[Archived] Goal Line Tech

[dazmaz]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12098_6911899,00.html

Fifa have announced a two-stage testing programme for goalline technology as the pressure builds for its introduction.

Fifa changed their stance last year after Frank Lampard's disallowed goal in the World Cup for England in their defeat to Germany.

The Chelsea midfielder was also at the centre of the latest controversy this weekend when he was awarded a goal against Tottenham even though the whole of the ball had not crossed the line.

World football's governing body now accept the need for goalline technology, if companies can demonstrate complete reliability.

Prototype systems will need to have 90 per cent accuracy rates in order to get through the first phase, which will take place between September and December, and then return a 100 per cent rate in the second - between March and June next year.

Companies have until June 3 to register their interest with Fifa, who will share the costing of the testing, while each firm can select which stadium they would like the tests to take place.

A Fifa statement read: "A higher volume of tests will be conducted to ensure a more precise evaluation of the fitness of a technology and to provide a full statistical analysis.

Match scenarios

"This will include more simulated match scenarios as well as other factors including: software reliability; transmission signal quality; performance under changing weather conditions as well as on different pitch surfaces."

The tests will be divided into three parts - shots into an empty net, 'dynamic' tests against a wall in front then behind the line, and also 'static' tests with a ball placed on a sledge and moved at slow motion across the line.

For each test, an immediate signal that the ball has crossed the line must be sent to a referee's watch.

The International FA Board, the game's law-making body, will be presented with the results of the testing at a special meeting in July 2012, and successful systems could be in place for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.

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[Stuart]

Sounds like they're trying to make it too complicated. Sending a signal to the referees watch??

Just do like they do in cricket or rugby. Imagine the excitement waiting for the referral to come up on the big screen!

Wouldn't be surprised if this trial fails and is used as an excuse to put the matter to bed.

[Mattyblue]

Exactly Jisty.

Video ref/4th official looks at it, yay or nay.

[Guest roverite1991]

FFS FIFA!!! Just use your eyes!!! Hell, Gary feckin Linekar, the Preston Moptop and the Balding Alans have the technology. Just use THAT stuff!!

[rebelmswar]

Flashing light on the goals and a blaring siren would be fantasic.

Chip in skin of ball chips in each post.

[Stuart]

I was a bit lost there, reb. Trying to work out what "ball chips" were, let alone their skin. Probably just me!

[rebelmswar]

Microchips, you know the things computers eat fir dinner.

[Seggie]

Sounds like they're trying to make it too complicated. Sending a signal to the referees watch??

Just do like they do in cricket or rugby. Imagine the excitement waiting for the referral to come up on the big screen!

Wouldn't be surprised if this trial fails and is used as an excuse to put the matter to bed.

I suspect it has something to do with that if the ball doesn't cross the line were does play start again. If the signal goes to the refs watch the ref will presumably feel it every time a goal is scored and he will be instantly be able to give the goal without relying on a review. You have to remember in Rugby the game is stop start and if no try is given it doesn't effect the flow of the game as it will restart in accordence with the rules same with Cricket. If such a thing was to happen in football would you give a corner/goalkick/dropball either way you are going to have one team very disadvantaged if a goal isn't given.

[Stuart]

I suspect it has something to do with that if the ball doesn't cross the line were does play start again. If the signal goes to the refs watch the ref will presumably feel it every time a goal is scored and he will be instantly be able to give the goal without relying on a review. You have to remember in Rugby the game is stop start and if no try is given it doesn't effect the flow of the game as it will restart in accordence with the rules same with Cricket. If such a thing was to happen in football would you give a corner/goalkick/dropball either way you are going to have one team very disadvantaged if a goal isn't given.

My view is that technology could be used for any dubious goal. Only once a "goal" is scored or claimed (in the case of over the line decisions), if there is an element of doubt as to whether a goal should be awarded, it gets referred. The key point being that it is still down to the referees judgement to refer or not. Technology should assist, not replace the referee. Frivolous referrals could be penalised in some way to avoid it being abused.

It can't be any worse than the white elephants that are the goal line officials.

As for restating play, no goal = goal kick. Or in the case of off-side normal free kick applies.

[dave birch]

I suspect it has something to do with that if the ball doesn't cross the line were does play start again. If the signal goes to the refs watch the ref will presumably feel it every time a goal is scored and he will be instantly be able to give the goal without relying on a review. You have to remember in Rugby the game is stop start and if no try is given it doesn't effect the flow of the game as it will restart in accordence with the rules same with Cricket. If such a thing was to happen in football would you give a corner/goalkick/dropball either way you are going to have one team very disadvantaged if a goal isn't given.

You can have a restart from a kick anywhere inside the six yard box, same as a goalkick. There is no disadvantage to the attacking side as the ball would (presumably) be in the possession of the defending side, as they would be claiming that the ball didn't cross the line.

[OscarRaven]

Has to be instant and consistant with the rules... the watch technology isn't so difficult. Although lacks transparancy.... disturbingly.

[greco]

it does make you wonder, why it has to be so complicated.

they need not look any furhter then tennis or icehockey, both sports have systems implemented, that works quite well and without over-complicating things.

[A cup of beans]

it does make you wonder, why it has to be so complicated.

they need not look any furhter then tennis or icehockey, both sports have systems implemented, that works quite well and without over-complicating things.

maybe as football is played in all weathers, all weather conditions have to be tested ?

just a thought.

[American Rover12]

Flashing light on the goals and a blaring siren would be fantastic.

Chip in skin of ball; chips in each post.

If they're going this route with the automatic signal, then I think they need to go all the way hockey style with it. Lights, sirens, let everyone know right away it's a goal.

[dcbrfc]

Reckon part of thee difficulty is implementation. How far down does the new technology have to go? All the way to League Two? Just the Premier League? Similar to terraced grounds having to put seats in if they go into the Championship, which causes financial problems (Scunthorpe United were panicking but relegation put paid to any problems they had there).

[thenodrog]

Man Utd'd influence is amazing. If we'd been the victim of that Gomez rick I doubt it would even have been chosen in our 3 min highlights on MoTD.

[dazmaz]

Man Utd'd influence is amazing. If we'd been the victim of that Gomez rick I doubt it would even have been chosen in our 3 min highlights on MoTD.

Erm it was against Chelsea

It is needed, but surely it doesn't have to be so complicated