[Archived] Tom Finn Leaves Rovers

[Steve Moss]

And yeah, so long Finn. Met you once, didn't like you, but I forgive you for the work you did.

That was low class. And so far as I am aware, you are the only person on this board to voice a negative opinion of Tom Finn.

[Guest roverspogges]

I could've done a great job for Venkys as a consultant and I wouldn't have charged a penny. As for Tom Finn, I'm not fussed in the slightest that he's gone to be honest. It's going the way its going and there's bugger all we can do about it.

[Fife Rover]

Apologies for off topic post but doesn't Nicko still write articles? Other than dripping us little bits of info that never tended to go anywhere (which interested me I have to say and may have been more to do with the times and finances), all he did that was of real worth was justify his presence and post his article on here. Surely if we read his articles we'd be in pretty much the same situation.

And yeah, so long Finn. Met you once, didn't like you, but I forgive you for the work you did.

Churlish and childish post that does you no credit at all.

[Mercer]

Another sad departure. The spine of our club (JW, TF & SA) has been stripped out and replaced by, IMO, inexperienced and unproven personnel.

The strength of any business is in its people and we have lost a whole lot of nous and acumen.

A struggling business, yes, you apply the surgeon's scalpel, however, a relatively successful one should look to move forward by a steady, ongoing infusion of new talent and ideas.

To hear Kean wax lyrical about TF's work, particularly with the club's academy and to come out with statements that our club is now a better one is, IMO, nauseating. IMO, there's a stench within our club that is emanating from a rotting core.

However, c'est la vie.

Best of luck TF, you may well be better out of it now.

[Mattyblue]

Don't take braddock on, he is what GAV likes to call a 'Troll'.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

To hear Kean wax lyrical about TF's work, particularly with the club's academy and to come out with statements that our club is now a better one is, IMO, nauseating.

Have to agree with that. Its a very uncomfortable feeling hearing all these emotional testaments to exactly what the likes of Williams and Finn have done for the club and how vital they were in putting us where we are, and then for there to be no decent explanation of why they've left and almost a fear to speculate or comment on the reasons. Maybe Venkys will bring some top MD in who carries on developing the academy, keeping ticket prices low and who builds an excellent relationship with the fans. But Finn already had all that and the skill at juggling it that comes with over a decade of experience. If it aint broke, why fix it?

[Mercer]

Have to agree with that. Its a very uncomfortable feeling hearing all these emotional testaments to exactly what the likes of Williams and Finn have done for the club and how vital they were in putting us where we are, and then for there to be no decent explanation of why they've left and almost a fear to speculate or comment on the reasons. Maybe Venkys will bring some top MD in who carries on developing the academy, keeping ticket prices low and who builds an excellent relationship with the fans. But Finn already had all that and the skill at juggling it that comes with over a decade of experience. If it aint broke, why fix it?

It's so difficult to comprehend.

I remember Peter Robinson at Liverpool who moved from Secretary to CEO to Vice Chair. Arguably, Liverpool have never been the same force since he retired. Guys like Robinson, Williams & Finn are the glue that hold organisations together, ensuring that they run like clockwork and that, in the main, the best business decisions are made.

No doubt, it will be dismissed as alarmist, however, inexperienced owners coupled with inexperienced management is a potential recipe for expensive disaster.

[Exiled in Toronto]

No doubt, it will be dismissed as alarmist, however, inexperienced owners coupled with inexperienced management is a potential recipe for expensive disaster.

Your posts are never dismissed as alarmist.

[DaveyB]

With regard to the food voucher, I didn't meet anyone who was able to use these because of the enormous queues and understand prices were excessively high on the day. Personally I'd find it hard to spend £10 on the food / drink on offer at any ground I've visited and I doubt many fans redeemed the full value. At face value this cost £27,000, in reality it probably cost less than £10k. Again there is nothing to suggest this initiative was paid for by Venky's.

Me and my mate managed to spend 3 of our 4 combined £5 vouchers - like you it's not what I would normally eat, I don't usually spend any money on food in grounds, but equally I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. And the enormous queues would seem to prove that a lot of other fans felt the same way.

I understand why you wouldn't want to use yours, or why you wouldn't want to queue, but neither of those are the fault of the people who gave you the £10 voucher.

Which would appear to the owners and not the club. You say that there is nothing to suggest that the initiative was paid for by the Venky's, but there is. The text I got from the club clearly states that the £10 voucher is courtesy of the owners, as did the voucher itself. So, unless you have proof that this was a lie, and it was in fact funded by the club, then you would surely have to accept that it was a nice gesture from the owners to the fans - one that unbelievably they are getting criticsm for!

The other initiative for the Wolves game, the subsidised tickets, however, was clearly stated as being from 'the club' - so it would be fair to assume that that came from the running costs of Rovers, and not from the owners pockets directly. What I don't get is, if both initiatives were being funded by the club, why the crediting of the 2 different sources - if the owners were trying to take credit for something that they were not actually funding themselves, then surely they would claim the credit for both.

[3rdpillar]

As an aside on how things are changing. my employers have been told their contract with BRFC will not be renewed, no reason given. So some changes are afoot.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Your posts are never dismissed as alarmist.

[JAL]

As an aside on how things are changing. my employers have been told their contract with BRFC will not be renewed, no reason given. So some changes are afoot.

Who are they ?

