[Archived] Steve Kean

[cruz]

It's funny how the Liverpool win was all down to how poor they were and nothing about how we STOPPED THEM PLAYING and comletely blitzed them. We have been pretty poor since though.

[den]

It's funny how the Liverpool win was all down to how poor they were and nothing about how we STOPPED THEM PLAYING and comletely blitzed them. We have been pretty poor since though.

You have to be honest about these things Cruz. At that time Liverpool were playing poorly, Torres wasn't interested and they had indeed lost 6 away games [at Man City, Man United, Everton, Stoke City, Tottenham and N'castle - which was their last away game before us]. In fact, when we played them in January, Liverpool had won just one away game all season.

Rovers played exceptionally well against Liverpool, but as with the Arsenal game, you have to look at both sides.

Oh - and Rovers were above Liverpool in the table at that point.

[onlyonejackwalker]

It's funny how the Liverpool win was all down to how poor they were and nothing about how we STOPPED THEM PLAYING and comletely blitzed them. We have been pretty poor since though.

We did play well in that game and deserved the win, but their results ever since have demonstrated that they were in turmoil at that time under Hodgson and it is fair to say we played them at exactly the right time.

I think 'blitzed them' is a little creative. Gerard missed a penalty and Torres a sitter in front of the Blackburn End so it could easily have finished differently. But as I say the win was deserved in that fixture.

[Amo]

It's funny how the Liverpool win was all down to how poor they were and nothing about how we STOPPED THEM PLAYING and comletely blitzed them. We have been pretty poor since though.

It was always a stupid argument.

Liverpool are still a better side than us.

And if Kean was *that* clueless, we wouldn't have won so emphatically anyway.

[den]

It was always a stupid argument.

Liverpool are still a better side than us.

They weren't then Topman.

[Amo]

They weren't then Topman.

Really?

Man for man you don't think Liverpool had a better side?

And isn't Hodgson a far more capable manager than Steve Kean?

[den]

Really?

Man for man you don't think Liverpool had a better side?

And isn't Hodgson a far more capable manager than Steve Kean?

Aren't you listening? I said, at the time we played them, they weren't a better team than us. They were below us in the league, having lost 6 away games and winning just one.

[Mattyblue]

Football is about form and confidence, Northampton, Blackpool etc all beat a LFC side that was all over the place and not playing for their manager.

It was a great performance that night, but looking back not suprising that we raced into a big lead.

[gumboots]

What do you expect players to say? Salgado is too professional to speak the truth and little sound-bites presented for media consumption are purely that...sound-bites, PR and media spin.

JJ was brought in under Kean. The reason for this is Kean had money to spend.

I agree a more positive end to the season would be pleasing.

In order to provide balance when considering the new manager the following may help;

13 points from 14 games and the 42 points available.

10 of the 14 games against teams below us in the table at that time.

3 clean sheets during that period.

3 points only gleaned from 24 available against West Ham at home, Stoke, at home, Newcastle at home, Blackpool at home, plus Fulham, Villa, Wigan and Sunderland away.

3 of the 7 home games under Kean we have failed to score.

In 7 home games we have scored 8 goals.

Unconvincing home and away wins against West Brom.

A win against an 'on strike' Liverpool.

Good performance against Tottenham, deserving of at least a draw and on a different day we win.

Unfortunate at Fulham at the end, albeit conceding three. Worthy of a draw.

Poor refereeing at home to Blackpool with the penalty and subsequent great comeback. Poor result nevertheless in our circumstances.

Excellent performance last time out at Arsenal, fully deserving the draw.

Last victory January 23rd at home to West Brom.

Currently 2 points above relegation in 14th place on 34 points.

5 million waxed.

If's, buts and maybes aside, the only thing that matters is 13 points from 14 games and the 42 points available.

Must do better.

Perhaps but what about private conversations? There are several on here who have spoken to players in situations where it is not sound-bites or reassurance from players to fans who want to hear certain things, and they are telling the same story - the players like playing for Kean, not because they are being paid more or whatever, but because they are genuinely behind him at the moment. There was huge upheaval at Rovers; there still is doubt and uncertainty that comes from the upheaval and the position we find ourselves in, and nobody watching is singing Kean's praises but he has not lost the dressing room. They are generally on his side and are pulling together. Whether he's the manager they'd want given any choice is a different matter but they are definitely not against him at this time.

[Amo]

Aren't you listening? I said, at the time we played them, they weren't a better team than us. They were below us in the league, having lost 6 away games and winning just one.

They were on level points, actually (with two games in hand).

And surely it was the perfect time to place us?

