[Archived] PROTEST!

[roverwhelmed]

No idea.

To be honest, I am completely torn, I hear snippets that if we stay up, brighter times could be on the horizon. So, for the 90 minutes I will be getting behind the lads to try and get over the line.

However, I am disguted by the way the club has been run over the last few months- this club has been such a source of pride for me and to see it in this state is heartbreaking.

Do we meekly trudge home for the remaining weeks of the season, saying 'just get behind the lads next week' until we are relegated?

Or after the game on Monday night do we the fans, for the first time in a generaton, say ENOUGH- we want to be heard.

I'm torn too. I'm not going to protest because I'm clinging on to - 1) those players, especially Junior, can still mathematically get us out of this situation and 2) whatever positive it is behind the scenes - with dear life.

[ABBEY]

Perhaps if the players finally realised about how much trouble we are in and saw the protests going on it might give them a kick up the backside they need? They've been backed 100% and cheered on in recent games, apart from the performance against Arsenal it doesn't look like it has worked at all.

do you believe that or is just a hope?

because they dont give a flying f about what happens next season. They know they will be sold ,signing on fees ,bigger wages etc.

[Mercer]

Rovers' supporters have been remarkably patient and tolerant whilst, IMO, Venky's and Kean have well nigh destroyed our club. They have been given every chance but have got it spectacularly wrong.

Monday night with a world wide audience is the prime time to, IMO, show the world what the supporters think of these clowns.

Venky's and Kean will hate it - well, we've hated virtually all that they have done too.

As many have said, what's the point of protesting at the end of the season when, in high probability, we will be dead and buried.

If the players have an ounce of intelligence then they will realise that it is not directed against them unless of course they chosae to throw in the towel which it seemed quite a number did at Everton.

[roversmum]

OK then, I'll ask you. What do you hope the outcome of the protest will be?

[Roverall]

If the players have an ounce of intelligence then they will realise that it is not directed against them unless of course they chosae to throw in the towel which it seemed quite a number did at Everton.

I think you are quite right. It can't get worse than at Goodison.

[Kamy100]

Like many on here I am torn about this issue, but like TJ said protesting at this stage will almost certainly result in creating a toxic atmosphere which will in turn affect the players negatively and thus almost guarantee relegation, while there is still some hope of survival we have to back the team.

Also as Roversmum says, what do we hope to achieve from any protest? If you are protesting you have to have some clear goals and objectives. Now one could say that a goal of the protest is the removal of Steve Kean as manager, but the owners have consistently said that this is not going to happen and with them not being at Ewood on Monday a Kean out protest is not going to have much effect on them but could have a negative impact on the performance of the players.

In the end I guess this is an individual decision, my opinion is that whilist I hate what is going on at Rovers at the moment, I am going to bite my tongue and get behind the players and hope that they can get us out the mess that we currently find ourselves in. After the season has finished or when we have achieved safety/or been relegated is the time to look at what happens next.

[CAPT KAYOS]

We don't expect 3 points against ManC our points are more likely to come from other games. Let's not lose our heads. Stay calm and carry on is some of the best advice I ever heard.

Although I agree on the protests no go TJ - thinking that our points are more likely to come from the other games is part and parcel of the whole damn reason we are where we are, and is some of the worst advise I have ever heard and go towards making it worse than it already is.

I totally hate this way of thinking - even at the beginning of a season (hence my reason for not liking the way Sam set up for games)it should not even be thought of.

I will repeat until my last days that every game, especially home games, should be set out to be won whoever the opposition is - and the game Monday even moreso given the situation at the moment.

A win puts us in a better position and will breath confidence - defeat will only make the players/ fans and anybody else remotely interested more downtrod and lead to things being done that wouldn't normally happen or prevent staying 'calm' as you want.

Every single game has to be won until the next regardless!!

[Mattyblue]

Exactly CK, we don't have enough games left to be going, 'well no bother, we'll concentrate on beating West Ham and Bolton'.

We had 'winnable games' against Birmingham and Blackpool and won neither.

[jim mk2]

Also as Roversmum says, what do we hope to achieve from any protest? If you are protesting you have to have some clear goals and objectives.

