[Archived] Steve Kean

[Majiball]

Can you suggest another way of suriving with the poor squad Sam had at his disposal ? Playing attractive football with this set of players in nigh-on impossible as Kean has rapidly found out so please enlighten me because you're obviously in the wrong job.

Sam himself showed it was possible with our finish to last season. But he reverted back to type this year at the start dropping or moving players that had done well previously in the run.

Keans mistake was trying to change it all over night to a gung ho style, we cannot play that way. But just like Coyle down the road has done with Notlob, gradually changed the style over time to something more akin to last season.

[Kelbo]

We've been here before children

Go and enjoy the sun, it surely won't last

Fortunately neither will Kean

[Steve Moss]

I don't think bringing in Givet for Olsson and pushing him into midfield would have made much of a difference yesterday.

And what has Kalinic done lately?

Bringing in Givet would have allowed Olssen to move up. We have always been more threatening with Hoillet and Olssen playing up. So I disagree with your opinion.

Kalinic hasn't done diddly lately as we have a poor manager who won't let him do anything. Whether Kalinic would have changed anything can't be known.

What I do know is that when your back is against the wall you do not discard tools which may prove useful. Which is what Kean appears to be doing with both Givet and Kalinic. If the speculative reasons stated here and elsewhere are any indication as to why, then if speaks VERY poorly of Kean.

You seem to be loving all of this.

I don't think Nicko is loving this. He does seem entrenched with Kean, which is surprising. Football is about results, not good pressers.

What makes Rovers THAT different?

Every other team has a manager with a proven track record. We have a complete novice whose track record, such as it is, stinks.

If I owned the club, I would immediately replace Kean with someone who knows what they are doing in the PL, with a complete backroom staff. Sign them up for the balance of this year and next, regardless of league. With luck, he'd get the formation and starters sorted out, and restore some confidence and hope with the fans. And if we aren't lucky, we'll at least have a a head start on preparing for next year's promotion run.

[Majiball]

The kids will save us.

[Parsonblue]

The owners wanted to replace Sam. They liked the look of Kean.

They will have to accept the consequences of that big decision in six games time.

I understand their thinking for sacking Sam - it is THEIR club and THEIR money and they have the right to decide who spends it.

If you go down it will be THEIR funeral and they will have to pay THEIR expenses.

So it's a big sweat for all concerned. But to pretend everything was wonderful before the new owners came in is absolute balls.

I don't think that anyone is pretending that everything was fine before the new owners came in. However, it is a fact that Allardyce and Williams were managing a difficult situation exceptionally well.

When you say the owners came in and didn't fancy Sam but liked Kean - I would ask how could they form any opinion of either man in terms of Premier League management? Mrs. Desai had never seen a live game and the brothers Grimm had seen very little. Did any of them know what it takes to keep a club in the Premier League? Of course not. None of the family knew enough about the club or the game to make a rational decision based on hard evidence. The decision was a taken on the whim of women whose knowledge of the game could be written on the back of a stamp.

I totally agree that it's now THEIR club. It is no longer the club I have supported since the start of the 1960s. It is run and controlled from another continent by people who have no feeling for the club or town of Blackburn. However, WE do have the right to continue to express our concern about the incompetence of the ownership and the incompetence of the team management. Ultimately, it's all we can do.

[nicko]

I don't think that anyone is pretending that everything was fine before the new owners came in. However, it is a fact that Allardyce and Williams were managing a difficult situation exceptionally well.

The situation had been managed for some years.

But the situation was that the owners wanted to sell and had stopped funding signings to any degree.

So the situation had to change.

You may not like the change, you are totally entitled to that opinion.

But there HAD to be a change. The alternative of going into the last window without money and a crying need for players would have been WORSE than what you have now.

It might not feel like it just now, but if you come through this season things will be much, much better than they were last summer.

Some good young players will have had a game and hopefully grown up, some older players will have proved their worth again. Others will clearly go.

And there will be money for new players.

[Guest linganzi]

oh hello alan, what alovely day to be playing devils advocate with loads of people who would sweat blood for the rovers, and in your delightfully defensive matter, why is that.

what money you think will be available if we stay up? enough for an agent to force an unsuitable argentine on us and massive wages for a crock?

and what if we do go out

[Parsonblue]

I don't mind change nicko, I just want decisions made for the right reasons and based on knowledge rather than a stab in the dark.

Unfortunately, the dealings in January haven't really filled me with confidence that our dealings in the summer will be any better. The one signing in January who I believe may offer long term value to the club is Rochina. He looks very raw at the moment but given time, I think he might make a player. However, for the moment I'll settle for finishing fourth from bottom and try to become more emotionally detached from it all over the summer!

