[Archived] Steve Kean

[thenodrog]

Can you suggest another way of suriving with the poor squad Sam had at his disposal ? Playing attractive football with this set of players in nigh-on impossible as Kean has rapidly found out so please enlighten me with your managerial and coaching wizardry because you're obviously in the wrong job.

Exactly. Even somebody with the memory of an average goldfish should rem that since Hughes departed all his best players with the exception of Samba had left. Under the financial constraints imposed by the Walker Trust Allardyce never had a chance. I rather hoped Mrs Desai's cash would have given him that chance. She didn't and 'the lune from Pune' might be her epitaph.

[modes98]

Now my understanding, and I think I am correct, is that if you get a dispensation to manage a PL club without the pro License, you must have MANAGED for a number of years, Kean hasnt managed prior to Rovers!

I think it is different for coaches who have been in the game and have a certain level of experience within the coaching setup(not manager specific) at PL clubs. If it was a problem then it would have been raised by now and it hasn't been.

However if someone at the FA or PL could please bring it up then we can get rid of this muppet.

David Hoilett 2010/11

Start of the season:

8 appearances out of 17 game- 5 of which were subs, so started 3 out 17 games. 0 league goals.

Under Kean:

12 appearances out of 15 -2 subs so 10 starts out of 15. scoring 4 league goals.

and how many of those have we won? Compared to when we didn't play him.

And that's not to say he is a bad player, in fact he is our best at the moment, just I doubt that we have won many compared to Diouf's time.

[Kelbo]

Oh I love that!!

Memorandum.

For Mrs Desai read 'The Lune from Pune' Thats top class

[thenodrog]

linky

Unfortunately the headline says 'the prem radar' Abbs.

Game set and match

Congrats ..... You've won a battle but lost the war.

[Roberto Policano]

Claudio Ranieri would consider the job if offered in the Summer,if you don't go down.

[thenodrog]

Gord do you honesty believe the chicken dippers actually read this board and sacked mr walrus because of what was written here?

Plenty do read this board abbs who hold a certain influence within the business. Alan Nixon for one.

Claudio Ranieri would consider the job if offered in the Summer,if you don't go down.

The biter bit Roberto.

[onlyonejackwalker]

Game set and match

Like SA had nothing to do with his development anyway:!:

Even if arguing Kean has done amazingly well with this player and brought him on leaps and bounds, what on earth has he done with all the other players in the squad!

[ABBEY]

Plenty do read this board abbs who hold a certain influence within the business. Alan Nixon for one.

The biter bit Roberto.

but nicko just loves his jock mates and if anyone makes decisions on a multi million pound company then its pathetic .

[John]

Kean has done well to give Junior more game time - however, sadly for us at this moment in time, ultimately it is the results of team, not the performance of 1 player, which really matters.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Claudio Ranieri would consider the job if offered in the Summer,if you don't go down.

But if we don't go down - not sure they will let Kean go. To be honest - if we don't go down it will only be because we have improved. We have shown signs of improvement over the last 4 matches - this will need to continue (and possibly accelerate) if we are to stay up. Kean could then argue (not saying whether right or wrong) that it was down to his tactics starting to work.

Our owners already gambled massively giving him the job in the first place - letting him carry on (if we stay up) could be considered by them less of a risk than appointing him in the first place.

[Jimmy612]

On December 13th we were a whopping 2 points further away from the drop zone

With a very good premier league manager, a squad performing admirably in the PL with 21 points before Christmas, and an excellent chairman who ran the club very well.

Since then we have had home games against WHU, Stoke, Newcastle, WBA, Blackpool, Brimingham.. all of whom at the various times we played them were involved in a relegation battle. From the available 18 points we have collected 7. Had we collected 12 or probabaly more, which I feel would have happened when reviewing SA's track record against teams in and around us we would now have been quite comfortably sat in the PL.

Of course now Cruz you will tell me that we would never have got that many points under Allardyce, but I believe most people who think back to our games against teams similar to us at Ewood, will agree that we never lost under Allardyce, and won most of them.

[ABBEY]

SAM HAS GONE GET OVER IT NOWT YA CAN DO. DO YOU ALL GO AT YA EXES WHEN THEY DUMPED YA 6 MONTHS AGO OR MORE TO THE POINT WHEN YOU DUMPED THEM...

