[Archived] Blackburn Rovers' dealings with influential agent Jerome Anderson comes under scrutiny

[Fife Rover]

After this latest signing I think I will withdraw my support until such time as the club is under new ownership.

Venky's legitimately bought the club I suppose and if they want to destroy this fine club that is their prerogative, but they will not do it with my backing.

Blackburn Rovers will be in the Championship next season and hopefully that financial catastrophe will scare off the cowboys from India and someone (hopefully local) will come in who has a grip on reality and some clue about how to run a club.

I suggest we all refuse to buy any tickets for games or any merchandise until they have gone. It's up to you all of course, but if we go on with these idiots much longer BRFC will simply cease to exist.

I suggest that if everyone follows your advice religiously PH the result will be that Venkys will make full use of their mortgage facility before finally selling the club off with horrendous debts that will mean they will only be able to find a buyer that intends to demolsh Ewood Park and use all the land for building on. This includes Brockhall etc as well.

[deftangel]

Surely you are only reducing the probability of obtaining results when you appoint a novice in Steve Kean who has never managed before in his life.

Plus putting him together with John Jensen presumably, and only, because he is part of the SEM network?

Truly bizarre thinking.

If we're going to have a relationship with SEM, it makes sense to leverage that to recruit talent (players/coaches) to the club so long as they are good appointments and they are done in an above board fashion. If there were other/better candidates (who were willing to work with Kean) than JJ that were overlooked, either on the basis of their agent or a few quid here and there, clearly that's a bad thing. Was that the case? Hard to say. Archie Knox didn't do a lot for Ince and he was well known enough.

I've no dramas who somebody's agent is so long as they make an effective contribution and don't bring the club into disrepute.

It's difficult to see how either of those could apply to Myles Anderson. He's not going to play and it looks bad from all angles.

[roversmum]

After this latest signing I think I will withdraw my support until such time as the club is under new ownership.

Venky's legitimately bought the club I suppose and if they want to destroy this fine club that is their prerogative, but they will not do it with my backing.

Blackburn Rovers will be in the Championship next season and hopefully that financial catastrophe will scare off the cowboys from India and someone (hopefully local) will come in who has a grip on reality and some clue about how to run a club.

I suggest we all refuse to buy any tickets for games or any merchandise until they have gone. It’s up to you all of course, but if we go on with these idiots much longer BRFC will simply cease to exist.

Presumably then you have contacted them to tell them what you are doing and why. Otherwise, there's not really any point.

[John]

If we're going to have a relationship with SEM, it makes sense to leverage that to recruit talent (players/coaches) to the club so long as they are good appointments and they are done in an above board fashion. If there were other/better candidates (who were willing to work with Kean) than JJ that were overlooked, either on the basis of their agent or a few quid here and there, clearly that's a bad thing. Was that the case? Hard to say. Archie Knox didn't do a lot for Ince and he was well known enough.

Sorry, I am a bit lost - are you trying to say Steve Kean and John Jensen are/were the best men for their respective jobs?

Remember Kean saying the assistant manager would make us stand up and take notice - what? Maybe stand up and take notice what a weird decision it was.

Everyone I have talked too pretty much has always asked me how the hell did both of these two end up in those positions.

It really is a joke, pity I don't find it at all amusing.

[deftangel]

Sorry, I am a bit lost - are you trying to say Steve Kean and John Jensen are/were the best men for their respective jobs?

For the assistant position, I've no idea who else was available and was willing to come and work with Kean, do you? All I'm saying is, players and coaches should not be written off just because they happen to be SEM clients.

I would personally have preferred a more experienced number two in the vein of say, Jim Smith who used to be at Portsmouth back in the day (I'm not suggesting him, just similar) who had previous form and experience for guiding rookie managers through their first few seasons.

If such a candidate was overlooked on the basis of who Jensen's agent is, I would be absolutely furious. As it stands I a) don't know that it counted for nowt with Knox & Ince and c) I have no idea what contribution JJ has made since he got here. Clearly not a visible improvement!

The wider point I'm making is, a relationship with SEM isn't intrinsically bad if it gives us access to decent players and not donkeys. John Jensen and Myles Anderson may very well not represent decent in any shape or form, but it's not the plan that is bad per se, just the implementation. At least so far.

[chaddyrovers]

Sorry, I am a bit lost - are you trying to say Steve Kean and John Jensen are/were the best men for their respective jobs?

