[Archived] Season Ticket Prices 2011/12

[Stuart]

which part of soey time stopped you from going? Europe? Winning silverware ? And yet you come back for the chicken dippers and a drink driving puppet?

My money's on the tash-removal.

I wouldn't back on a reply either. I've heard from a good source that he's had you on ignore since the Wolves game!

[Paul]

12/10 for bob fleming. Genius as ever.

[ABBEY]

My money's on the tash-removal.

I wouldn't back on a reply either. I've heard from a good source that he's had you on ignore since the Wolves game!

ha

[thenodrog]

At the end of the day Theno it's your choice to renew or not.But I will say one thing,by not renewing you are potentially harming the club you purport to support.I agree with some of your comment's but its my view that by turning away you are helping nobody at BRFC.

That is your perogative but it's sure as hell not my wish.

As far as it stands at the moment if I write another cheque of £395 to BRFC I may as well make it straight out to Venkeys. To date they have spent little of their own money, sold our most valuable asset and borrowed money against the club.

I'll turn your statement around if I may. If you want to give money to the the pony tailed, pistol packing Venkey mob then that is your prerogative, but it's sure as hell not my wish.

Has that affected your viewp;oint at all SG?

[gumboots]

As far as it stands at the moment if I write another cheque of £395 to BRFC I may as well make it straight out to Venkeys. To date they have spent little of their own money, sold our most valuable asset and borrowed money against the club.

I'll turn your statement around if I may. If you want to give money to the the pony tailed, pistol packing Venkey mob then that is your prerogative, but it's sure as hell not my wish.

Has that affected your viewp;oint at all SG?

Unfortunately gordon the 2, Venkeys and our club, are inextricably linked at the moment. I'd prefer my money to be spent on players, groundstaff, tealadies, a proper chairman, a good manager, but without cash going into the club, it is the club, not the owners who will really suffer. They are not going to leave just because we want them to and if they do they will want cash out of it in some shape or form. I'm paying my season ticket cash to support the club I follow and to watch 16 or so matches next season. If it's another miserable season then so be it. Rovers stops being our club when we let it, not when owners who don't know how to run it take over.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Good on you theno...writing that cheque will be a character building exercise for you and much cheaper than Pleasington Golf course!

Once again I share your frustrations but I am convinced that turning away from the club is not the answer to our present problems.

I take some perverse comfort in the fact that we are not a Sheffield club,Leeds,Boro,Preston etc etc....they really must have worries greater than our's at present.

Has anybody any true figure as to how many ST have been sold to date?

[cruz]

I may be a bit crazy here but can I suggest those that want to renew do, and those that don't don't?

[thenodrog]

Good on you theno...writing that cheque will be a character building exercise for you and much cheaper than Pleasington Golf course!

Once again I share your frustrations but I am convinced that turning away from the club is not the answer to our present problems.

I take some perverse comfort in the fact that we are not a Sheffield club,Leeds,Boro,Preston etc etc....they really must have worries greater than our's at present.

Has anybody any true figure as to how many ST have been sold to date?

According to the LT poll at the time as well as the poll on this mboard 90% of supporters didn't want Allardyce sacked but he was.

The vast majority (excluding Rev Blue of course ) respected and trusted John Williams as Chairman and saw him as a safe pair of hands. He was summarily dismissed too. Ditto Tom Finn etc and along with long term board memnbers too.

2 people to every one (most of the latter will of course live 10 miles either way on the M65) want Steve Kean replaced with a football manager. He's still here.

Most supporters with even half a brain would be very scared of seeing debts loaded against the club rather than the owners, by the owners. It has been.

Most BRFC supporters were aghast and embarrassed at the names linked to the Venkeys as 'marquee signings' for the club. Illustrating just how out of touch they are with football reallity.

Most BRFC supporters were embarrassed by the stupid Top 4 claims. We became the butt of all manner of jokes across the nation.

There will be more of the same I can guarantee.

If you want something different to happen you have to do something different. Simply signing on again is just giving the Venkeys and their advisors a huge vote of confidence and a licence to continue their bull (elephant) in a china shop rampage which imo can only end in tears..... Ours.

[cruz]

I can see school children being embarrassed by the top 4 claims and player links when they are ribbed by their classmates but surely grown ups take it all with a pinch of salt

[gumboots]

According to the LT poll at the time as well as the poll on this mboard 90% of supporters didn't want Allardyce sacked but he was.

The vast majority (excluding Rev Blue of course ) respected and trusted John Williams as Chairman and saw him as a safe pair of hands. He was summarily dismissed too. Ditto Tom Finn etc and along with long term board memnbers too.

2 people to every one (most of the latter will of course live 10 miles either way on the M65) want Steve Kean replaced with a football manager. He's still here.

Most supporters with even half a brain would be very scared of seeing debts loaded against the club rather than the owners, by the owners. It has been.

Most BRFC supporters were aghast and embarrassed at the names linked to the Venkeys as 'marquee signings' for the club. Illustrating just how out of touch they are with football reallity.

Most BRFC supporters were embarrassed by the stupid Top 4 claims. We became the butt of all manner of jokes across the nation.