[John]

With a very good premier league manager, a squad performing admirably in the PL with 21 points before Christmas, and an excellent chairman who ran the club very well.

Since then we have had home games against WHU, Stoke, Newcastle, WBA, Blackpool, Brimingham.. all of whom at the various times we played them were involved in a relegation battle. From the available 18 points we have collected 7. Had we collected 12 or probabaly more, which I feel would have happened when reviewing SA's track record against teams in and around us we would now have been quite comfortably sat in the PL.

Of course now Cruz you will tell me that we would never have got that many points under Allardyce, but I believe most people who think back to our games against teams similar to us at Ewood, will agree that we never lost under Allardyce, and won most of them.

Plus based on last season we saw a significant improvement in the 2nd half of the season - we matched and beat some of the best clubs in the land.

My firm opinion is that with Sam in charge we would have finished pretty high up the table this year, no doubt about it for me.

Anyway, sadly that won't be the case.

[Majiball]

SAM HAS GONE GET OVER IT NOWT YA CAN DO. DO YOU ALL GO AT YA EXES WHEN THEY DUMPED YA 6 MONTHS AGO OR MORE TO THE POINT WHEN YOU DUMPED THEM...

If six months down the line I ain't getting no results off course I go back to the ex.

[tony gale's mic]

David Hoilett 2010/11

Start of the season:

8 appearances out of 17 game- 5 of which were subs, so started 3 out 17 games. 0 league goals.

Under Kean:

12 appearances out of 15 -2 subs so 10 starts out of 15. scoring 4 league goals.

Under Sam Diouf was widely thought be possibly our best player in the first 10 games or so this season, though he was pretty pony for most of last season. Why drop a player who's performing well? Hoilett didn't really offer that much in most of the games he's played until recently. Often he'd come on with 20-30 mins to go - perfect for a pacy player to make an impact but he rarely did. It's great things have changed and we all thought he had plenty of promise but only recently has he been playing particularly well.

Last season he got ample pitch time for someone who had just arrived at the top level and who was 19 years old. To say that Sam didn't play him is still rubbish considering he featured in the majority of last seasons games.

No manager would have a 19 year old in his first season starting regularly unless the situation was desperate or if he'd performed particularly well as a sub.

[ABBEY]

If six months down the line I ain't getting no results off course I go back to the ex.

SHE WONT HAVE YOU!! DEAL WITH IT

[imy9]

Under Sam Diouf was widely thought be possibly our best player in the first 10 games or so this season, though he was pretty pony for most of last season. Why drop a player who's performing well? Hoilett didn't really offer that much in most of the games he's played until recently. Often he'd come on with 20-30 mins to go - perfect for a pacy player to make an impact but he rarely did. It's great things have changed and we all thought he had plenty of promise but only recently has he been playing particularly well.

Last season he got ample pitch time for someone who had just arrived at the top level and who was 19 years old. To say that Sam didn't play him is still rubbish considering he featured in the majority of last seasons games.

No manager would have a 19 year old in his first season starting regularly unless the situation was desperate or if he'd performed particularly well as a sub.

I would agree with last season TGM, this made sense, however this season he was not making the necessary progress and the stats highlight this. Cameo roles, 10-20 minutes here and there showed flashes of brilliance but he was generally still dropped, under Kean and the way that we play, it is better for Hoilett, which is why, when Sam left, suddenly the guy who made 8 starts in a season and a half under Sam scoring no goals has now made 10 starts and scored 4 goals. He is also a key member of the side and one of the first names on the team sheet.

[Jimmy612]

Game set and match

Congratulations Gav! You've sat on here for the last 4 months since our club has nosedived talking like a thick #### but eventually you have proved every one of us right.

Our team is emboriled in a relegation scrap because we sacked a manager and appointed a puppet, but who cares, as long as you can sit masjestically on your high horse following the revelation that Hoillet didn't play a vast amount under Allardyce.

Lets not consider the fact that Allardcye brought him back from his loan spell (at which point he wanted to leave), talked him into staying and then progressed him into first team action.

