[Archived] Summer 2011 Transfer Window Part One

[BuckyRover]

But if we had two holding midfielders (nzonzi and jones)

with 2 wingers, one in the hole and a top striker............

and jj doing his box when we have the ball

That is exactly how we are going to play according to SK. We need JJ (or a similar player) to make that formation work.

[Wilko Rover]

hitzlsperger anyone? Injury prone yes... but was fine at Stuttgart, hopefully he's back in a good run. I miss Rovers players scoring pingers!

[Jamesw1982]

formica in the hole hoillet and olsson on the wings

or how about hoillet in the hole with larsson and olsson on the wings?

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Kalinic cost £6m...

For someone who is proven in the division then £6m is at the cheap end of the scale. Jones played a big role in us staying up. We have no other player like him in the squad. Is he 'worth' £6m?? well who is? If Kalinic is £6m and Phil Jones is £16m then id say £6m for J.Jones is reasonable..

[philip369]

That is exactly how we are going to play according to SK. We need JJ (or a similar player) to make that formation work.

Big lad up front....or a fox in the box?

[Mullionvagrant]

Kalinic cost £6m...

For someone who is proven in the division then £6m is at the cheap end of the scale. Jones played a big role in us staying up. We have no other player like him in the squad. Is he 'worth' £6m?? well who is? If Kalinic is £6m and Phil Jones is £16m then id say £6m for J.Jones is reasonable..

No messing get him signed. one less thing to worry about-certainly broke up the play in midfield and took a lot of pressur eoff the defence which i feel is now a huge area of weakness. I personally think that to be honest we need a whole new back four. salagado isn't going to be able to last whole season and our only cover on left is emerton now. hanley-still raw. nelson-a good O.A.P, givet o.k but off the pace at times, olsson likes to go forward more an attacking right back, morris??-hmm maybe.... samba goodbye i guess...

if not this season then defo' next a whole new back four.

[RibbleValleyRover]

£6m is a lot considering he will be 30 years old this year, has had numerous injuries in his career (some with a long layoff- was out of the game for 8 months) and likely will miss games through suspension judging by the number of yellow cards he picked up during his short stint with us.

He did a great job at Rovers but £6m is a lot of money.

[jim mk2]

He was such a positive influence on the team last season that I would definitely pay 6m.

But if they wanted 6m I would pay it.

Hence the expression a fool and his money are soon parted.

£2.5m maximum for Jones.

[den]

yes but does he do that on a regular basis? no. Im not knocking him, hes a decent player but we dont need to pay that much for a player when we need creativity in midfield. JW, i know a creative midfielder would cost £6 million or more and i would pay that for a creative midfielder or over the odds for one because thats what rovers need. We have had plenty of 'triers' and 'grafters' in midfield over the last few years but what everyone has always said is we need a 'tugay', thats where are biggest problem lies in midfield, a player who can drop a through ball on a six pence.

I agree.

We need a creative midfielder and at least two new strikers. Quality players in those positions can be very expensive - and signing JJ doesn't make any difference to those needs. We also need a replacement for Phil Jones. Hoilett might leave for next to nothing, so we might have to replace him as well. Blowing £6m out of our budget at this point would be madness.

[philip369]

Hence the expression a fool and his money are soon parted.

£2.5m maximum for Jones.

Weird!

We have some posters hoping to get £2m for Julie Andrews.

And some not wanting to pay more than £2.5m for Jones.

What's it worth.....it depends if you're buying or selling!

[Blueboy Downunder]

I'm leaning towards Den opinion on Jermaine Jones. I'd be horrified at £6 million given that he'll be 30 soon. He's a player who relies heavily on his physical qualities and has had injury problems in the past.

£2.5 million is probably a bit on the cheap side, but I wouldn't go above £3.5m.

chucky...whilst i agree with you and den on the potential fee for JJ, and i know that you have not mentioned anything about his abilities as a footballer....but den, JJ was not bought to be a creative force in our midfield. he was bought to be that box to box player that we have't had for god knows how long. supposedly that creativeness is left to dunny, junior and any others that we care to mention. 3.5 million for JJ at a maximum and i would definetly have that. i want the guy back anyway. so chucky, lets buy the guy purely for his physical qualities. his engine is outstanding, we all know that and he has proven that he can cut the mustard in the premier league. is it not life on this board that we are (some of us)always harping on about players not having experiance at this level....JJ has well and truely quashed our fears on that front.

lets get the guy in.