[bob fleming]

It's so difficult to comprehend.

I remember Peter Robinson at Liverpool who moved from Secretary to CEO to Vice Chair. Arguably, Liverpool have never been the same force since he retired. Guys like Robinson, Williams & Finn are the glue that hold organisations together, ensuring that they run like clockwork and that, in the main, the best business decisions are made.

No doubt, it will be dismissed as alarmist, however, inexperienced owners coupled with inexperienced management is a potential recipe for expensive disaster.

Sorry Mercerman. There's far too much logic in that post. Sorry, not logic, common sense.

Still, these guys just need time. Give them a chance. All they have done to date is get rid of JW and TF and listen to a football agent instead. Clearly there is nothing to worry about at all. What price the pies at Wolves when you can sign a player from Monaco, or was it South America?, for £3m who isn't good enough to kick a ball for the first team? They're loaded!

Bring in some bloke from Leicester City. Bring in a new DoF / "Chairman". Who could that be btw? Any ideas anyone? Please don't do it.

Onwards and upwards. All is well. In Kean and Venky's we trust.

(Obviously no sarcasm in there at all - for those of you hard of thinking (looks like there's a need to point satire out these days))

[J*B]

Went to wolves with two others. Got £30 of vouchers, spent £30 of vouchers. Didn't miss any of the game. Your all not determined enough.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Eating's cheating. If they were beer vouchers I might have considered joining the dejected masses but I just found the whole spectacle rather tragic. I bet the kiosk staff were thinking either they don't get fed much in Blackburn or they'll do anything for a freebie.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Sorry Mercerman. There's far too much logic in that post. Sorry, not logic, common sense.

You do know he's a WUM dont you?

Still, these guys just need time. Give them a chance.

Correct

All they have done to date is get rid of JW and TF and listen to a football agent instead.

They employed a consultant and listened to his advice. If they hadn't employed a consultant or ignored him no doubt they'd be getting slagged off for that too.

Clearly there is nothing to worry about at all. What price the pies at Wolves when you can sign a player from Monaco, or was it South America?, for £3m who isn't good enough to kick a ball for the first team?

New to the country, new to English football, he's apparently improved as of late. Maybe that's a sign of him settling in. Possibly a bit harsh to be writing the young lad off after 5 months?

They're loaded!

Maybe, maybe not. I'd reckon they'll spend more of their brass on Rovers than the last lot did over recent years.

Bring in some bloke from Leicester City. Bring in a new DoF / "Chairman". Who could that be btw? Any ideas anyone? Please don't do it.

Another one written off before he gets through the door?

Onwards and upwards. All is well. In Kean and Venky's we trust.

Onwards and upwards would be nice. I dont know about trust but giving them a chance might be good. I dont, know maybe that would be too much like 'common sense/logic'. The alternative is bellyaching and hand wringing on here. I reckon some would like to get back to discussing football

[Silencio]

A consultant, DGS? You know that Jerome Anderson isn't a consultant, he is an agent who planted one of his own clients into the managers job...

That's not to say Paul Hunt won't do a decent job, I just don't see why it's necessary to be pushing TF out of the door...

[deryck guyler's spoon]

A consultant, DGS? You know that Jerome Anderson isn't a consultant, he is an agent who planted one of his own clients into the managers job...

That's not to say Paul Hunt won't do a decent job, I just don't see why it's necessary to be pushing TF out of the door...

Yes, he's an agent but he was employed as a consultant was he not? I think Venkys trusted him which may or may not have been a mistake. I'm nervous about Kean too.

I was sad to see both Williams and Finn go but change can be traumatic, especially at an institution like Rovers that sees so little change. I believe that we needed to change because the Walker Trust was slowly but surely killing the club.

Maybe different owners than Venkys could have managed the dramatic change more smoothly but Venkys were the only serious buyers and so they have my backing.

Because I love Rovers and am so far away from the club optimism has become my default setting as the alternative would drive me nuts on the other side of the globe. As it is a number of my fellow posters drive me nuts instead.

[philipl]

You are always a good laugh DGS- I will give you that.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

You are always a good laugh DGS- I will give you that.

More than can be said for you. What's brought you out from under your stone btw?

[tashor]

You are always a good laugh DGS- I will give you that.

More than can be said for you. What's brought you out from under your stone btw?

Some are born prats, some achieve pratness, and some have sad prats thrust upon ’em................

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Some are born prats, some achieve pratness, and some have sad prats thrust upon ’em................

...and some make up daft songs all the time as well as starting threads about the size of the manager's penis like the one you had deleted before christmas.

[RevidgeBlue]

Haven't read every post on here but quite disappointing to see that a thread that should have been dedicated to Tom has been hijacked by the anti Venky's faction for another fairly pointless slagging session.

Very disappointed to see Tom go, extremely impressive and far more of a loss than John Williams imo. If you wanted something doing by or at the Club, he was the man to get it done.

Best of luck with whatever you do in the future.

[Blue n White Rover]

Eating's cheating. If they were beer vouchers I might have considered joining the dejected masses but I just found the whole spectacle rather tragic. I bet the kiosk staff were thinking either they don't get fed much in Blackburn or they'll do anything for a freebie.

Or that they're lucky buggars to get a free £10 voucher or why don't our club do something like this?

[Mattyblue]

No they thought 'let's double the prices and make a killing'.