Steve Kean's Hypnotoad Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Who are you to decide what people spend their money on? If i want to spend £30 a month on beer, fags, gambling, sky tv or a mobile phone, it`s totally up to myself. I earned the money & i`ll spend it how i wish to. At this moment in time i have decided NOT give my £30 a month to a bunch of clueless chicken farmers/con artists who are dragging the good name of Blackburn Rovers through the gutter with their inept handling of almost everything they touch. How will i spend that £30? well that`s totally up to me. I earned the money. I`ll spend it how i want. My conscience is clear. I`m not collaborating with Venkys. Not telling people to spend their money on anything, as you say its totally up to them. But find these "can't afford it" excuses tiresome. In the vast majority of cases the non-renewers are just fickle, disloyal and dismissive of our fantastic prices. It might upset you to be called that but sorry, thats what you are. "If the boot fits, wear it" I think the phrase is? As I said I doubt the deserters will be missed in terms of vocal support, I suppose the only bad thing will be that it might tell the club to stop bothering charging us half what everyone else pays seeing as its barely appreciated.
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Mattyblue Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Are you sure about that? Ground capacity 31367. JW IS 11000, BBE 8000, DE 8000, meaning the Riverside must be around 4000? Thought the JW was 10000 and the Riverside was 5000?
Glenn Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 ST numbers were mentioned at the FF last week, but obviously we can't disclose exactly what was said until the minutes are published (any day now), but the general vibe was better than most people expected. Minutes should be published any day any will hopefully contain more details (only2SGs, who does the minutes, has a knack for wording things in a way that is acceptable to both club and fans .... where as I don't so I've agreed to keep quiet until they are released).
den Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 My guess would be somewhere around 3000 down on deadline day - compared to the same time last season. and I would have said that a month ago. [don't ask for proof, because I don't have any].
Ben-2000 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Are you sure about that? Ground capacity 31367. JW IS 11000, BBE 8000, DE 8000, meaning the Riverside must be around 4000? 100% sure. Also remember the ST advert a couple of years back "5000 seats at £199 in the Riverside" Also the ground capacity is slightly lower as some seats were soon removed after the builds to accomodate TV camera's within the seating area's... you will see at least 3 of these where seats are missing (BBE & JW) Also the Darwen End is a couple of hundred or so lower than the BBE due to the middle fence and control box in the corner of S01 but that's clutching at straws as I know your figures were approx.
den Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 100% sure. Also remember the ST advert a couple of years back "5000 seats at £199 in the Riverside" I'm pretty sure that it's less than 5000. From that Wiki link earlier: The Riverside Stand is now the oldest part of the modern Ewood Park. It is the only single tiered stand in the ground, the seating spells out the word "ROVERS"- the club's nickname. The stand holds approximately 4000 spectators
AggyBlue Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I'm pretty sure that it's less than 5000. I'm pretty sure it's over 5000
Ben-2000 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I'm pretty sure that it's less than 5000. From that Wiki link earlier: The Riverside Stand is now the oldest part of the modern Ewood Park. It is the only single tiered stand in the ground, the seating spells out the word "ROVERS"- the club's nickname. The stand holds approximately 4000 spectators Right, done this another way... Looked on OneRovers (no I haven't counted the seats ) but there are 27 rows and 202 seats are on each = 5,454. There are no breaks in seat numbers at the ailes but there are upto 3 seats missing at each of the supporting pillars... the only other thing to take into consideration is that rows 1-13 start at seat no.2 - so looks like it holds around the 5,400 mark!
den Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Right, done this another way... Looked on OneRovers (no I haven't counted the seats ) but there are 27 rows and 202 seats are on each = 5,454. There are no breaks in seat numbers at the ailes but there are upto 3 seats missing at each of the supporting pillars... the only other thing to take into consideration is that rows 1-13 start at seat no.2 - so looks like it holds around the 5,400 mark! Well I can't think of any argument against that Ben. Fair do's my friend.
Ben-2000 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Well I can't think of any argument against that Ben. Fair do's my friend. That's actually more than I thought... thought it was just over 5k.
