat Brum now.

Nzonzi will be a miss though.

How ironic that Blackpool 2nd half and yesterday mirrored Sam's approach.

Simple question, why have we changed the manager if 'Sam's way' is the evident way forward ?!?!

Gav, you didn't need to look far.

Look, if it makes you happy to think that I am a Dingle then fine. If I actually was then after almost 600 posts I would be a sad case.

Can you just give the personal stuff a rest now as I am sure that you have had your laugh.

[yoda]

Gav, you didn't need to look far.

Look, if it makes you happy to think that I am a Dingle then fine. If I actually was then after almost 600 posts I would be a sad case.

Can you just give the personal stuff a rest now as I am sure that you have had your laugh.

being a sad case goes hand in hand with being a dingle,

you have over looked far to many games with a good atmosphere to be a Rovers supporter,

are NASA still using the turd for training?

[Gav]

Gav, you didn't need to look far.

Look, if it makes you happy to think that I am a Dingle then fine. If I actually was then after almost 600 posts I would be a sad case.

Can you just give the personal stuff a rest now as I am sure that you have had your laugh.

You're now on the ignore list Mercerman, you should have been put on there after your opening posts that claimed burnley are better than Blackburn etc etc, I wasn't the only one to notice your affiliation to burnley, and your constant mischief making ever since, all this after your return from being banned last time around.

I can handle 47er, TGM and others that irritate me on most subjects, because I believe theyre genuine Rovers fans and respect their views, but In my opinion, and plenty of others, youre mischief making, so for that reason youre on the ignore list.

If Im wrong Ill be the first to apologies by the way.

[Jimmy612]

What a ridiculous discussion. Generally I think Mercermans comments on this MB are far better, and make much more sense than most of the people making out he is a dingle, Mattyblue being a level par.

Back on to SK...

Thought he got his formation (and team) right on Saturday. 4-5-1 is what we are good at, and what we should stick with against Brum.

I didnt think much of his decision when he took off RSC and replaced him with Roberts. He had played well in the second half with a few nice touches and glimpses of good ball retention. Roberts on the other hand can't trap a wet sandbag, can't head the ball, and is generally useless in a lone striker role.

[Gav]

Back on to SK...

Thought he got his formation (and team) right on Saturday. 4-5-1 is what we are good at, and what we should stick with against Brum.

I didnt think much of his decision when he took off RSC and replaced him with Roberts. He had played well in the second half with a few nice touches and glimpses of good ball retention. Roberts on the other hand can't trap a wet sandbag, can't head the ball, and is generally useless in a lone striker role.

Its hard work playing the loan striker role, especially for RSC who has been blighted by injury over the past 2 seasons. Kean bringing Roberst on made perfect sense to me, fresh legs and full of running, just what we needed at that stage of the game.

[gumboots]

Its hard work playing the loan striker role, especially for RSC who has been blighted by injury over the past 2 seasons. Kean bringing Roberst on made perfect sense to me, fresh legs and full of running, just what we needed at that stage of the game.

I know he's on loan but the word here is lone, as in alone meaning on your own. Sorry, lunchtime has just started and I'm still in teacher mode.

[Gav]

I know he's on loan but the word here is lone, as in alone meaning on your own. Sorry, lunchtime has just started and I'm still in teacher mode.

Point taken, don't look to close you'll have a field day gumboots

[onlyonejackwalker]

What a ridiculous discussion. Generally I think Mercermans comments on this MB are far better, and make much more sense than most of the people making out he is a dingle, Mattyblue being a level par.

Back on to SK...

Thought he got his formation (and team) right on Saturday. 4-5-1 is what we are good at, and what we should stick with against Brum.

I didnt think much of his decision when he took off RSC and replaced him with Roberts. He had played well in the second half with a few nice touches and glimpses of good ball retention. Roberts on the other hand can't trap a wet sandbag, can't head the ball, and is generally useless in a lone striker role.

Fully agree. Ridiculous discussion. I am new here, you could all be Burnley fans for all I know and if the accused is a Burnley fan, then 600 posts later suggests he is very committed if he is!

Of course we should stick with 4-5-1 against Birmingham. If we have learnt one thing, it is that 2 upfront has not worked for us and is a contributory reason why we have struggled to date under SK. And yes, RSC remains our best striker.

[booth]

I don't think we should stick with 4-5-1 against Birmingham, it's a totally different match to the Arsenal game. For one, Arsenal are a far better team, and two we NEED to win this one. Unless of course it's a 4-5-1 that's easily adaptable to 4-3-3.

Remember we didn't actually have too many attempts on goal in the Arsenal game. That cannot happen against Birmingham.

[Roversider]

Nice to see Salgado has come out in support of Steve Kean. I am hopeful that we get a good result against Birmingham and continue to build the confidence of the team. I am sad that we have lost N'Zonzi because it doesn't help Kean when he is short of selection options in mdifield. Still, Jermaine Jones is looking better, he needs time like every other player to come up to speed with the Premiership and there were good signs against Arsenal. Now under which management was he brought in?

Let's look forward to a more positive end to the season, more experience of and a more balanced view of OUR manager.

[onlyonejackwalker]

Nice to see Salgado has come out in support of Steve Kean. I am hopeful that we get a good result against Birmingham and continue to build the confidence of the team. I am sad that we have lost N'Zonzi because it doesn't help Kean when he is short of selection options in mdifield. Still, Jermaine Jones is looking better, he needs time like every other player to come up to speed with the Premiership and there were good signs against Arsenal. Now under which management was he brought in?

Let's look forward to a more positive end to the season, more experience of and a more balanced view of OUR manager.

What do you expect players to say? Salgado is too professional to speak the truth and little sound-bites presented for media consumption are purely that...sound-bites, PR and media spin.

JJ was brought in under Kean. The reason for this is Kean had money to spend.

I agree a more positive end to the season would be pleasing.

In order to provide balance when considering the new manager the following may help;

13 points from 14 games and the 42 points available.

10 of the 14 games against teams below us in the table at that time.

3 clean sheets during that period.

3 points only gleaned from 24 available against West Ham at home, Stoke, at home, Newcastle at home, Blackpool at home, plus Fulham, Villa, Wigan and Sunderland away.

3 of the 7 home games under Kean we have failed to score.

In 7 home games we have scored 8 goals.

Unconvincing home and away wins against West Brom.

A win against an 'on strike' Liverpool.

Good performance against Tottenham, deserving of at least a draw and on a different day we win.

Unfortunate at Fulham at the end, albeit conceding three. Worthy of a draw.

Poor refereeing at home to Blackpool with the penalty and subsequent great comeback. Poor result nevertheless in our circumstances.

Excellent performance last time out at Arsenal, fully deserving the draw.

Last victory January 23rd at home to West Brom.

Currently 2 points above relegation in 14th place on 34 points.

5 million waxed.

If's, buts and maybes aside, the only thing that matters is 13 points from 14 games and the 42 points available.

Must do better.