The object is to let the the owners in India (who are watching hopefully) know that Rovers supporters are angry at their management of the club. Although Kean is the reason Rovers are in danger of relegation Venky's are responsible for this mess. I'll be backing the team of course but if we go a few goals down and give the sort of vapid performance on show at Goodison I don't see any point in holding back. Mrs Desai needs to know how we feel.

[TimmyJimmy]

Although I agree on the protests no go TJ - thinking that our points are more likely to come from the other games is part and parcel of the whole damn reason we are where we are, and is some of the worst advise I have ever heard and go towards making it worse than it already is.

I totally hate this way of thinking - even at the beginning of a season (hence my reason for not liking the way Sam set up for games)it should not even be thought of.

I will repeat until my last days that every game, especially home games, should be set out to be won whoever the opposition is - and the game Monday even moreso given the situation at the moment.

A win puts us in a better position and will breath confidence - defeat will only make the players/ fans and anybody else remotely interested more downtrod and lead to things being done that wouldn't normally happen or prevent staying 'calm' as you want.

Every single game has to be won until the next regardless!!

You're right Kayos, that bit came out all wrong. "We don't expect 3 points against ManC ... stay calm and carry on" wasn't meant to imply that we shouldn't try to win this, of course we should it's a game like any other and we're at home. I was trying to pre-empt the explosion that would undoubtedly follow if we lost this one and/or played badly. In the context of even if we get stuffed there's still other games (easier?) that we have to play and all is not lost, stay calm and don't give in to the urge to protest until the seasons over.

Like you I expect everyone to go B4LLS OUT in every match, nothing less will do. A Nelson style banner wouldn't go amiss at the match either "England The supporters expect that every man will do his duty"!

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Andy Cryers piece in todays LET:

Venkys and their new regime have to start getting real.

They have to understand what football fans in England want and they have so many questions to answer they should be residing in Blackburn this summer.

And here lieth the problem,its clearly NOT about what WE the fans want,do or say....its about publicity for the Roa's, and the promotion of their business Venky's.I firmly believe BRFC is not their main priority here and never has been in this takeover from day one,there is without doubt a huge and worrying conflict of interest here.

Superb post Paul a few pages back,you put into words exactly what most are thinking right now.

Mum,any protest is about showing the Roa's that we the fans are not happy with the way they are running the club,we cant keep quiet anymore kidding ourselves all is well while the club turns to shyte.The fans are the club and we have a right to be listened to.

[roversmum]

At the end of the season, yes. Untold damage could be done by protesting now. And I ask again, what do you hope the outcome of a protest will be?

If it's that the Rao family sack Kean, that is not going to happen.

If you want to protest against the Rao family, that can wait until the end of season.

[OJRovers]

19th March: Villa fans protest for Houllier to be sacked after defeat against Wolves left them one point above the relegation zone. (sound familiar?)

Since then they have played 3, won 2, drawn 1 and are now safe in 10th.

Anyone who says that protests NEVER work is wrong, in this case perhaps it gave the management/players a bit of a shock so they started to perform better. Kean is getting life very easy at the minute, and by admittance is not feeling under pressure, maybe a bit of pressure might give us a sense of urgency.

[RibbleValleyRover]

If it's that the Rao family sack Kean, that is not going to happen.

Why? Because they said he was 'safe'?

They said the same thing about Sam and a week later he was gone.

[jim mk2]

At the end of the season, yes. Untold damage could be done by protesting now. And I ask again, what do you hope the outcome of a protest will be?

If it's that the Rao family sack Kean, that is not going to happen.

If you want to protest against the Rao family, that can wait until the end of season.

Haven't they done enough damage already ?

The object is to let the the owners in India (who are watching hopefully) know that Rovers supporters are angry at their management of the club. Although Kean is the reason Rovers are in danger of relegation Venky's are responsible for this mess. I'll be backing the team of course but if we go a few goals down and give the sort of vapid performance on show at Goodison I don't see any point in holding back. Mrs Desai needs to know how we feel.

[Mattyblue]

At the end of the season, yes. Untold damage could be done by protesting now. And I ask again, what do you hope the outcome of a protest will be?

If it's that the Rao family sack Kean, that is not going to happen.

If you want to protest against the Rao family, that can wait until the end of season.

What does this 'end of season' involve though mum? And where and when? And who will see it/be listening at that time?

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

At the end of the season, yes. Untold damage could be done by protesting now. And I ask again, what do you hope the outcome of a protest will be?