Remember Kean saying the assistant manager would make us stand up and take notice - what? Maybe stand up and take notice what a weird decision it was.

Everyone I have talked too pretty much has always asked me how the hell did both of these two end up in those positions.

It really is a joke, pity I don't find it at all amusing.

We all know/or most of us do know that Kean/Jensen are not up to it in their current jobs. Kean is a coach and maybe He would be better suited to being Head Coach and us appointing a Proven Director of Football.

I am sure that Kentaro/SEM must have a better manager on their books than Kean.

Kean record as manager is worse than Paul Ince reign.

I'm all for giving the manager time but I am sorry to say that He is not up to the job.

The reason Kean got the job was because He is a yes man and very easily for the owners and Kentaro/SEM to force players on him. When Kean said that it was his idea for us to sign Ronaldinho. We all know it wasn't and He made us look foolish. I remember when I heard him say that and I laughed my head off.

I just hope that in the summer, the owners will realise that Kean is not up to the summer and get us a proper proven PL manager to kove the team forwards. Hopefully with a proper Club Chairman in place aswell and no involvement from PH or JA.

[chaddyrovers]

I would personally have preferred a more experienced number two in the vein of say, Jim Smith who used to be at Portsmouth back in the day (I'm not suggesting him, just similar) who had previous form and experience for guiding rookie managers through their first few seasons.

If such a candidate was overlooked on the basis of who Jensen's agent is, I would be absolutely furious. As it stands I a) don't know that it counted for nowt with Knox & Ince and c) I have no idea what contribution JJ has made since he got here. Clearly not a visible improvement!

I think that they was plenty of good number 2 about like Ray Lewington from Fulham or Ray Wilkins. maybe someone like Billy McKinlay or Mike Newell.

Since Jensen as come in as number 2. we have won only 1 game out of 8. 6 lost and 1 draw. 1 lost was in the FA Cup.

Make of that what you want. Maybe Jensen is the problem? I don't know only a suggestion

[deftangel]

I think that they was plenty of good number 2 about like Ray Lewington from Fulham or Ray Wilkins. maybe someone like Billy McKinlay or Mike Newell.

Since Jensen as come in as number 2. we have won only 1 game out of 8. 6 lost and 1 draw. 1 lost was in the FA Cup.

Make of that what you want. Maybe Jensen is the problem? I don't know only a suggestion

Wilkins would have been an excellent choice. Was he available/willing? Unlikely but no harm in asking. I would have hoped we did.

Would Newell, having been a manager, been willing to work under Kean. Maybe not. The owners, for better or for worse, took a punt on a rookie manager and one consequence of that is he will have been unlikely to be able to pick a #2 from all and sundry. Particularly if they already had a job.

[philipl]

Points 1 and 2. We had both of those things in place but the Venkeys wouldn't allow independent thought and wanted full control albeit from a position of almost complete ignorance... despite Alan Nixon informing us that the brothers are the Indian equivalent of a cross between Statto and Henry Winter.

Point 3. Reading between lines Anderson appears to have many enemies within English footaball's heirarchy who are waiting to find any chink in his armour before sliding a blade in. The Venkeys are allowing him enough rope to hang himself.... and us.

Worth a repost that one 'drog. Actually I thought nicko was saying Balaji is a Barca fan and didmn't want to talk about anything as boring or limited as Steve Kean's tactics with the man himself.

No wonder we are going down if the Manager makes a day trip to Pune to talk about Barca with the owners! Steve Kean has it cushy obviously.

[cn174]

I feel a bit sorry for Venky's in this. They put clean money up after many time-wasters and talkers tried to buy Rovers in recent years. I respect anybody who puts their cash into a football club.

Hmm, I don't think I feel sorry for them at all because I think a lot of the distrust of them is of their own doing. My main reason is that when they first come in I think the most people were pleased that someone had bought us whilst being a bit cautious. I remember that when they appeared at Ewood they got a good reception. I remember that at Bolton away, there was a group of lads dressed as chickens, and there were people singing 'pro Venkys' songs on occasion. So right at the beginning I think people were generally fine with them.

However after the Bolton game they have managed to drive a massive wedge between themselves and the fans, mostly of their own doing in my opinion doing daft to ridiculous things (examples below), which has left people with such a distrust of them and worry of the future. Things such as:

• the Sam sacking. Now whatever people think of Sam, this decision was made by Mrs D (who said she'd never watched a game of football) because of some party and she wanted us to play exciting football, and he wasn't the man to deliver it.
  
