[Archived] Phil Jones

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Jason Lowe turns down a £3m move to Birmingham out of his love for Rovers. Do the fans applaud him for his loyalty or will we find unsavoury comments about needing that money for someone better? Does the concept of loyalty only work if the player's highly rated?

You're talking about player-fan loyalty there though, my criticism of Jones is based on player-club loyalty. Rovers have treated Lowe well, he's responded in kind. Its nice when the fans join in the feelings of goodwill but we're also customers at the end of the day, I don't think our loyalty is a pre-requisite of the other 2 parties displaying it.

[G Somerset Rover]

I don't understand why so many people are down on Jason Lowe. He's one of few Championship level players going with England to the U21 tournament. He's obviously rated outside of Blackburn.

Quite a lot of people last season were saying get some academy lads in to replace Murphy etc because at least they would get to see players playing for the shirt. Well we've got a young lad doing that already and he gets cut no slack whatsoever.

The stick is undeserved agreed as he always puts in 110%, but Le Chuck he is a terrible footballer WITH the ball.

[roversfan99]

Probably because he has no football brain, he panics on the ball, he runs around but doesn't get the ball back when the opponent has it, has no goalscoring threat, and is generally technically very poor.

[Sparky Marky]

3m? Turned Down???

[thenodrog]

Think it through Sparky.

[FourLaneBlue]

The lad´s 21 years old. Let´s see how he does for a few years before writing him off. There are countless examples of players developing into far better players during the course of their careers. Lowe has shown a lot of potential and if, say by 25, he has not improved THEN one can start to fully judge him as a mature footballer.

Give a young lad a chance.

[Sparky Marky]

Think it through Sparky.

You got me.

[McClarky]

The player/fan loyalty thing works only 1 way because we have an emotional stake in the club which in most cases the players don't have, and why should they? For a player the club is an employer and if they get a better offer somewhere else why shouldn't they have the right to take it like any other employee? They may be highly paid but they do have the basic human right to work for who they want to.

[Stuart]

Just watching the Brazil England match.

I think they're showing a replay from 1970 though!

What's with the orange ball?

[ABBEY]

its snowing

[perthblue02]

Just watching the Brazil England match.

I think they're showing a replay from 1970 though!

What's with the orange ball?

A tribute to Paul Agnew's sun tan? probably a new Nike ball that needs advertising

Something vaguely nostalgic about a goal being scored by somebody called Fred

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Find it hilarious that the reason we are sh1t against a side ranked 9 below us is that we're tired!! They are on 100000 grand per week, playing in 75 degree heat being watched by beautiful people, and can stay there after! And then Chamberlain scores!!!!

[jim mk2]

Jeff Astle just missed an open goal.

[Stuart]

A tribute to Paul Agnew's sun tan? probably a new Nike ball that needs advertising

Something vaguely nostalgic about a goal being scored by somebody called Fred

Ah, yes, good old Frederico Chaves Guedes. I can just imagine him in his clogs and flat cap kicking a tin can down t'back alley.

[perthblue02]

Ah, yes, good old Frederico Chaves Guedes. I can just imagine him in his clogs and flat cap kicking a tin can down t'back alley.

Disappointing that the celebration wasn't a brisk handshake with his team mates instead of all that girly hugging

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Feckin hell, we're winning!

[perthblue02]

Feckin hell, we're winning!

Scolari out! oops Scolari back in

[Proudtobeblue&white]

And now we are not, 2-2!

[Stuart]

Scolari out! oops Scolari back in

Anything but a Brazil win and he'll been on the blower with an SOS to Senhor Kean.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Good result, Brazil aren't the force they were, but we looked liked we were on a hiding first half. Jones doesn't look out of place (see how I got back on thread, knob!)

[Salgado Is A Hero]

Brazil need to sort it out before the World Cup. I used to love watching them, now they're best players are in defence.

[LeChuck]

They don't have the world class attacking players that they used to. Oscar looks llike their biggest threat but he's not even one of Chelsea's best players. They used to have Ronaldinho, Ronaldo and Rivaldo as their front 3 and they could have got in any team in the world. Now it's Fred, Neymar and Hulk. Nowhere near the same class.

[roverandout]

credit where credits due, I think England are pants but we have drawn and beaten brazil in the last few months

[Salgado Is A Hero]

They don't have the world class attacking players that they used to. Oscar looks llike their biggest threat but he's not even one of Chelsea's best players. They used to have Ronaldinho, Ronaldo and Rivaldo as their front 3 and they could have got in any team in the world. Now it's Fred, Neymar and Hulk. Nowhere near the same class.

I know it's a shame isn't it. Oscar did look their best threat tonight but like you say, not even one of Chelsea's best players, Lucas Moura looked like he had something about him when I watched them play Scotland at the Emirates, Neymar did as well tbh. My brother tells me that Bernard is really highly rated but the standard of defending in the Brazilian league is quite poor so you could never tell.

But the three you mentioned, plus Romario are some of the best players of the last generation. Now only Thiago Silva and Dani Alves would be considered for a World XI.

[Sparky Marky]

I like Ramires...is he injured?

Countinho will be playing for them by next year I reckon.