If it's that the Rao family sack Kean, that is not going to happen.

If you want to protest against the Rao family, that can wait until the end of season.

Mum I have just told you,its about letting the Roa's know we the fans are not happy with how they are running the club that hopefully will be the outcome of the planned protest!

Wait until the end of season...what do you expect to do then.. where/how/when..I'm totally baffled by this thinking?.

Sky and the full media show will be in town Monday night.....lets make a point very clear, we are going to support the lads during the game then AFTER (even if the points are in the bag) we will make our feelings known.I dont see any harm done there.

[Andy]

Haven't they done enough damage already ?

The object is to let the the owners in India (who are watching hopefully) know that Rovers supporters are angry at their management of the club. Although Kean is the reason Rovers are in danger of relegation Venky's are responsible for this mess. I'll be backing the team of course but if we go a few goals down and give the sort of vapid performance on show at Goodison I don't see any point in holding back. Mrs Desai needs to know how we feel.

Agreed.

What's the point in being passive at this vital, vital stage of the season?

Why lie down and just watch the side head for what appears to be nailed-on relegation, on 2011 form?

As for the public backing of Kean, as stated above, the same backing was given to Sam and he was gone before you knew it - so I wouldn't read much into Venky's vote of confidence.

Now is not too late, or too early, to let the owners know how we feel.

During the game, support the lads of course, but afterwards is the time we need to make the point that we're not happy with what is happening.

I genuinely don't see how anyone would want to sit back and just let it all unravel in front of us.

[roversmum]

I understand all that, but what happened when Sam left and do you want a repeat of that? You could end up with the tea lady in charge of the team...

[broadsword]

I thought we already had that.

[jim mk2]

I understand all that, but what happened when Sam left and do you want a repeat of that? You could end up with the tea lady in charge of the team...

Tea lady could not do worse than the present incumbent.

I don't understand why you think protests should be postponed to the end of the season.

Where and when would they take place - and how would you attract Venky's attention ?

The time to protest is now - over the next 5 games while they're watching from India

The likelihood is we're going down anyway and even if we don't the owners need to hear how we feel.

In 4 short months they've screwed up our club and they need to be told.

[tony gale's mic]

I understand all that, but what happened when Sam left and do you want a repeat of that? You could end up with the tea lady in charge of the team...

We havent won since January.

[Claytons Left Boot]

Folk on here can ask all they like for no protest against Citeh but, assuming we go a couple down, all hell will be let loose. Yes, the whole Rovers section of the crowd will back the team to the hilt to start with but if the aforementioned happens there will be 'during the game protests' against both Kean and Venkys. Talking to fans in and around town, everyone has had enough and it feels like a powder keg situation waiting to go off. The 'let's send an e-mail' brigade are going to be very disappointed. It goes without saying that I sincerely hope we either win or draw.

[TimmyJimmy]

Folk on here can ask all they like for no protest against Citeh but, assuming we go a couple down, all hell will be let loose. Yes, the whole Rovers section of the crowd will back the team to the hilt to start with but if the aforementioned happens there will be 'during the game protests' against both Kean and Venkys. Talking to fans in and around town, everyone has had enough and it feels like a powder keg situation waiting to go off. The 'let's send an e-mail' brigade are going to be very disappointed. It goes without saying that I sincerely hope we either win or draw.

Well no one can say that this has not been fully debated and all the angles explored. At the end of the day it's up to each to make their own call, at least you walk into the decision knowing what's at stake. I don't have anything else to say or add to what's been discussed except that my personal conviction remains that if you choose to protest during the match that will be the end of us for a very long time. I respect your views and your passion for the club, I guess we all have to follow our consciences.

[roversactive]

I can't understand why people want to protest now, with 5 games to go. So close to the end of the season. To me it would seem sensible to get behind the team, the club, and get the wins we need to stay in the Premier League. To me, clearing out the manager and his staff now would be an even bigger gamble then not.

There is no guarantee that Big Sam would have kept us up, we could well have been in the same position - our drubbing at Man United, and some other bad results under Sam suggested that we would have a long hard season.

I understand that people are frustrated, but it just seems badly timed. We need our fans to continue creating an atmosphere on match-day that will motivate everyone to want to win!

I think that Bryan Douglas talks a lot of sense in the LEP.