There will be more of the same I can guarantee.

If you want something different to happen you have to do something different. Simply signing on again is just giving the Venkeys and their advisors a huge vote of confidence and a licence to continue their bull (elephant) in a china shop rampage which imo can only end in tears..... Ours.

And failing to give my money achieves what exactly? It means I can't go to matches and sit in the seat I like sitting in. It means I will have to pay more over a season to attend fewer matches. It deprives me of something I enjoy and that we still like doing whenever possible as a family. It says little to the owners who must know that folk are not happy - how can they not - but don't seem to be able to take the simple steps to put it right.

[den]

And failing to give my money achieves what exactly?

Well it would tell the owners that you wont stand for the way they are running the club. I can't think of another way, that would make them sit up and think, more than people walking away from the club. How else can supporters make their views known effectively?

Complaints on m/b's and in the LT have made no difference whatsoever.

[thenodrog]

Well it would tell the owners that you wont stand for the way they are running the club. I can't think of another way, that would make them sit up and think, more than people walking away from the club. How else can supporters make their views known effectively?

Complaints on m/b's and in the LT have made no difference whatsoever.

Thank you den. Voting with your feet/wallet is the only thing that will have any effect on them imo. Every ST sale is a clear vote of confidence in them.

Gumboots if you want to retain any level of credibity you need to delete your previous post before your obviously bright kids demand a DNA test.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Vote with your feet and you hurt the club you support,vote with your wallet and you hurt the club you support.

There is NO fine line here between Venky's and B.R.F.C. you cannot punish one without the other reeling from the blow!

[Mattyblue]

Lets have it right, the money the club makes through ticket sales is miniscule compared to the TV monies. It is the statement the empty seats will make, more than the lost revenue.

To be honest, we need some accurate figures published otherwise this is all conjecture and hopefully the marketing team (if we still have one) will be chasing up non renewers and asking WHY.

[cletus]

Ok, fine. Those of you who are not prepared to come and support your club Blackburn Rovers*, that's your decision. Therefore, you are no longer a supporter of Blackburn Rovers in my view, and I am not interested in your opinion on anything concerning the club. Laters, see you, thanks and cheerio.

*this does not apply to anyone who cannot come for reasons of finance, family or distance.

To be quite honest mum, i couldn`t give a flying #### what you think or don`t think. Your opinion does not interest me. You do not run my household, pay my bills or work for my wage, so you cannot tell me where to spend it.

....As for Venkys, they as of yet have done absolutely zero to improve rovers on or off the pitch. In fact they`ve done quite the opposite.

They sacked a proven premiership manager & replaced him with an unproven rookie.

The took us from a safe top half league position to almost relegation in a matter of weeks.

They forced out one of the most respected chairmen in the game.

They`ve changed the image of the club from one envied by many to a near laughing stock in under 6months.

They haven`t improved anything as of yet.

They cannot even get a shirt sponsor or shirts actually in the shops.

They can`t attract proper decent players, cos nobody is taking them seriously (because of their amateurism)

I have no faith in these amateurs.

I refuse to bankroll such people until they start to do things better

I will not blindly follow, due to a sense of duty.

If Venkys start to address their terrible & amateurish (so far) venture into owning a football club & start earning the respect of the people of Blackburn by doing things right, then i will start to show a bit of faith in them by handing over my hard earned cash. Until then they can kiss my big hairy swingers.

[cruz]

Iirc under the Walker Trust new shirts usually went on general sale about 1 week AFTER the season started so as yet Venkys haven't done any worse but why let that get in the way of a good bitch?

[den]

Vote with your feet and you hurt the club you support,vote with your wallet and you hurt the club you support.

There is NO fine line here between Venky's and B.R.F.C. you cannot punish one without the other reeling from the blow!

Well I've renewed SG, but I must admit it felt as though I was offering support to a bunch of people who couldn't have done more harm if they had tried. Why did I renew? - I honestly don't know, bit it's probably down to Rovers being ingrained in me.

Point is, if people think not renewing is their way of saying to the owners "change your ways, I don't support this", then I respect that. In the long run, it might be seen to be for the best - who knows?

Asking for blind support isn't reasonable or realistic anyway.

[yeti-dog]

According to the LT poll at the time as well as the poll on this mboard 90% of supporters didn't want Allardyce sacked but he was.

The vast majority (excluding Rev Blue of course ) respected and trusted John Williams as Chairman and saw him as a safe pair of hands. He was summarily dismissed too. Ditto Tom Finn etc and along with long term board memnbers too.

2 people to every one (most of the latter will of course live 10 miles either way on the M65) want Steve Kean replaced with a football manager. He's still here.

Most supporters with even half a brain would be very scared of seeing debts loaded against the club rather than the owners, by the owners. It has been.

Most BRFC supporters were aghast and embarrassed at the names linked to the Venkeys as 'marquee signings' for the club. Illustrating just how out of touch they are with football reallity.

Most BRFC supporters were embarrassed by the stupid Top 4 claims. We became the butt of all manner of jokes across the nation.

There will be more of the same I can guarantee.