We shall all forget the unbelievably stupid things that you have been saying since you joined this messageboard. Didn't you believe Ince deserved more time? Wasn't it you that came on here after every BRFC game under Allardyce, bemoaning the fact that we had won a game because we hadn't passed the ball on the floor?

And yet you have the audacity to sit there and type 'game, set and match' like this is some huge result for you and your other know-nothing mates (I admit it must be a long time since you have felt like you are right about anything concerning BRFC).

Perhaps we should all come on here if Blackburn get relegated and write 'game, set and match.' I won't be doing that because I would love to be proven wrong by Steve Kean.. I hope he is the next Arsene Wenger or Alex Ferguson.

You know nothing about football whatsoever, and if you believe a very good PL manager deserved to be sacked because he played unattractive football then you are completely deluded.

You say Mercerman is a dingle.. I'm starting to think you are if you can be in such jovial moods regarding Blackburns continued plummet towards relegation

[cruz]

With a very good premier league manager, a squad performing admirably in the PL with 21 points before Christmas, and an excellent chairman who ran the club very well.

Since then we have had home games against WHU, Stoke, Newcastle, WBA, Blackpool, Brimingham.. all of whom at the various times we played them were involved in a relegation battle. From the available 18 points we have collected 7. Had we collected 12 or probabaly more, which I feel would have happened when reviewing SA's track record against teams in and around us we would now have been quite comfortably sat in the PL.

Of course now Cruz you will tell me that we would never have got that many points under Allardyce, but I believe most people who think back to our games against teams similar to us at Ewood, will agree that we never lost under Allardyce, and won most of them.

It was meerly a jest in bad taste. However we were not MILES away from safety as suggested, albeit with half a season left. We could have been far better off under the last manager but with the poor poor squad we have we could have just as easily be in same position. There is only so long that the last manager could hold his thumb in the dyke.

[ABBEY]

You say Mercerman is a dingle.. I'm starting to think you are if you can be in such jovial moods regarding Blackburns continued plummet towards relegation

IVE A GRAND IN A BANK ....IF YOU CARE TO WAGER ID SAY GAVS AS BLUE N WHITE AS THEY COME.

[Jimmy612]

. He is also a key member of the side that has completely plummeted in the last 4 months and one of the first names on the team sheet.

Correct Imy9

[imy9]

Correct Imy9

You are not linking the form of Hoilett with our bad run are you? If anything he has saved it from being worse!

[Jimmy612]

IVE A GRAND IN A BANK ....IF YOU CARE TO WAGER ID SAY GAVS AS BLUE N WHITE AS THEY COME.

Is your caps lock button broken, you do appear to get hysterical at times, as your other equally ridiculous post above clarifies.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

With a very good premier league manager, a squad performing admirably in the PL with 21 points before Christmas, and an excellent chairman who ran the club very well.

Since then we have had home games against WHU, Stoke, Newcastle, WBA, Blackpool, Brimingham.. all of whom at the various times we played them were involved in a relegation battle. From the available 18 points we have collected 7. Had we collected 12 or probabaly more, which I feel would have happened when reviewing SA's track record against teams in and around us we would now have been quite comfortably sat in the PL.

Of course now Cruz you will tell me that we would never have got that many points under Allardyce, but I believe most people who think back to our games against teams similar to us at Ewood, will agree that we never lost under Allardyce, and won most of them.

Normally I would agree with you - and if I had to put money on it would say that if Sam was still in charge it is likely we would be safe or nearly safe by now.

However - this isn't a normal season - would you expect

WHU to beat Man United 4-0 in the cup ?

Stoke - actually struggle to find anything unusual with Stoke's results this season

Newcastle - beat AV 6-0 ?

WBA beat Arsenal ?

Blackpool do the double over Liverpool ?

Big Club beat Arsenal in a Cup Final ?

So who is to say we would have a better record or not. It is too late to ponder these things - we are where we are - now is the time to get behind Kean and the team.

[Jimmy612]

You are not linking the form of Hoilett with our bad run are you? If anything he has saved it from being worse!

No of course not, but you are implying that Keans new formation has allowed Hoillet to progress as a player. With this I completely agree. However, this change of formation has also had a fairly detrimental effect on the rest of our players, as the past 4 months has shown.