[Archived] Sam Allardyce

[Kelbo]

Sam was gradually sucking the life of the club with his brand of football. We've had more highs and lows under Kean in six months than we had with two years of Big Sam.

If Sam was sucking the life out of the club, then this lot (ala Peter Kay) have sucked it, packed it, just wish they would 'go away'

[roversfan99]

Sam was gradually edging the club up the table with his brand of football. We've had more lows under Kean in six months than we had with two years of Big Sam.

[Mattyblue]

Sam was gradually sucking the life of the club with his brand of football. We've had more highs and lows under Kean in six months than we had with two years of Big Sam.

If the club falling to the brink of relegation, but surviving on the last day is part of your 'highs and lows', you can keep it.

The tripe people write on this board is unreal.

[Tom]

I remember that in Steve Kean's first game in charge v West Ham in December. Minus 15, frozen stiff and the worst football match I have watched in 50 years.

Jim be honest here, do you truly believe that it was worse than the 0-0 game against West Ham at home the year before?

As bad as the one this season was the one the year before was far more dull, there was one proper chance in the whole game if I remember right.

I don't see how anyone can say that was better than the one this season without any bias whilst retaining any credibility.

[jim mk2]

Sam was gradually sucking the life of the club with his brand of football. We've had more highs and lows under Kean in six months than we had with two years of Big Sam.

Hmmmm, 6-4 League Cup semi-final defeat at Villa was one of the best nights in 50+ years watching Rovers plus victories over some of the top 4 so I think you're a tad mistaken there.

Look on the bright side though, there's the "high" of another relegation nailbiter next season.

[Amo]

Hmmmm, 6-4 League Cup semi-final defeat at Villa was one of the best nights in 50+ years watching Rovers plus victories over some of the top 4 so I think you're a tad mistaken there.

Remarkable that you pick a game where we LOST. I thought winning was the only thing that mattered, Jim?

Look on the bright side though, there's the "high" of another relegation nailbiter next season.

I have a feeling you'd enjoy that more than me.

[dring1]

I remember that in Steve Kean's first game in charge v West Ham in December. Minus 15, frozen stiff and the worst football match I have watched in 50 years.

Yeh and kean had to sub 3 players due to injury which people conveniently forget. Not a good way to start of your managerial career. 1 of Which cased a player 2 be out for 6 months. We have had really bad injurys and suspensions havent helped. Would like to see kean given a chance with out them problems.

[PAFELL]

I remember that in Steve Kean's first game in charge v West Ham in December. Minus 15, frozen stiff and the worst football match I have watched in 50 years.

Yep that was a very cold day - could not wait for the match to end. Other matches postponed and I wished ours had been.

[cruz]

If Sam was sucking the life out of the club, then this lot (ala Peter Kay) have sucked it, packed it, just wish they would 'go away'

If only, but to be replace by?........there wasn't even a small queue to take on our 'well run' club

[otto man]

I remember that in Steve Kean's first game in charge v West Ham in December. Minus 15, frozen stiff and the worst football match I have watched in 50 years.

No, that would be the 7-1 humiliation at old trafford that your "Messiah" set us up for surely?

[tcj_jones]

Hmmmm, 6-4 League Cup semi-final defeat at Villa was one of the best nights in 50+ years watching Rovers plus victories over some of the top 4 so I think you're a tad mistaken there.

Look on the bright side though, there's the "high" of another relegation nailbiter next season.

Was just going to mention the Villa semi, actually.

Our relegation escape in his first season in charge was also pretty exciting and you were left feeling that we were progressing nicely and moving forward after the ###### Ince left us in, rather than that we had escaped by the skin of our teeth after nose-diving toward the foot of the table.

[Gav]

Jim be honest here, do you truly believe that it was worse than the 0-0 game against West Ham at home the year before?

As bad as the one this season was the one the year before was far more dull, there was one proper chance in the whole game if I remember right.

The West Ham game you're referring to was indeed the worst home performance in years, 4-5-1 against a struggling West Ham team at home was awful, and I still to this day have no idea what Allardyce was thinking.

Its not often that a poor performance sticks in the memory, but that game certainly does.....

Hmmmm, 6-4 League Cup semi-final defeat at Villa was one of the best nights in 50+ years watching Rovers plus victories over some of the top 4 so I think you're a tad mistaken there.

Look on the bright side though, there's the "high" of another relegation nailbiter next season.

Everyone was stunned to see the team play the way they did in the cup game at Villa, but that was one game in 2yrs, and not as good as the first half display against Wolves for me.

