Hughesy Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Guardian's take on events Doubt its that simple - wait for nicko's article
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Amo Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 If the lad's any good, it doesn't matter what position he plays. Especially if we're going to sign more than one player this year.
hawkiiz Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Looks like the papers are just trying to make Venky's look stupid. Surely the "football advisors at Ewood" are not trying to make venky's "understand" that the clause actually says ManU can have him for £16m??
RibbleValleyRover Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 As long as we are going to spend on the priority areas (central defense, midfield and up front) then if the club wants to buy a right back for £4m then I am fine with that.
Kelbo Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Looks like the papers are just trying to make Venky's look stupid. Surely the "football advisors at Ewood" are not trying to make venky's "understand" that the clause actually says ManU can have him for £16m?? I think, I may be wrong here, but contractual laws do vary from country to country and Venkys may not understand the English law version. Indeed a 'release' clause is exactly what it says, if the figure is agreed, ie: £16,000,000 that triggers the release, I honestly cant see any other definition of the clause. From Website re release clauses. DJ Campbell has a release clause in his contract enabling the striker to leave Blackpool for £1.25million following the club's relegation from the Premier League.
cn_barlow Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Looks like the papers are just trying to make Venky's look stupid. Surely the "football advisors at Ewood" are not trying to make venky's "understand" that the clause actually says ManU can have him for £16m?? thats the impression i got too. There must be more to it than that. Roll up Nicko....
AJW Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 if you Believe the telegraphs version , its Venky's showing their ignorance to footballing protocol , this could end up backfiring and venky's and more importantly Rovers looking complete tools.... i hope the venky's love-in earlier wasnt premature
Torgeir Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 He scored 29 goals in 63 apps for Molde at the time he was only 21-22 years old. He scored both headers (from all kinds of positions in the area), run defences to death, with back against goal, do trickery to get space and score. He nettet almost a goal for ever 2 matches. He was absolutely fantastic in the norwegian league. No doubt about it. Never said he wasn't, but to me a 'monster in front of goal' sounds like Alan Shearer. He wasn't, he would have scored a goal in every match if he was - and that's why he hasn't been that great in the EPL as he doesn't get to as many chances as he used to. If he can improve his finishing and composure he can turn into a real player, time is ticking though.
BlueWhiteDynamite Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 You're presuming the word 'release' is used. It may say "upon BRFC receiving an offer of £16m the club will allow said employee to discuss contract terms with the bidding club" however if the word release is used at all in relation to £16m then we have no option but to allow him to leave.
Tim Southampton Rover Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 Good luck to Venky's. Let's try our best to get as much money as possible. He's either going to go for 16m or more so let's find every loop hole possible to make sure we get big bucks.
ada2020 Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 if you Believe the telegraphs version , its Venky's showing their ignorance to footballing protocol , this could end up backfiring and venky's and more importantly Rovers looking complete tools.... i hope the venky's love-in earlier wasnt premature Just what I was thinking........
Backroom Tom Posted June 10, 2011 Backroom Posted June 10, 2011 if you Believe the telegraphs version , its Venky's showing their ignorance to footballing protocol , this could end up backfiring and venky's and more importantly Rovers looking complete tools.... i hope the venky's love-in earlier wasnt premature Why would it matter if they look bad? They have tried to keep the lad or get as much as possible, more than the trust seemed to do. Fair play to them if thats the case
RovertheHill Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 if you Believe the telegraphs version , its Venky's showing their ignorance to footballing protocol , this could end up backfiring and venky's and more importantly Rovers looking complete tools.... i hope the venky's love-in earlier wasnt premature Well if they're doing it themselves then we may end up looking very silly but I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have taken (English) legal advice before taking any kind of stance otherwise they risk a breach of contract
Ripleys love child Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 J A. Sorts all contracts out not venkys, surly he woudnt be stupid enough to kick up a fuss if their wasn't actually Anthing in this . Would he?
Kelbo Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 You're presuming the word 'release' is used. It may say "upon BRFC receiving an offer of £16m the club will allow said employee to discuss contract terms with the bidding club" however if the word release is used at all in relation to £16m then we have no option but to allow him to leave. It would be a first and quite unusual if that was the case, I am sure the clause inserted and agreed by player and agent, would be construed as a release clause, otherwise there would really be no point in having it there!!
roversmum Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 It's hardly Venky's fault if no-one explained how the release clause stuff worked to them. At least, if that is the case, they won't make that mistake again. They would have had no idea of what might transpire, and they would hardly promise concerned fans who had contacted them that Jones would not be sold. They must be as sick as we are over the scenario.
Hughesy Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 We should try and get Upson. WHY? As for the clause stuff - wait for Nicko, it wont be that simple
chocky Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 It's hardly Venky's fault if no-one explained how the release clause stuff worked to them. At least, if that is the case, they won't make that mistake again. They would have had no idea of what might transpire, and they would hardly promise concerned fans who had contacted them that Jones would not be sold. They must be as sick as we are over the scenario. Mum, some won't hear a good word spoken about the owners....
Kelbo Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 J A. Sorts all contracts out not venkys, surly he woudnt be stupid enough to kick up a fuss if their wasn't actually Anthing in this . Would he? If JA sorts out the contracts we will be in deep trouble with the Premier League!!!
Backroom DE. Posted June 10, 2011 Backroom Posted June 10, 2011 If it's as simple as Venky's misunderstanding the meaning of the release clause then of course it's their fault. I'm not one for beating the owners with any stick available, but they've got the advisors and legal team in place to explain such things to them, I'm sure. I think (and hope) Hughesy's correct however when he says it isn't that simple. it'd be pretty embarrassing if it was.
Kenwoo Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 I can guarantee Venkys know their way around a contract so I'm not sure why anyone would paint them as naive to the situation.
Ripleys love child Posted June 10, 2011 Posted June 10, 2011 If JA sorts out the contracts we will be in deep trouble with the Premier League!!! Let me revise that he is advising them and surely he is not that daft
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