• now I think this could be forgiven had there been someone lined up to replace him. But Kean was given the job temporarily, then till the end of the season, then amazingly a three year contract after a month or so, on the basis that he is a positive thinker!!!
  
• JW 'resigning' hmm yea whatever
  
• The whole Ronaldinho/Maradona/Kaka/etc nonsense, especially Ronaldinho. And its not particularly that we 'went' to get them, it was all the stuff they were saying about them. In the case of Ronaldinho, they posted it on their website and facebook page, then later took it down. At some points they tried to say they didn't know where the rumours had come from (erm, you?!), then a bit later they were saying it was true and we were deffo going to sign him.
  
• etc
  

Now I may not have got all the timeline of events right, but thats not so much the point. When they arrived, there was some very good people around Rovers, Rovers and the people who run it were highly thought of I think in footballing circles. And I would even say that despite us on occasion whinging that the papers/sky/bbc don't like us, with the odd exception of a few journalists, we were pretty well respected in terms of the media. Also I think that the majority of people who support Rovers were proud to do so because of how the club was.

However in just 4 months, that whole thing seems to have eroded away. If they'd have just come in, worked with the people who were already here and learnt the ways of running a football club (because lets be honest, they have no clue) then I think people would've respected them a lot more and liked them as owners. As it happens they have made many foolish decisions and every time one of them speaks they're contradicting themselves, and like I said the longer this goes on, the less people are going to trust them which all makes for an uncertain future.

[den]

You're right Clare - and you should post more.

[TimmyJimmy]

Maybe people would like to "do something", TimmyJimmy, but with the cloak-and-dagger, "I know something that you don't know" farce that is reinforced time and time again (often amounting to complete BS, may I add) by the likes of yourself and Philipl, maybe folk here don't know exactly what they are supposed to be "doing something" about. I for one don't have a bl00dy clue.

Over the last few weeks, I have grown tired and bored with the political diarrhea that has been associated with BRFC, but, to be honest, 80% of this has been from reading this messageboard, especially from posters "in the know".

I am still waiting for the "5 or 6" great announcements to bring a "Venky's love-in", or the myriad other promises made by "in the know" BPF.

I'm afraid you boys have just cried wolf one too many times and for that reason, I can no longer appreciate your posts.

I'm off now to bury my head in the sand, once again.

At least it's only a game, eh.

Jackson I understand where you’re coming from, putting myself on your side of the fence I can see that it is extremely frustrating to be told only partial information. Unfortunately that’s the way it is, some things cannot be shared in a public forum. The way around this? As I said an organisation like a Supporters Trust could discuss these matters in private and decide on what action (if any) to take. By ‘action’ I don’t mean taking to the streets or storming Brockhall en masse, I mean making creative and considered communication with whoever it concerns.

A Supporters Trust (or some such body representing the member fans views) would be active as a situation develops and could provide alternative input/views. Therefore it is irrelevant to ask “what could we have done about ...” because you are talking about resolved issues or ones that have gone away. The whole point about a fan’s body is that it would be active at a time when we can make a difference.

Take some situations that may have happened :

- suppose someone hears from the head of a major football organisation that the players at Rovers are in open revolt and are looking for a way out, is it right to flag that such a problem may be going on in the background? Could names be named without compromising the person concerned? The later fact that the players may have calmed down and/or received improved contracts and no longer want to leave is by the by. Such a situation would have been truthful and accurate at the time of posting.

- suppose a former manager states that the Venkys wouldn’t be around for too much longer because of various conversations he was privy to, is it right to flag this and name names? Maybe later all parties within Venkys had internal discussions and come out publically and say they are around for the long term. Such a situation would have been truthful and accurate at the time of posting.

- suppose that Maradona was being actively courted by one of the Venkys and that he may have been interested but that this was unknown to other Venkys. Suppose that the Venky shared that information and it was posted on here. Suppose that later Maradona said “No”. Such a situation would have been truthful and accurate at the time of posting. Should chapter and verse and source be posted to satisfy some forensic need for quotations and absolute proof?

Whatever your take on the above (and others like JW’s slow developing expulsion, Kean’s long term contract etc) a fan’s body could have presented the fan’s opinion whilst the situation was developing and hopefully influence the course of events. The fact that some historical things worked out anyway without any intervention is entirely by the by. Stuff happens, situations change, it doesn’t make the information wrong.

