[Archived] Phil Jones

[modes98]

Jones signing Manchester United shirts outside the U21 training ground. What a classy young man the Jones' have raised.

What does it matter really?

The transfer is going to happen. Plus if he refused to sign people would say he was too big for his boots, etc.

[Jonnolad]

Your point isn't valid though. So because fans don't cheer player they are not loyal. Can't win can we? You're talking crap, just accept it. There are plenty of loyal fans at BRFC. You just choose not to see it. What about the people who spend a sizeable part of their income going to every home & away game. Are they not loyal? Or the ones travelling to Hong Kong in July? Can we presume none of them are loyal?

Of course they are loyal, but these acts of loyalty are being completely spoilt by the booing of Andrews.

That's what the players have to live with day in day out. They are with the same team mates day in day out, training with them, travelling to matches with them. If you think the booing of Andrews is a minor thing to them then you are very much wrong.

Some dude travelling to Hong Kong to see them is ace, but it will in no way counter what they think of the fans when Keith puts on our shirt in the games that matter.

[Exiled_Rover]

What does it matter really?

The transfer is going to happen. Plus if he refused to sign people would say he was too big for his boots, etc.

In the same way Ashton posed with a Northampton shirt despite still being under contract with Wigan. Just shows what an absolute tosser he is.

[nellybc]

Is it just me with issues but how can he play for england if we dont know who he belongs too ?? If he were to suffer an injury, is he a manure player or a blackburn player ??

I know it probably wont matter but why do these things take so long and not a word from rovers??

[malk]

Maybe this will come across as bitter and uncharitable but I do sincerely hope Jones doesn't get applause when he comes back to Ewood. Certainly not boos but for a "fan" of the club to a) insist on a release clause and leave at 19 after just 40 appearances for the club, well, he's just any other player now.

[Mattyblue]

I think some fans need a hate figure in their lives. They can't help it.

£17m, if that's the agreed sum, could be very well spent in other areas of the pitch. He's 19, played 20 games for us last season, got a dodgy knee... £17m is fine by me.

I don't hate him, its the game that I am increasingly starting to hate.

[trs]

VINJAY

Told ya yesterday he had well and truly lost it. What in Gods name is that all about?

[Mattyblue]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13713913.stm

[ben_the_beast]

I don't hate him, its the game that I am increasingly starting to hate.

Agreed. Where are we going. What is the point. I remember a few years back taking offense to an obnoxious friend stating that all the teams outside the select top few are just there to make up the numbers.

But to be honest that is all we seem to do these days. There is no room for aspirations, progression or dreams. The league we play in is so imbalanced, designed to favor the teams at the top that as soon as a ray of hope occurs we are bullied. Given a quick kick and our sweets snatched off of us.

It was to be expected. I don't feel angry as I'm nullified to much of it now. The only way to get to the top is to spend big. Even that is without feeling. The soulless Manchester City way. The passion I've felt in recent times is fighting for our lives. To stay and make up the numbers.

I am a passionate person too. But money ruins everything.

[Ferrit]

Told ya yesterday he had well and truly lost it. What in Gods name is that all about?

The guy is well and truly deluded.

[Tom]

Told ya yesterday he had well and truly lost it. What in Gods name is that all about?

It sums him up he started supporting us around 1995, wonder why.

He is convinced Rovers fans used to chant 'We only hate Man United' guys just a massive idiot.

[slough_rover]

Sick at the sight of him signing Utd kits before he has officially signed.

[Mattyblue]

Paul Ince- 1988.

[LeChuck]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13713913.stm

Time will tell.

What is true though is that very few central defenders anywhere in the world move for that kind of money. To be a bargain he'll have to become one of the very best in the world. It's no certainty that he will.

[DeadlyDirk]

I don't hate him, its the game that I am increasingly starting to hate.

You still love the game, sad thing is that the game is only played in local parks and school pitches. The thing you watch from the stands or on the tv is a business and nothing more.

Football as we knew died a long time ago.

[trs]

You still love the game, sad thing is that the game is only played in local parks and school pitches. The thing you watch from the stands or on the tv is a business and nothing more.

Football as we knew died a long time ago.

You know that really is an excellent point. I know of one or two who have watched Chorley on more than one occasion last season and had nothing but glowing reports. In the main I think they just enjoyed the "game" for what it was and is!

After just over 40 years of it all my heart is telling me one thing and my head another.

Oh and DD you forgot the words soap opera alongside business!

[DeadlyDirk]

You know that really is an excellent point. I know of one or two who have watched Chorley on more than one occasion last season and had nothing but glowing reports. In the main I think they just enjoyed the "game" for what it was and is!

After just over 40 years of it all my heart is telling me one thing and my head another.

