[Archived] Blackburn Rovers' dealings with influential agent Jerome Anderson comes under scrutiny

[yoda]

I posted the Myles Anderson story on here about three months ago.

The guy played and trained BEFORE his old man was part of the takeover process.

Signing him - and it is done - is a remarkably stupid thing to do.

But, hey ho.

I can think of other Rovers high-ups who have got the family involved in the past...

This one is clearly a mistake and should be scrubbed because nobody gains from it.

But an FA investigation? Do me a favour. What a load of old tripe.

What rule would be broken here? Apart from a 'stupidity test' being passed with flying colours.

There's a very interesting par in the Daily Telegraph story that seems to be missed. It says Jerome was employed by Rovers to find a buyer...

Very interesting.

welcome back,

now, a question for you, how deep is the ###### that we are in?

[Mattyblue]

Indeed nicko, Keano stated that this was the case when on Gols on Sunday with SEM cohort Charlie Nicholas.

[nicko]

welcome back,

now, a question for you, how deep is the ###### that we are in?

As much as all the other teams down the wrong end.

But self-destructing and getting carried away with daft 'who cares' stories doesn't help anybody right now.

One look at the Daily Telegraph tale tells you people are at the mix right now.

A lot of noses out of joint since the takeover...and some just won't let go.

Mind you, signing this lad is just plain daft in anybody's world view.

[chaddyrovers]

Just to pick up a few of your points.

1 - Really?? Theres me thinking RSC played more than 10 mins on saturday alone....and JJ played the full game again!

2 - Really?? Again at the time - I think you will find a large amount of fans where against him & his brand of football....and many where starting to make noises about not renewing next season etc.

3 - Only time will tell with that one.

Weve had a bad run, yes I dont doubt that! We have also had some VERY poor decisions against us recently...now is the time to SUPPORT your CLUB and help them battle for points....not moan about everything and go AGAINST them.

The summer is the time to evaluate how the owners have started off.

Firstly I was on about Formica and Ruben. Not RSC and JJ.

secondly, Where I sit at Ewood Park, alot of fans around me said that without Big Sam we would be playing in the championship. There took his style of football and results over being Entertainment.

Thirdly, I think you will find alot of fans who do not think that Kean is right for the rovers job. In this league, you need experience as manager if the PL.

And at every game, I support the Club and I was cheering and shouting at the game on Saturday.

The owners need to make up whether they are committed to the club and need to come and speak to the fans directly. WHY WERE THEY NOT AT THE GAME ON SATURDAY???

If they are, then they HAVE to appointed an experience Chairman and let him run the club with them and appoint an experience PL manager.

If they are not, then they NEED to sell the club to Owners who are committed to the club and the long term future of the club.

[nicko]

Indeed nicko, Keano stated that this was the case when on Gols on Sunday with SEM cohort Charlie Nicholas.

All of this Keano and Kentaro grand conspiracy makes me laugh.

Has anyone every bothered to look at who Sam's chums were or any other previous manager.

They all have their mates, they all rely on certain ones.

Nobody gives a sh!t when it is going well.

But when results go strange it's suddenly a national crisis.

I was on about Formica and Ruben. Not RSC and JJ.

Rochina looked ok for the stiffs last night. He could do with a shot in the first team, although the current position wouldn't help ease him in. But he has to be better than Diouf.

Formica has skill but has yet to show what position he is going to be ideal in. He has been injured, so I will cut him some slack.

Roque was a mistake. A mistake that a lot of people thought was a good idea - before and after the takeover. Not being smug here, I said it would be a disaster when Sam and John Williams first thought it was a neat idea.

Jones is hot and cold.

[Mattyblue]

Well I cared when things were going 'well'.

From December it has been wrong decision after another. May shock you but when it comes to their club some fans look further and deeper than spouting 'he's crap', 'he's out of position', 'booo hoofball' on a matchday.

[LeChuck]

As much as all the other teams down the wrong end.

We're in more #### then they are.