The fans need a voice and place where they can discuss things in a full and frank manner away from the gaze of lawyers and the threat of sanctions. You mention previous contributions from Philip, BPF, Glenn and others yet whatever you have heard is only the tip of a long chain of events - some of which are worrying.

My argument is that it is indeed your right as a fan to know what these other people know (perhaps allege would be a safer word to use). A fans forum could facilitate question and challenge in a safe environment and decide on a collective response.

Personal networks rule the world, collectively we all know many many people who could be asked to input with advice or provide confidential information to such a forum. With a bit of organisation we may be able to influence affairs at our club by speaking with one voice. Sometimes I think we are all pulling on the same rope but unfortunately in different directions.

My own view is that all this should wait until after the season ends and that we should all be on the terraces with one voice shouting the team home to premiership survival. First things first.

[funny-old-game]

Worth a repost that one 'drog. Actually I thought nicko was saying Balaji is a Barca fan and didmn't want to talk about anything as boring or limited as Steve Kean's tactics with the man himself.

No wonder we are going down if the Manager makes a day trip to Pune to talk about Barca with the owners! Steve Kean has it cushy obviously.

Beat me to it, I was thinking the same thing a work today!

According to Niko, talking with kean for most of the meeting about barca makes him knowledgeable about football, my 11 year old could do that.

Maybe he would have been better talking about things in the real world, like how to move Rovers on in a sensible manner and not DREAMING of being the next Barca.

Just goes to show how daft thing have become!!!

[imy9]

Worth a repost that one 'drog. Actually I thought nicko was saying Balaji is a Barca fan and didmn't want to talk about anything as boring or limited as Steve Kean's tactics with the man himself.

No wonder we are going down if the Manager makes a day trip to Pune to talk about Barca with the owners! Steve Kean has it cushy obviously.

Is that what Nicko said? Barcelona are THE model to follow, in playing style, youth development etc what's wrong with this being brought up in a conversation? Facts and opinion again...

[CrazyIvan]

Is that what Nicko said? Barcelona are THE model to follow, in playing style, youth development etc what's wrong with this being brought up in a conversation? Facts and opinion again...

Ah but this kind of thing can be spun so that it's a negative against both Kean and Venkys...

I prefer my facts to be straight forward and untainted by opinion so that I can make my own mind up. Peoples opinons tend to be based on assumption as much as fact so hearing them mixed together just makes the facts utterly useless.

[chaddyrovers]

The Barcelona style of play and the Model has taken ove 20 years to get to this stage. Johan Cryuff was the man behind this Philosophy.

The owners have to get realistic about rovers. If you are going to adopt this style of play then you need a manager who play this way and has done this at a club of bringing through young players and developing them!

Martin Jol sounds like the for me if that is the way you are going to do that. Jurgen Knilsmann is another one who plays this way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Football

http://iberosphere.com/2010/04/guardiolas-masterwork-is-based-on-cruyffs-art/892

http://www.frankrijkaard.org/coaching_philosophy_and_style.html

[John]

Hmm, I don't think I feel sorry for them at all because I think a lot of the distrust of them is of their own doing. My main reason is that when they first come in I think the most people were pleased that someone had bought us whilst being a bit cautious. I remember that when they appeared at Ewood they got a good reception. I remember that at Bolton away, there was a group of lads dressed as chickens, and there were people singing 'pro Venkys' songs on occasion. So right at the beginning I think people were generally fine with them.

However after the Bolton game they have managed to drive a massive wedge between themselves and the fans, mostly of their own doing in my opinion doing daft to ridiculous things (examples below), which has left people with such a distrust of them and worry of the future. Things such as:

• the Sam sacking. Now whatever people think of Sam, this decision was made by Mrs D (who said she'd never watched a game of football) because of some party and she wanted us to play exciting football, and he wasn't the man to deliver it.
  
• now I think this could be forgiven had there been someone lined up to replace him. But Kean was given the job temporarily, then till the end of the season, then amazingly a three year contract after a month or so, on the basis that he is a positive thinker!!!
  
• JW 'resigning' hmm yea whatever
  
• The whole Ronaldinho/Maradona/Kaka/etc nonsense, especially Ronaldinho. And its not particularly that we 'went' to get them, it was all the stuff they were saying about them. In the case of Ronaldinho, they posted it on their website and facebook page, then later took it down. At some points they tried to say they didn't know where the rumours had come from (erm, you?!), then a bit later they were saying it was true and we were deffo going to sign him.
  