[onlyonejackwalker]

They were on level points, actually (with two games in hand).

And surely it was the perfect time to place us?

Blackpool did the double over Liverpool this season. I think Wolves won at Anfield. These type of results clearly indicate Liverpool were all over the place, but if that does not convince you then the sacking of their then manager may suggest things were not going entirely to plan from their point of view.

It was a good time to play Liverpool when we beat them 3-1. They were shocking and defensively...a car crash waiting to happen.

[Amo]

Blackpool did the double over Liverpool this season. I think Wolves won at Anfield. These type of results clearly indicate Liverpool were all over the place, but if that does not convince you then the sacking of their then manager may suggest things were not going entirely to plan from their point of view.

It was a good time to play Liverpool when we beat them 3-1. They were shocking and defensively...a car crash waiting to happen.

But don't all those teams have proper football managers in charge and not some clueless rookie?

[BPF]

Seems as though we still have posters basing their views on the last match. Some things never change.

That being said, let's hope to build on this with a result against big club. If we do stay up, i'll be elated, it is a pity we'll continue without a manager into the new season though.

[rovers_rob]

Seems as though we still have posters basing their views on the last match. Some things never change.

That being said, let's hope to build on this with a result against big club. If we do stay up, i'll be elated, it is a pity we'll continue without a manager into the new season though.

Believe it or not some people base their opinions on what they see on the pitch and not what you post on this messageboard.

[Kelbo]

Believe it or not some people base their opinions on what they see on the pitch and not what you post on this messageboard.

Well I certainly base my opinions on what I see on the pitch and Saturday apart, Kean has set up the system wrong, gives the players nothing from the touchline, unlike other managers,finally he is tactically inept more designed to please the owners than to pick up points, please remember when you speak about what we see on the pitch, when did we last win a game? how many points have we collected under Kean and finally, what is our position in the league table?

[47er]

Nice to see Salgado has come out in support of Steve Kean. I am hopeful that we get a good result against Birmingham and continue to build the confidence of the team. I am sad that we have lost N'Zonzi because it doesn't help Kean when he is short of selection options in mdifield. Still, Jermaine Jones is looking better, he needs time like every other player to come up to speed with the Premiership and there were good signs against Arsenal. Now under which management was he brought in?

Let's look forward to a more positive end to the season, more experience of and a more balanced view of OUR manager.

J Jones was brought in under Kean's management but Sam was sacked before the transfer window! You can hardly point to Sam's failings if he had no opportunity to add to his squad. A more balanced view needed.

[Steve Moss]

What a ridiculous discussion. Generally I think Mercermans comments on this MB are far better, and make much more sense than most of the people making out he is a dingle,. . .

I've seen nothing wrong in Mercerman's posts. He might get excitable from time to time, but then so do I and 95% of this board.

And I still don't get the dingle stuff. Face it, you guys live about 10 miles apart. Your Lancastrian DNA is about as identical as it gets.

[otto man]

I've seen nothing wrong in Mercerman's posts. He might get excitable from time to time, but then so do I and 95% of this board.

And I still don't get the dingle stuff. Face it, you guys live about 10 miles apart. Your Lancastrian DNA is about as identical as it gets.

Steve.You mentioned you had a gazillion guns and just as much ammo.....Well you just might need em after that comment!

[gumboots]

I've seen nothing wrong in Mercerman's posts. He might get excitable from time to time, but then so do I and 95% of this board.

And I still don't get the dingle stuff. Face it, you guys live about 10 miles apart. Your Lancastrian DNA is about as identical as it gets.

Actually most Dingles don't share their DNA with anyone outside their immediate family

[Mattyblue]

We are Lancastrian, they are Yorkshire hill dwellers...

[Stuart]

I can't believe that things have sunk so low that we a re-writing what was a fantastic result and performance against Liverpool as almost complete luck.

Certainly not how I remember the evening.

I despair at times.

[Mattyblue]

We played superbly for an hour, but to say it wasn't a Liverpool team in crisis would be wrong.

[Athlete]

We played superbly for an hour, but to say it wasn't a Liverpool team in crisis would be wrong.

It was a Liverpool side playing to get Hodgson sacked just like Rovers did with Ince at Wigan !

[imy9]

Ok...missed that part, only Rovers fans can think of excuses for the OTHER team losing and trying to take away something from our team. Have we not played badly enough in other matches without downplaying our best results! Lol.

[Mattyblue]

Not at all.

We beat Arsenal at the end of last season, was it a good perfomrance and result? Too right, did I get carried away? no, because it was against an Arsenal team who had took their foot off the pedal.