Paul Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Right, done this another way... Looked on OneRovers (no I haven't counted the seats ) but there are 27 rows and 202 seats are on each = 5,454. There are no breaks in seat numbers at the ailes but there are upto 3 seats missing at each of the supporting pillars... the only other thing to take into consideration is that rows 1-13 start at seat no.2 - so looks like it holds around the 5,400 mark! I'll give you that one........................you're nearly as sad as me.............. Only problem is this suggests we have sold a lower % of available seats than I estimated
only2garners Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I'm not quite as sad as you two (were you not watching the cycling Paul?), but I have looked back at the FF minutes for the last two years. In September 2009 the club told us they had sold around 18,500 season tickets. Last September they said they were around 600 below the previous season i.e. 17,900. Last week they said they were less than 10% behind where they were this time last year and that also quite a lot were sold late on last year. Philip's figure of 1,500 between now and the start of the season may be correct though my sense was that it was more. What is true is that tickets sold well into September last year to get to 17,900 - 80 were sold to people buying tickets for the Everton game for example. To me Paul's estimate feels about right. It fits in with what the club said last week. He may have underestimated the space available in the Riverside and he has probably exaggerated sales in the Darwen End, which we were told were selling slowly, but he may have underestimated sales in the Family Stand as there may be more sales there with the improved kids offer. We can probably expect faster sales in the Darwen End as we get to the first game of the season as people have no real incentive to buy before then as they have no seat to reserve. All in all, given the circumstances under which they have been sold, considerably better than I think anyone would have guessed.
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 So we can assume the club have sold around 16,000 to date...not too bad if true.
roversmum Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 So we can assume the club have sold around 16,000 to date...not too bad if true. Maybe one way of looking at it is that the fans are aware of the crisis at Rovers and turning out for their season tickets is their way of supporting the club. It's not a bad thing, because when the fans do 'lose it', there will hopefully be more of them joining the protest.
Paul Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 I'm not quite as sad as you two (were you not watching the cycling Paul?) Not at 6.00am!!!!! Not keen on time trials either.
only2garners Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 So we can assume the club have sold around 16,000 to date...not too bad if true. No. We have sold over 90% of the tickets we had sold by this time last year, not at the end, so the current figure will be quite a bit less than 16,000. If we get the same sort of sales pattern as last year then we should end up around 16,000 but that's anyone's guess right now.
tonyoz Posted July 23, 2011 Posted July 23, 2011 Paul and Ben; you have restored my faith in the true football fan! That's the first time I've chuckled to myself on here for months. Good stuff.
Hughesy Posted July 29, 2011 Author Posted July 29, 2011 Mate of mine signed up on friday, City fan but I'm slowly turning him into a Rover! Get him to away games and I reckon he will convert!!
den Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 Eloquent comment by Marple Leaf The usual minus mark, for pointing out the feelings of many fans Philip.
Ozz Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 Eloquent comment by Marple Leaf Summing up what I said a few weeks ago in reply to Dens question as to why I wasn't bothering re-newing. August 12th I will be on Anglesey in a tent with my family, and not getting excited about Wolves.
philipl Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 Marple Leaf is one very influential fan to have lost. But of course Venky's have no idea nor any interest in finding out how to market in and around Blackburn.
Mattyblue Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 Asy ou well know I believe the Venky regime has been a complete farce from day one (yeah I'm a loony), but they will not drive me out. If we protest, if we are asset stripped, when we get CL qualification I'll be there. But make no mistake there are long standing fans that I would never have dreamed would stop going to Ewood Park who are doing just that. And that's a very sad state of affairs.
Sysagent Posted July 30, 2011 Posted July 30, 2011 I haven't renewed this year either. I have held out in the vain hope that something would stir me into getting on the terraces again, perhaps a key signing or some sign of rational behaviour from the new owners but alas... Not to be... I also have to admit I have become rather apathetic to the whole Premier League set up and how it proclaims to be "The Best League On The Earth", well after the past few years offerings of what was meant to be "exciting" and "good" football and Barcelona's complete annihilation of Manchester United, I just think it's a whole bloody con to be honest, like most of what the Murdoch's are associated with. I really don't want to be a part of watching the whole sycophantic circus that's paraded year in year out to the Manchester United's, Chelsea's, Arsenal's and more recently to the blue compartment of Manchester's new finest mercenaries. I know Rover's are the needle that get's under the skin of the Circus I mentioned above and I know they are something to be so so extremely proud of in the past years, with the classic line coming to mind about "Punching above our weight". But I just can't seem to want to be out there on the terraces with the way the club is heading and coupled with this the way the football scene as whole has degenerated into. I might be back one Season, but it won't be this one I am afraid.
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