• etc
  

Now I may not have got all the timeline of events right, but thats not so much the point. When they arrived, there was some very good people around Rovers, Rovers and the people who run it were highly thought of I think in footballing circles. And I would even say that despite us on occasion whinging that the papers/sky/bbc don't like us, with the odd exception of a few journalists, we were pretty well respected in terms of the media. Also I think that the majority of people who support Rovers were proud to do so because of how the club was.

However in just 4 months, that whole thing seems to have eroded away. If they'd have just come in, worked with the people who were already here and learnt the ways of running a football club (because lets be honest, they have no clue) then I think people would've respected them a lot more and liked them as owners. As it happens they have made many foolish decisions and every time one of them speaks they're contradicting themselves, and like I said the longer this goes on, the less people are going to trust them which all makes for an uncertain future.

Excellent post.

[Mattyblue]

Ah but this kind of thing can be spun so that it's a negative against both Kean and Venkys...

I prefer my facts to be straight forward and untainted by opinion so that I can make my own mind up. Peoples opinons tend to be based on assumption as much as fact so hearing them mixed together just makes the facts utterly useless.

But cast iron facts often come out far too late. Ask Portsmouth fans.

Do we sit on our hands till the club is on its arse? I am not 'in the know' in the slightest but I try and read between the lines the best I can...

[imy9]

Ah but this kind of thing can be spun so that it's a negative against both Kean and Venkys...

I prefer my facts to be straight forward and untainted by opinion so that I can make my own mind up. Peoples opinons tend to be based on assumption as much as fact so hearing them mixed together just makes the facts utterly useless.

Opinions are great, after all this is a message board, but this constant presenting facts as opinions (this is generic rather than aimed at one individual is getting tiresome.

For example: Nicko states as a fact that Rovers paid Anderson a fee, to counteract a "fact" presented by someone else, the counter to Nicko?... finally an opinion- why not do this in the first place!

[finndaloo]

Hmm, I don't think I feel sorry for them at all because I think a lot of the distrust of them is of their own doing. My main reason is that when they first come in I think the most people were pleased that someone had bought us whilst being a bit cautious. I remember that when they appeared at Ewood they got a good reception. I remember that at Bolton away, there was a group of lads dressed as chickens, and there were people singing 'pro Venkys' songs on occasion. So right at the beginning I think people were generally fine with them.

However after the Bolton game they have managed to drive a massive wedge between themselves and the fans, mostly of their own doing in my opinion doing daft to ridiculous things (examples below), which has left people with such a distrust of them and worry of the future. Things such as:

• the Sam sacking. Now whatever people think of Sam, this decision was made by Mrs D (who said she'd never watched a game of football) because of some party and she wanted us to play exciting football, and he wasn't the man to deliver it.
  
• now I think this could be forgiven had there been someone lined up to replace him. But Kean was given the job temporarily, then till the end of the season, then amazingly a three year contract after a month or so, on the basis that he is a positive thinker!!!
  
• JW 'resigning' hmm yea whatever
  
• The whole Ronaldinho/Maradona/Kaka/etc nonsense, especially Ronaldinho. And its not particularly that we 'went' to get them, it was all the stuff they were saying about them. In the case of Ronaldinho, they posted it on their website and facebook page, then later took it down. At some points they tried to say they didn't know where the rumours had come from (erm, you?!), then a bit later they were saying it was true and we were deffo going to sign him.
  
• etc
  

Now I may not have got all the timeline of events right, but thats not so much the point. When they arrived, there was some very good people around Rovers, Rovers and the people who run it were highly thought of I think in footballing circles. And I would even say that despite us on occasion whinging that the papers/sky/bbc don't like us, with the odd exception of a few journalists, we were pretty well respected in terms of the media. Also I think that the majority of people who support Rovers were proud to do so because of how the club was.

However in just 4 months, that whole thing seems to have eroded away. If they'd have just come in, worked with the people who were already here and learnt the ways of running a football club (because lets be honest, they have no clue) then I think people would've respected them a lot more and liked them as owners. As it happens they have made many foolish decisions and every time one of them speaks they're contradicting themselves, and like I said the longer this goes on, the less people are going to trust them which all makes for an uncertain future.