[JAL]

Like Revidgeblue, Robbo, Samba, Phil Jones, Jermaine Jones, Olsson and Junior make for a very good premiership team, its filling in the rest that if you could complete it, then we would have a very good, a very exciting team.

But for the current manager a big NO NO!

[Amo]

Like Revidgeblue, Robbo, Samba, Phil Jones, Jermaine Jones, Olsson and Junior make for a very good premiership team, its filling in the rest that if you could complete it, then we would have a very good, a very exciting team.

Amazing how many people have had to eat their words about Hoilett.

[Roversider]

You and your mates must be like those idiots who sit and the back of the class, don't listen to the teacher and then wonder why you failed the exam.

Kean should be beaten and run out of the club. He and his owner-masters are destroying it.

An intelligent riposte, you may be wrong about the intelligence and education of some of those who hold different views than you.

I am glad that you have a balanced approach and think a physical assault on Kean is justified. By the way that is sarcasm to avoid misinterpretation.

Steve Kean should see out the season, there is not a credible alternative in my opinion.

I don't mind change nicko, I just want decisions made for the right reasons and based on knowledge rather than a stab in the dark.

Unfortunately, the dealings in January haven't really filled me with confidence that our dealings in the summer will be any better. The one signing in January who I believe may offer long term value to the club is Rochina. He looks very raw at the moment but given time, I think he might make a player. However, for the moment I'll settle for finishing fourth from bottom and try to become more emotionally detached from it all over the summer!

I would say that Jermaine Jones is good enough, Rochina I hope will be, Formica I have my doubts but he has swapped hemispheres and may struggle to settle in. I will give him time. Santa Cruz is a disappointment.

[John]

When the dust as settled on this season in a few weeks time , the decision to sack Sam Allardyce and replace him with Kean ,regardless of relegation or not will be the MOST LUDRICOUS footballing decision that this club as ever made ..

Speak to anyone though - the overwhelming majority (media, non Rovers fans, players/managers in the game) thought sacking Sam, at that time of the season, was a bizarre decision.

What was actually more bizarre was appointing Steve Kean - who is Steve Kean I kept (and keep) getting asked and why did he get the manager's job? (probably the most annoying question to answer).

I get the impression Kean is running out of ideas, he looks more and more clueless as time goes on and it feels like we've seen it all before (Brian Kidd).

Also, the results we are currently getting completely validates the so called hoofball style of football under Sam - we simply don't have attacking quality, in relation to personnel, to play this much sought after more attractive style (and consistently pick up points).

With conflict of interest at the core of the probems, the whole thing is a complete and utter disgrace - the awful judgement(s) of SEM/Kentaro and ultimately Venky's looks like it could have catastrophic implications for our club.

[Majiball]

Also, the results we are currently getting completely vadiates the so called hoofball style of football under Sam - we simply don't have attacking quality, in relation to personnel, to play this much sought after more attractive style (and consistently pick up points).

We can have shades of grey. Bolton have shown you can mix it up just as we did with hughes.

[Mattyblue]

The whole argument, be it from nicko or anyone else that Sam was sacked 'cos they didn't want him spending their cash' falls down with the full time appointment of Kean.

[roverwhelmed]

With conflict of interest at the core of the probems, the whole thing is a complete and utter disgrace - the awful judgement(s) of SEM/Kentaro and ultimately Venky's looks like it could have catastrophic implications for our club.

It was just so unnecessary. It is incredibly frustrating and heartbreaking to watch.

[bob fleming]

I do think you might have a gem in the manager. But he is going to have to prove it in the next six weeks.

That would be awfully good of him. To date I have seen precisely nothing to back up your first sentence.

Go on what has he done to be considered "a gem"? "Pressers"? Results? They're quite important. No it can't be those, they're been @#/? by and large. Signings? No, pretty disasterous there as well I'd suggest bar J Jones. Getting on planes to India? Could be. Getting on well with his new Assistant Manager he'd never met before? Happen. Signing the new Chris Smalling? (Cause we're light at Centre Half aren't we? (let's pretend he can play for a moment eh?)).

Other than that I'm really struggling here.

[John]

We can have shades of grey. Bolton have shown you can mix it up just as we did with hughes.

I think they have better quality players in midfield in relation to passing the ball - Holden, for example, is a very good player.

[Majiball]

That would be awfully good of him. To date I have seen precisely nothing to back up your first sentence.