If you want something different to happen you have to do something different. Simply signing on again is just giving the Venkeys and their advisors a huge vote of confidence and a licence to continue their bull (elephant) in a china shop rampage which imo can only end in tears..... Ours.

Disgraceful post...call yourself a supporter.

And failing to give my money achieves what exactly? It means I can't go to matches and sit in the seat I like sitting in. It means I will have to pay more over a season to attend fewer matches. It deprives me of something I enjoy and that we still like doing whenever possible as a family. It says little to the owners who must know that folk are not happy - how can they not - but don't seem to be able to take the simple steps to put it right.

Now this is more like like it. Good on you gumboots.

[yeti-dog]

2 people to every one (most of the latter will of course live 10 miles either way on the M65) want Steve Kean replaced with a football manager. He's still here.

Actually theno,you're being disengenuous there...the true figures are currently 58% against 35% for, not 2-1 by any stretch but why not embellish a little to fit your own agenda eh.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Well I've renewed SG, but I must admit it felt as though I was offering support to a bunch of people who couldn't have done more harm if they had tried. Why did I renew? - I honestly don't know, bit it's probably down to Rovers being ingrained in me.

Yep,pretty much how I feel too Dennis.I'm frustrated but I know in my heart staying away will not make SG194 a happy Bunny and will not make one iota of difference to Venky's - so who wins at the end of the day?....its all down to personal choice.

[Paul]

Lets have it right, the money the club makes through ticket sales is miniscule compared to the TV monies. It is the statement the empty seats will make, more than the lost revenue.

Exactly right.

I've renewed, probably against my better judgement, as I'm not prepared to deny Tom one of his greatest pleasures in life to satisfy my concerns and need to demonstrate how I feel. If I didn't have Tom to think about I don't know if I'd be renewing or not. Which does make it rather easy for me to take the moral high ground - I am aware of this.

Those who chose not to renew have my full support, they are the ones with their eyes open, who can appreciate the damage which is being done. Though I must say while I agree with everything thenodrog has posted on this recently I think it wrong to encourage others not to renew. Those who demand blind optimism regardless of the situation frighten the life out of me. We simply do not have the financial resources to purchase and pay the wages of the players we are linked with. Rovers lost money in 2010, probably lost more in 2011 and do not have the income or the fan base to match the desires of the owners. How long is it since JW openly admitted Warnock was sold to balance the books? That is pay the wage bill.

I can't understand the attitude of those posting all the fantasy football stuff in the Transfer threads. Blackburn Rovers cannot afford to pay these players. Pure and simple. In some respects these fans expecting and approving of this outrageous action are more guilty of potentially harming the club than those withdrawing their STs. If we lose 5,000 ST holders it is roughly equal to 9 months salary for one player (5,000 x £300 = £1.5m). If we spend our rumoured budget the wage bill, already unsustainable, will become unmanageable.

Nicko tells us the current problems relate to money but doesn't say how. I just hope Venky's have come to their senses and realise none of this makes any financial sense whatsoever. We cannot compete with the big boys, any attempt to do so will fail as we cannot earn the cash to fund it. I don't care how BIG the Indian or Asian market it is, we'd need to sell between 1.5 and 2.5 million shirts at a profit of £20 each to fund the rumoured transfer budget for this season alone. The end result of this spending could be the demise of Rovers.

The numbers simply do not add up and the sooner the fantasy football fans realise this the better.

[gumboots]

Disgraceful post...call yourself a supporter.

Now this is more like like it. Good on you gumboots.

I wouldn't dream of telling anyone else how to spend their money, and I did think long and hard about whether to renew my ticket, because there are plenty of other demands on my cash, but not to renew if I could afford it wasn't an option. I didn't rush out and do it first day possible like some did but I did it with the full agreement of my family, as we all felt that we would not be driven out of supporting our club by anyone.

[imy9]

Theno- where does it say that the club is now saddled with debt and not the owners?

Nicko and Kamy have both said that any money being put into the club by the owners has not been borrowed (correct me if I am wrong). Currently they spent nearly £5 million in transfers in January, without selling. Now they have sold PJ for £16.5 million we are looking at £30 million investment- £10 million plus from them.

You predicted that "this lot" would push prices of season tickets up- they haven't.

As Yeti has said 58% is certainly not 1 in 2 and if you look at the LET poll its all in the detail "Do you think Sam Allardyce should have been sacked at the end of the season with an experienced manager coming in?" would have been more like 80% in favour.

Venkys own our club, get used to it. Oh how I miss the Trust selling players and then keeping most of it, funny how their broken promises are rarely highlighted.

I am in no way telling people what to spend their money on.

[Mattyblue]

And if you had have asked 'should Steve Kean (you know the first team coach) be appointed EVER' you would have got a 100% NO.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

I wouldn't dream of telling anyone else how to spend their money, and I did think long and hard about whether to renew my ticket, because there are plenty of other demands on my cash, but not to renew if I could afford it wasn't an option. I didn't rush out and do it first day possible like some did but I did it with the full agreement of my family, as we all felt that we would not be driven out of supporting our club by anyone.

HEAR! HEAR!!