Totally agree. Been watching Rovers since the mid sixties and I really don't understand what's happening at all. Someone, hopefully unconsciously, because I'd hate to think it could be otherwise, is making a very good fist of destroying that sense of honesty and credibility which has kept me behind the club, no matter how tough it seemed. I have always felt there was a sense of respect for the fans' loyalty from those running the club but I now share your frustration and uncertainty. I keep looking for positives but the catalogue of inexplicable decisions and inconsistency makes them increasingly difficult to find.

[John]

For the assistant position, I've no idea who else was available and was willing to come and work with Kean, do you? All I'm saying is, players and coaches should not be written off just because they happen to be SEM clients.

I would personally have preferred a more experienced number two in the vein of say, Jim Smith who used to be at Portsmouth back in the day (I'm not suggesting him, just similar) who had previous form and experience for guiding rookie managers through their first few seasons.

If such a candidate was overlooked on the basis of who Jensen's agent is, I would be absolutely furious. As it stands I a) don't know that it counted for nowt with Knox & Ince and c) I have no idea what contribution JJ has made since he got here. Clearly not a visible improvement!

The wider point I'm making is, a relationship with SEM isn't intrinsically bad if it gives us access to decent players and not donkeys. John Jensen and Myles Anderson may very well not represent decent in any shape or form, but it's not the plan that is bad per se, just the implementation. At least so far.

Why does it have to be a SEM management team of Kean & Jensen though - surely you want the best people possible in each job (manager & assistant manager). I still cannot get my head round it and it does not help when people keep asking me about it as if I am meant to justify it.

The manager is a crucial position obviously, and you can get away for example with signing a dud player. However for a club with little resources, as we very well know, you need a very good manger in place.

[imy9]

JJ is only contracted til the end of the season is he not? Maybe they have other ideas for the summer?

[thenodrog]

Maybe people would like to "do something", TimmyJimmy, but with the cloak-and-dagger, "I know something that you don't know" farce that is reinforced time and time again (often amounting to complete BS, may I add) by the likes of yourself and Philipl, maybe folk here don't know exactly what they are supposed to be "doing something" about. I for one don't have a bl00dy clue.

Over the last few weeks, I have grown tired and bored with the political diarrhea that has been associated with BRFC, but, to be honest, 80% of this has been from reading this messageboard, especially from posters "in the know".

I am still waiting for the "5 or 6" great announcements to bring a "Venky's love-in", or the myriad other promises made by "in the know" BPF.

I'm afraid you boys have just cried wolf one too many times and for that reason, I can no longer appreciate your posts.

I'm off now to bury my head in the sand, once again.

At least it's only a game, eh.

Good. Need any help Jackson?

btw I used to use this as my sig and I'm tempted to use it again... Remember the little boy who cried wolf? In the end there was a wolf!

Moving on. Nicko never reveals his sources and you wouldn't expect him to either so why should anybody else. Either take stuff at face value or don't, it's your choice.

What you might not realise is that anybody who posted anything close to the bone after the takeover had controversial stuff deleted along with a plea from admin to not post anything which could leave them facing legal action. Following the takeover and Allardyces sacking Admin had been spooked by someone so much that I got a ban for simply posting a link to a LT report on an alleged betting scam! I think PhilipL was either banned or threatened with a ban and I'm sure that others found themselves in the same boat. I hope I'm not betraying confidences but I understand that Glenn and possibly SteB too took extraordinary personal measures to protect themselves from litigation. From then on anybody with any info could only post stuff very very carefully, with no names and interspersed with loads of carefully placed riders like 'I believe' and 'imo' etc.

This is not Speakers Corner, that great pillar of a democracy Freedom of Speech is nothing more than a modern day myth and as I said before take it at face value or don't take it at all. It really is your choice.

[John]

Back in December, wonder what he feels now....

I was stabbed in the back - Allardyce

[thenodrog]

I suggest that if everyone follows your advice religiously PH the result will be that Venkys will make full use of their mortgage facility before finally selling the club off with horrendous debts that will mean they will only be able to find a buyer that intends to demolsh Ewood Park and use all the land for building on. This includes Brockhall etc as well.

I have a feeling that there is an arrangement in place that means Brockhall and Ewood are being leased to Venkeys by the Walker Trust for a number of years before they actually become owners. If they walk away I assume it will revert to Trust ownership again. I've no idea what will happen to it after that. Housing development possibly if the RVBC will permit it.