[cruz]

The West Ham game you're referring to was indeed the worst home performance in years, 4-5-1 against a struggling West Ham team at home was awful, and I still to this day have no idea what Allardyce was thinking.

Its not often that a poor performance sticks in the memory, but that game certainly does.....

Yep. The whole stadium could see, only 5 minutes in, that West Ham had no intention of coming over the half way line and they were there for the taking. The manager sat on his hands and remained steadfast to his "too scared to conceed" gameplan. A true snoozefest.

But this years West Ham game felt worse as it was minus 23 and all 22 players looked as up for it as the crowd. A truly ridiculous decision to let that game go ahead. I almost went for a burton about 15 times.

[alexanders]

I love how people who are all about results pick out a loss to be one of the best nights.

[AggyBlue]

I love how people who are all about results pick out a loss to be one of the best nights.

Results are the most important aspect but it doesn't mean a defeat can't be a cracking game.

Can't you see that or are you just trying to antagonize people.

[Fife Rover]

If only, but to be replace by?........there wasn't even a small queue to take on our 'well run' club

Small queue?........There wasn't any opportunity for that. The "Grand Vizier" had spoken and the owners rushed to obey. Kean was appointed in the very same sentence that gave Sam his marching orders!

Edit: all in my humble opinion of cf course (and speaking metaphorically)

[alexanders]

Results are the most important aspect but it doesn't mean a defeat can't be a cracking game.

Can't you see that or are you just trying to antagonize people.

I think it is more complex than that Aggy.

I agree that results are very important, but for me and maybe others so are entertainment.

Last season when we where safe we started playing neat football and it was a joy to watch. I really thought that Allardyce was the right man for this team then.

After the summer and the first half of this season it was only about grinding out results against the lesser teams and the horrible 7-1 defeat was horrible to bear.

For me I need my Rovers to TRY and compete with the big boys, TRY and mix it up a little bit. Taking some risks.

[Gav]

Results are the most important aspect but it doesn't mean a defeat can't be a cracking game.

Can't you see that or are you just trying to antagonize people.

You’re right Aggy, loses can be great performances, but when people are constantly saying that results are all that matters, it does seem strange that a loss is put forward as an argument for the best game in 50+ years.

I can think if several great performances that don’t include any losses.

[jim mk2]

for the best game in 50+ years.

one of the best.

Big difference, and I've watched an awful lot of games in that time.

Now then, do you want to discuss some of the "hoofball" dross we've had to suffer watching since December ?

[47er]

Just remember---"he's gone and he ain't coming back"---BIG BANNER HEADLINES!

[BuckyRover]

I would say there were proportionally more abject performances under Sam.

Under Kean we didn't play well sometimes but I rarely felt they couldn't be bothered. (Sunderland away was bad but it was only his 4th match, Everton/Villa were bad also).

Under Sam off the top of my head I can think of Stoke away, Brum away, Chelsea away, Liverpool away, United away, Arsenal away, Spurs away, Everton away, City away, Villa away (twice?). These aren't all from this season, just matches I remember watching that made me want to turn off.

[Gav]

one of the best.

Big difference, and I've watched an awful lot of games in that time.

Now then, do you want to discuss some of the "hoofball" dross we've had to suffer watching since December ?

I've also watched an awful lot games in that time, and the Villa performance was good, but I can’t recall another performance like that under Allardyce, can you?

As for the ‘hoofball dross’ since December, you of all people should know that styles and tactics need time to ‘bed in’, we saw glimpses of what to expect towards the end of the season. No matter how you try to dress things up, we’re making progress in terms of the football on offer, the first half at Wolves was arguably the best 45 minutes I can recall in a long while.

[Blue n White Rover]

Allardyce to Villa?

Houllier looks set to leave Villa by mutual consent. Villa owner does not want to spend much. Allardyce will want a job ideally in the PL.

Watch this space.

[Roverite28]

Hmmmm, 6-4 League Cup semi-final defeat at Villa was one of the best nights in 50+ years watching Rovers plus victories over some of the top 4 so I think you're a tad mistaken there.

Look on the bright side though, there's the "high" of another relegation nailbiter next season.

To be honest, the 6-4 was more of a farce then entertainment.

Id say the spurs game at home, were we lost 1-0 was a far more entertaining game against a side that was in the champions league. I still scratch my head to how we lost that.

[K-Hod]

Can someone pass Jim some prozac? That man is misery personified!

Convenient how you neglect to mention the 1st half against Wolves where we were 3-0 up at HT. I can honestly say I can't remember the last time that was the case in any game, never mind away from home!