Oh and DD you forgot the words soap opera alongside business!

It was probably in the last 12 months maybe 18 I realised how much I don't like football anymore. Well at least the high levels anyway. It mainly stemmed from the shambolic performance from the national team who I once cared so much about. I still love Rovers as a club but it's hard to give a toss about any other club or even most of our own players, they're all a bunch of overpaid, overhyped tossers. Their either being paid mega bucks, moaning about something, blaming others, drink driving, assaulting people, cheating on wives and friends the lot.

Hard to care about any of it anymore, ever since I stopped working for Football Manager and didn't need to be on the know about everything I found it more entertaining to simply watch the odd games and try and enjoy it while you can, once you start reading into everything and thinking too much about the money and greed etc it becomes a mind f**k.

Only came back on here yesterday to see if there was any truth in the Phil to Manure rumours I read on Sky Sports. Easy to get dragged back into it all again!

I'm not the most vocal of posters but trust me when I say I was as passionate about football as I was about Rovers but almost overnight one day enough was enough and I just thought sod them all. It's not that I don't care about Rovers anymore but I have stopped worrying long ago about who might come, who might go, who's right for the job etc, I just let them get on with it and I'll support the 11 players that take to the pitch on a Saturday. (Or Tuesday afternoon, Thursday at 4am, whatever suits Sky etc) If we ended up getting relegated down to League 2 or something it wouldn't be the end of the world, it would probably be the beginning of enjoying football again for me.

[gumboots]

You know that really is an excellent point. I know of one or two who have watched Chorley on more than one occasion last season and had nothing but glowing reports. In the main I think they just enjoyed the "game" for what it was and is!

After just over 40 years of it all my heart is telling me one thing and my head another.

Oh and DD you forgot the words soap opera alongside business!

My daughter worked on Late Kick Off in the Yorkshire and Lincs region and went to some fantastic matches, full of goals and excitement. She also found that fans seemed to enjoy the football more and were still close to it, unlike most premier league clubs where the club and players are increasingly detached from the fans. Witness Huddersfield chairman, Dean Hoyle taking his son with the fans on a charity bike ride to Brighton to watch the match and you know that football does still have a lot to offer - it's just that the top end spoill it for so many others. The great god is the Champions League and the riches it brings and the rest of us can rot for all they care.

[Steve Moss]

I regret that P. Jones decided to leave the Rovers. I really hoped he would have stuck around and set an example for the footballing world. That said, his reasons are obvious. I can't fault them. In the end, money talks. I just wish he hadn't listened.

Regardless, best wishes to him and may he thrive.

Now we have to see what Venkys/Anderson/Kean do with the transfer fee. I hope the money is re-invested in the club and quality is brought to strengthen areas we've been weak before. But buying RSC, as has been bandied about, would not be a positive indicator of either their judgment or ability, in my opinion. But I'll try to remain positive over the next few weeks.

[T.J.Newton]

Im guessing all of the 1st team players will be after higher wages now(samba inparticular if hes doesnt leave) having heard how much they where prepared to offer jones.

Hoilet needs to sign a new contract asap but having hearing they where prepared to offer a 19 year old defender(no matter how good) 65k, how much do you think hell be requesting!

[DP]

Terrific post Deadly Dirk. And in a strange way it's kind of cheered me up////

[Kelbo]

It was probably in the last 12 months maybe 18 I realised how much I don't like football anymore. Well at least the high levels anyway. It mainly stemmed from the shambolic performance from the national team who I once cared so much about. I still love Rovers as a club but it's hard to give a toss about any other club or even most of our own players, they're all a bunch of overpaid, overhyped tossers. Their either being paid mega bucks, moaning about something, blaming others, drink driving, assaulting people, cheating on wives and friends the lot.

Hard to care about any of it anymore, ever since I stopped working for Football Manager and didn't need to be on the know about everything I found it more entertaining to simply watch the odd games and try and enjoy it while you can, once you start reading into everything and thinking too much about the money and greed etc it becomes a mind f**k.

Only came back on here yesterday to see if there was any truth in the Phil to Manure rumours I read on Sky Sports. Easy to get dragged back into it all again!

I'm not the most vocal of posters but trust me when I say I was as passionate about football as I was about Rovers but almost overnight one day enough was enough and I just thought sod them all. It's not that I don't care about Rovers anymore but I have stopped worrying long ago about who might come, who might go, who's right for the job etc, I just let them get on with it and I'll support the 11 players that take to the pitch on a Saturday. (Or Tuesday afternoon, Thursday at 4am, whatever suits Sky etc) If we ended up getting relegated down to League 2 or something it wouldn't be the end of the world, it would probably be the beginning of enjoying football again for me.