You can point to almost every team down there and pull positives from recent results - Wolves, West Brom, West Ham etc. All look capable of getting clean sheets and getting points. They're settled teams, all roughly know their best XI. Their January loan signings have worked better than ours and given the team a lift. They have experienced managers who can draw on knowledge from the past.

We have none of that. We're the team currently in the worst form. We can't defend. We have no idea what our strongest team is. We change strikers every game. Our manager and his assistant have no experience of this situation between them. Our manager has no managerial experience full stop.

[philipl]

As far as I am aware, the Rovers or Trust "employing JA" is a fiction that originated from Watford and is doing the rounds.

Agreed nicko- it passes the stupidity test but is it the act of stupidity potentially breaking the rule book which gives certain people who don't like JA their chance to step in?

As for which rule has been broken- an agent who has been advising the club being the same person who represents a player who then gets signed by the club he was advising (who happens to be the son of the aforesaid agent). That appears to break a bunch of rules. Looks even messier when seen in the context of another client of the same agent putting the player concerned onto the field of play in apparently controversial circumstances (before the agent's engagement by the same club) and that client getting a mind boggling and scarcely credible promotion into the manager's chair to boot. Apart from that all is hunky dory...

The insinuation against Simon Williams is dirty and the lack of knowledge of the way in which he was appointed just goes to show how out of touch with the old Rovers nicko was in reality.

[nicko]

Well I cared when things were going 'well'.

From December it has been wrong decision after another. May shock you but when it comes to their club some fans look further and deeper than spouting 'he's crap', 'he's out of position', 'booo hoofball' on a matchday.

You were seventh after beating West Brom in late January.

Just above Bolton at the time, as it happens.

[Mattyblue]

And? We are now a a point above the relgation zone! What good does being 7th in January do?

[nicko]

As far as I am aware, the Rovers or Trust "employing JA" is a fiction that originated from Watford and is doing the rounds.

Agreed nicko- it passes the stupidity test but is it the act of stupidity potentially breaking the rule book which gives certain people who don't like JA their chance to step in?

As for which rule has been broken- an agent who has been advising the club being the same person who represents a player who then gets signed by the club he was advising (who happens to be the son of the aforesaid agent). That appears to break a bunch of rules. Looks even messier when seen in the context of another client of the same agent putting the player concerned onto the field of play in apparently controversial circumstances (before the agent's engagement by the same club) and that client getting a mind boggling and scarcely credible promotion into the manager's chair to boot. Apart from that all is hunky dory...

The insinuation against Simon Williams is dirty and the lack of knowledge of the way in which he was appointed just goes to show how out of touch with the old Rovers nicko was in reality.

Anderson's company was employed by Rovers to find a buyer. Thought you would have known that. Kind of puts a different slant on your conspiracy theories, doesn't it.?

No rule broken with Myles Anderson. Apart from a football IQ test.

Simon Williams may/may not be good at his job. Unfortunately the appearance of nepotism makes it very hard for anyone to do their job properly. The point I am making is that it is not unusual for Rovers when it comes to apples falling near the tree.

Anyway, it doesn't change the point that signing Myles Anderson is a remarkably silly thing to do.

And? We are now a a point above the relgation zone! What good does being 7th in January do?

You said it was all turning to sh!t in December.

I just pointed out that January was after December.

[rebelmswar]

Anderson's company was employed by Rovers to find a buyer. Thought you would have known that. Kind of puts a different slant on your conspiracy theories, doesn't it.?

No rule broken with Myles Anderson. Apart from a football IQ test.

Simon Williams may/may not be good at his job. Unfortunately the appearance of nepotism makes it very hard for anyone to do their job properly. The point I am making is that it is not unusual for Rovers when it comes to apples falling near the tree.

Anyway, it doesn't change the point that signing Myles Anderson is a remarkably silly thing to do.

You said it was all turning to sh!t in December.

I just pointed out that January was after December.

Silly JUST because it looks bad?

[Mattyblue]

I said that I look deeper than what is going on the pitch.

What I saw was a rookie manger, rumours Williams was to be forced out, SEM assistant manager parachuted in to assit a man he'd never met, an office for SEM staff at Brockall etc etc.