Go on what has he done to be considered "a gem"? "Pressers"? Results? They're quite important. No it can't be those, they're been @#/? by and large. Signings? No, pretty disasterous there as well I'd suggest bar J Jones. Getting on planes to India? Could be. Getting on well with his new Assistant Manager he'd never met before? Happen. Signing the new Chris Smalling? (Cause we're light at Centre Half aren't we? (let's pretend he can play for a moment eh?)).

Other than that I'm really struggling here.

If being honest the first thing I thought when he said that was poor Mrs Nicko she must have gotten a really small diamond ring.

[Majiball]

I think they have better quality players in midfield in relation to passing the ball - Holden, for example, is a very good player.

Holden does look like a find a decent steady player.

They probably do have better passers of the ball than us but one thing Coyle appears to be good at is playing to his players strengths. We lack passers in the middle and yet we try and pass through there. I would say in Olsson and Junior we have better wide men than Bolton and so we should exploit their pace and dribbling with more frequency. We don't just need to be direct with the players we have, we just need to play our strongest 11 in a formation and fashion that suits them best, something I feel we haven't been doing since Hughes. We've always since then had guys in charge that want to play a set way, for me that's just not good management.

[steo]

The situation had been managed for some years.

But the situation was that the owners wanted to sell and had stopped funding signings to any degree.

So the situation had to change.

You may not like the change, you are totally entitled to that opinion.

But there HAD to be a change. The alternative of going into the last window without money and a crying need for players would have been WORSE than what you have now.

It might not feel like it just now, but if you come through this season things will be much, much better than they were last summer.

Some good young players will have had a game and hopefully grown up, some older players will have proved their worth again. Others will clearly go.

And there will be money for new players.

Disagree what have Venkys done but make a mockery of our great club,as for the transfer window which sucked by the way,in a january transfer window the aim MUST be to add more quality to your squad and sign players who will make an immediate impact not sign players for the future!Kean is a brutal manager without doubt the worst in the prem league and venkys are fools for employing him.i pray we will stay up but just cant see us winning too many games.Kalinic is our best finisher,he just needs confidence and a strong manager to get the best out of him.

[John]

We have had some pretty major "about-turns" from Kean in recent weeks.

1) He suggested his teams would have 2 out and out forwards on the pitch - he has reverted to just Santa recently. Fine to be flexible in your approach however this suggests he is not sure on what formation suits us best possibly.

2) Kean said the way we were going to play meant we would likely concede more goals and therefore would have to outscore the opposition - as we know clean sheets are back to top of the agenda again - I would like to know what he was basing his original thinking on as our strikers don't look like they could score in Wan Chai?

[Kelbo]

The kids will save us.

Now, anyone who doesnt believe Kean is an idiot, they should read his comments there, totally contradicting his statement that in a relegation battle the experienced men, Salgado, Nelsen, Robbo, Samba etc were the important players!!

I would agree that the experienced pros aqre important but its the balance of both which will get us through if we do, not one or the other.

I do wish the fellow would think before he speaks, he must be taking lessons from Pune, whoi incidently seem to have gone pretty quiet recently!

[Gav]

Now, anyone who doesnt believe Kean is an idiot, they should read his comments there, totally contradicting his statement that in a relegation battle the experienced men, Salgado, Nelsen, Robbo, Samba etc were the important players!!

I would agree that the experienced pros aqre important but its the balance of both which will get us through if we do, not one or the other.

I do wish the fellow would think before he speaks, he must be taking lessons from Pune, whoi incidently seem to have gone pretty quiet recently!

I do wish you'd think before you speak, he's talking up the young players coming though, but mainly Hoilett, nothing more nothing less, your messiah Allardyce did the same, but never played him.

[tony gale's mic]

I do wish you'd think before you speak, he's talking up the young players coming though, but mainly Hoilett, nothing more nothing less, your messiah Allardyce did the same, but never played him.

Another load of rubbish. Sam played Hoilett 27 times last season. Most as a sub, granted, but it was his first season, he was 19 years old and he didn't really impress that much in his sub appearances.

[Kelbo]

I do wish you'd think before you speak, he's talking up the young players coming though, but mainly Hoilett, nothing more nothing less, your messiah Allardyce did the same, but never played him.

No he's not and on Friday 'bigged up' Givet then didnt play him, if you cant see the guy as a joke and a con man, then I feel really

sorry for you as you are one of the very few people in the country who cant, I really cannot see how you can continually defend the man, I feel physically sick just seeing his photograph and along with the people in Pune, have brought total chaos and disgrace to our football club, fortunately we only have 6 matches at most to endure the clown.

PS. Look at my posts, tell me where I have called or referred to Allardyce as a messiah, I have only stated fact, if we are speaking of Kean and refer to fact, its two wins in 12!!