Great post and strangely enough I was at one point hoping for us to be relegated, to be able to compete, to know we had the chance of winning each game, to be challenging and getting young loan players from the top clubs who were trying to push on in the game, in many ways it was more exciting in the lower leagues, many a game we would walk to the ground with players, have a laugh on the way, enjoy the game the way it used to be, players really on the same wavelength as supporters. I can fully understand your comments and you are 100% correct in what you say.

[T.J.Newton]

i also feel the sam way DEADLY DIRK, only i started feeling this way years ago, probably in the mid 2000s when things started getting beyond stupid at chelsea with the amounts they where spending on players that where above average at best, its now gone even more ridiculess with what shity city are doing.

for the last few years ive only been interested in blackburn im not interested in any other team at all who wins the league ect.....who cares, allthough i do/did have a soft spot for newcastle(steming from the keagan era) but even they seem to have settled on just being an average mid table team.

[Mc Love]

It was probably in the last 12 months maybe 18 I realised how much I don't like football anymore. Well at least the high levels anyway. It mainly stemmed from the shambolic performance from the national team who I once cared so much about. I still love Rovers as a club but it's hard to give a toss about any other club or even most of our own players, they're all a bunch of overpaid, overhyped tossers. Their either being paid mega bucks, moaning about something, blaming others, drink driving, assaulting people, cheating on wives and friends the lot.

Hard to care about any of it anymore, ever since I stopped working for Football Manager and didn't need to be on the know about everything I found it more entertaining to simply watch the odd games and try and enjoy it while you can, once you start reading into everything and thinking too much about the money and greed etc it becomes a mind f**k.

Only came back on here yesterday to see if there was any truth in the Phil to Manure rumours I read on Sky Sports. Easy to get dragged back into it all again!

I'm not the most vocal of posters but trust me when I say I was as passionate about football as I was about Rovers but almost overnight one day enough was enough and I just thought sod them all. It's not that I don't care about Rovers anymore but I have stopped worrying long ago about who might come, who might go, who's right for the job etc, I just let them get on with it and I'll support the 11 players that take to the pitch on a Saturday. (Or Tuesday afternoon, Thursday at 4am, whatever suits Sky etc) If we ended up getting relegated down to League 2 or something it wouldn't be the end of the world, it would probably be the beginning of enjoying football again for me.

Agreed totally DD - feel exactly the same way. It has also given me the opportunity to get to more Rugby games - if you want a comparison, use Rugby. Totally different kettle of fish but there is some soccerisms coming in - all you have to do is look at the likes of Gavin Henson.

Rovers is and always be my favourite football club though

[Jonnolad]

It was probably in the last 12 months maybe 18 I realised how much I don't like football anymore. Well at least the high levels anyway. It mainly stemmed from the shambolic performance from the national team who I once cared so much about. I still love Rovers as a club but it's hard to give a toss about any other club or even most of our own players, they're all a bunch of overpaid, overhyped tossers. Their either being paid mega bucks, moaning about something, blaming others, drink driving, assaulting people, cheating on wives and friends the lot.

Hard to care about any of it anymore, ever since I stopped working for Football Manager and didn't need to be on the know about everything I found it more entertaining to simply watch the odd games and try and enjoy it while you can, once you start reading into everything and thinking too much about the money and greed etc it becomes a mind f**k.

Only came back on here yesterday to see if there was any truth in the Phil to Manure rumours I read on Sky Sports. Easy to get dragged back into it all again!

I'm not the most vocal of posters but trust me when I say I was as passionate about football as I was about Rovers but almost overnight one day enough was enough and I just thought sod them all. It's not that I don't care about Rovers anymore but I have stopped worrying long ago about who might come, who might go, who's right for the job etc, I just let them get on with it and I'll support the 11 players that take to the pitch on a Saturday. (Or Tuesday afternoon, Thursday at 4am, whatever suits Sky etc) If we ended up getting relegated down to League 2 or something it wouldn't be the end of the world, it would probably be the beginning of enjoying football again for me.

Bizarre, I've been getting disillusioned myself - it was last year as well too.

For me it's the arbitrary rules and decisions which FIFA seemingly don't want to do anything about. We have so many games decided by bad decisions that it's just bizarre and infuriating. What other sport has that? It just made me think; how could you not want to do anything about that when you actually could. It's wrong. It's especially galling that the world's governing body is so obviously corrupt as well.

There's obviously the unevenly playing field as well. What can any team apart from the major ones really hope to achieve in a season. A good cup run? Not get relegated? As my wife pointed out, it's like a game of monopoly where someone starts out with all the money.

I still don't mind footy, and I love Rovers and always will, but it's Darts for me as my primary sport these days; no egos, categorically no bad decisions, a level playing field for everyone and it's more exciting to be honest.