[Gav]

Weird!

We have some posters hoping to get £2m for Julie Andrews.

And some not wanting to pay more than £2.5m for Jones.

What's it worth.....it depends if your buying or selling!

Says much about the posters on this thread

[Blackburn Ravers]

Vucinic tends to miss a sitter, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YCNGEoDPM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCdpB9yJZq8&feature=related

[True Blue & White]

Weird!

We have some posters hoping to get £2m for Julie Andrews.

And some not wanting to pay more than £2.5m for Jones.

But are they the same people making those claims, if not I don't see your point.

[Tom]

So some people think we shouldn't pay more than £2.5m for Jones but also think £16m wasn't enough for the other jones.

Strangley again it's those against the manager who seem to think it.

It seems the board is so divided that logic rarely comes into things anymore sadly.

[SergioPeter89]

I see that Big Sam is going to sign a new player tomorrow, and that its a player who Big Sam knows from earlier clubs.

Can it be.. No, it can`t be... But what if? No, it just can`t be Super Keef....

[broadsword]

So some people think we shouldn't pay more than £2.5m for Jones but also think £16m wasn't enough for the other jones.

Strangley again it's those against the manager who seem to think it.

It seems the board is so divided that logic rarely comes into things anymore sadly.

What's your honest valuation of both players, Tom?

[jim mk2]

What's it worth.....it depends if you're buying or selling!

Of course you want to pay as little as possible when buying and sell for as high a price as possible. Jones would be a bad buy at £6m but a reasonable buy at £2 - 3m. In the case of Andrews two conkers and dead frog would seem a fair swap.

Well done for working it out - the only one who has.

[philip369]

But are they the same people making those claims, if not I don't see your point.

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I would love us to sell Keith for £2m and buy JJ for £2.5m.

But in my honest, humble opinion thats as likely as the chance meeting I've always longed for with Pamela Anderson.

[callumrovers]

Fair price for Jones is £6 million! I recon a fair price for Phil Jones was £16 million good thing Venkys pushed the price up

[Blueboy Downunder]

£6 million? are some of you mad? hes never a 6 million pound man in a million years. i think some of you slightly overestimate his contribution last season. Yes he did a job, put in the work rate but he didnt do anything messi-esqe or contribute loads of goals, 3.5 million, would be suitable, even then i would be loath to pay that much if i was manager.

not having a pop mate but this is exactly the kinda thing that a lot of board members have always done....JJ was not bought to score loads of goals, he wasn't bought because he was the one who taught messi everything, he was not bought to be our creative genius in the middle of the park. as badly as we still need a creative genius from midfield...we also needed excactly the type of player that JJ is and this is another area on this guy that my opinion differs (sometimes greatly)....his contribution to our club and the first team last season, was imeasurably important and overestimating his value to us last season cannot be possible.

[Tom]

What's your honest valuation of both players, Tom?

We got a fair price for Jones though £20m up front would have been preferable I suppose. That isn't a reflection based just on talent though it includes the young English premium.

For J Jones around the £5m mark would be a fair price he was our best player (apart from Junior) in the last few months of the season.

[broadsword]

We got a fair price for Jones though £20m up front would have been preferable I suppose. That isn't a reflection based just on talent though it includes the young English premium.

For J Jones around the £5m mark would be a fair price he was our best player (apart from Junior) in the last few months of the season.

I would slightly disagree. Don't forget that Kevin Gallacher said Jones should be going in the twenties. I reckon he's not a bad judge of a player. The club's own alleged valuation was £25m, no way on Earth was that going to happen with a clause of £16m and the player talking to Man Utd and having his medical before we'd got our boots on. Liverpool came in with a £22m bid, Nicko referred to that as a wind-up, but still ... I think we could have screwed a bit more out of Man Utd than we reputedly did.

Jones did well for us in his position, but he's almost 30. I haven't heard of anyone else coming in for him, he's not a "name " player. I wouldn't want to pay more than £4m I don't think.

[den]

So some people think we shouldn't pay more than £2.5m for Jones but also think £16m wasn't enough for the other jones.

Strangley again it's those against the manager who seem to think it.

It seems the board is so divided that logic rarely comes into things anymore sadly.

Do me a favour TCO. What has this got to do with Kean? Stop trying to make something out that isn't there.

[Tom]

Do me a favour TCO. What has this got to do with Kean? Stop trying to make something out that isn't there.

Each to their own I think for some people it's got everything to do with Kean and the owners.