[nicko]

Silly JUST because it looks bad?

Silly on every count. Certainly silly BECAUSE it looks bad. Even more silly as it won't make a difference to the team next season. Silly because it gives the chattering classes someting to chatter about.

So, silly. Yes.

[gumboots]

All of this Keano and Kentaro grand conspiracy makes me laugh.

Has anyone every bothered to look at who Sam's chums were or any other previous manager.

They all have their mates, they all rely on certain ones.

Nobody gives a sh!t when it is going well.

But when results go strange it's suddenly a national crisis.

i'll agree with that. If kean had got lucky and carried on winning nobody would be having the majority of these discussions, because you are quite right - there are a number of managers who have allegedly been less than whiter than white in their dealings, their friendships, the deals they have promoted to help those they know, and some have been and continue to be investigated closely by various bodies. The problem is that all is not going swimmingly and we, as fans, are quite rightly concerned about anything that may affect our PL position or our potential to at least consolidate and possibly come back if relegated. There are, as I've said previously, so many rumours going round that it's hard to sort the wheat from the chaff and when you're scared, you tend to believe the worst. I'm trying hard not to jump on any bandwagon that comes along, but as the weeks go by and new scare stories come out, new potentially disastrous scenarios, then you find that yourself getting more sucked into what if thoughts. These are very hard times to be a Rovers fan for those of us who haven't followed the club for more than twenty years. We're not really used to things going so badly wrong and we're having to cope with new emotions.

[cruz]

Round and round and round we go. When will it end? Nobody knows

[Mattyblue]

But we are not winning gumboots, possibly something to do with the fact we have no manager or Chairman?

Something to chatter about?

Aye, its not as if we have seen a fantastically run football club pretty much implode in THREE months.

[rebelmswar]

Silly on every count. Certainly silly BECAUSE it looks bad. Even more silly as it won't make a difference to the team next season. Silly because it gives the chattering classes someting to chatter about.

So, silly. Yes.

So signing him was Keans idea then?

[nicko]

So signing him was Keans idea then?

I would have to presume so. He came here last summer. And he is coming back.

It makes no sense to me.

[rebelmswar]

I would have to presume so. He came here last summer. And he is coming back.

It makes no sense to me.

Do you know why he left?

[nicko]

These are very hard times to be a Rovers fan for those of us who haven't followed the club for more than twenty years. We're not really used to things going so badly wrong and we're having to cope with new emotions.

It's only a decade since a rank-rotten Rovers team were relegated.

It's not that long ago that Souey had a few malcontents in his team and needed a big win at Fulham.

The current situation isn't good, certainly brings out the sweats.

But to make it sound like Armageddon is round the corner is partly caused by malicious nonsense from some parties.

When you went down that last time Jack was in charge, John Williams had been spending fortunes on bad players and you had Brian Kidd.

If there had been an internet then I wonder who would have been getting the blame?

Do you know why he left?

Not good enough.

By the way, why is there a deafening silence about the line that Rovers were using Jerome Anderson to find a buyer?

Or is that not computing with some?

[CrazyIvan]

Round and round and round we go. When will it end? Nobody knows

[Mattyblue]

Computes with me, tells me that the Trust are as much to blame (if not more) for this debacle as Venky's.

1999 was horrendous, however Jack bankrolled us back, will Mrs Desai do the same?

[philipl]

And the Trust paid how much to Jerome Anderson?

They were the seller who would have engaged somebody to find a buyer, NOT the Rovers.

[nicko]

Computes with me, tells me that the Trust are as much to blame (if not more) for this debacle as Venky's.

1999 was horrendous, however Jack bankrolled us back, will Mrs Desai do the same?

The Trust wanted to sell badly. Despite what some 'insiders' would tell you.

They would have used you, me or the devil himself to find a buyer.

But it's worth bearing in mind when and where Anderson came in. He clearly has contacts and found Venky's - along with Philippe Huber who rarely gets mentioned round here [except when I do it].

As for 1999 and now...firstly, you are not down yet and your team has more balls than that lot and secondly, I can't see any owners running a mile if the worst happens. What's the point of that?