[Archived] Other premier league 2011-12

[BuckyRover]

  On 15/02/2012 at 16:07, Roverdale said:

He could well be the best English right winger around.

One of the best end products I've ever seen.. It's a tragedy what happened to the lad.

(Although it's 100% his own fault)

Thought you were talking about Glen Little

[speeeeeeedie]

  On 15/02/2012 at 16:07, Roverdale said:

He could well be the best English right winger around.

One of the best end products I've ever seen.. It's a tragedy what happened to the lad.

(Although it's 100% his own fault)

Agree. He had a ability, much like Beckham, to be able to put in a great cross without beating a man. He was also great at getting free kicks as his feet were very quick. Someone on here had a free kick he scored (Newcastle at home?) as their avatar/signature for a while. The curve was Roberto Carlos like.

[LeChuck]

  On 15/02/2012 at 16:07, Roverdale said:

He could well be the best English right winger around.

One of the best end products I've ever seen.. It's a tragedy what happened to the lad.

(Although it's 100% his own fault)

I don't blame him at all for leaving. A successful and ambitious Tottenham team (based where he was born) approached him at a time that we had just appointed Paul Ince as manager. It's a no brainer really.

It hasn't worked out with hindsight, but at the time it was the right decision for him to take - he had to have a go at taking his career to next level. Spurs can be a graveyard for players, but they can also be a stepping stone to the top level (Bale, Modric, Walker, Lennon to a lesser extent).

The one thing that had always threatened to hold him back was his lack of pace. That was excusable whilst his delivery was superb. To maintain that standard was always going to be an incredibly tough task though, and once that slipped a little his weaknesses became exposed.

I don't think his time at Birmingham helped considering they tried playing him on the left wing most of the time.

[joey_big_nose]

Spurs reject XI in the last four years only.

--------------------------------------Gomes(8m)

-----Hutton(10m)-----Corluka(8m)------Bassong(8m)---Kaboul (8m)

Bentley (15m)----Palacios (12m)------KP Boatang(4.5m)----Dos Santos (5m)

--------------------Pavlychenko (15m)---Bent(16.5)m)

Subs:- Woodgate 8m, Pascal Chimbonda(4.5m), Kranjaer 2.5m, Gilberto 2m, Gunter 3m

TOTAL:- £130 million

I really admire Spurs economy…..

While you can say some of these players were sold on, or will be sold on, for substantial amounts the overall loss must be huge.

[rovers1993]

If you've seen Kaboul lately or for the past season and half, you will realize that he is one of the best CB's in the league and improving weekly...

Kevin-prince boateng was too young at spurs and they had no patient with him, look at him at Milan now... completely raped arsenal's back four tonight.

Corluka is still quality and performing well for Leverkusen.

The rest I completely agree with you there.

[BuckyRover]

It could be worse. We could be Arsenal fans.

Poor sods...

[A cup of beans]

staggering over-reaction from wigan!

FLARES

[joey_big_nose]

  On 15/02/2012 at 21:45, rovers1993 said:

If you've seen Kaboul lately or for the past season and half, you will realize that he is one of the best CB's in the league and improving weekly...

Kevin-prince boateng was too young at spurs and they had no patient with him, look at him at Milan now... completely raped arsenal's back four tonight.

Corluka is still quality and performing well for Leverkusen.

The rest I completely agree with you there.

Well my point is that they are rejected by Spurs - not that they are bad players. Bent clearly is very good, as is Boatang etc. They have a habit of wasting talented players.

I stand corrected on Kaboul - I thought he was a reject (indeed he was when he was sold to Pompey back in 2008) but has played a lot recently.

[chris]

  On 16/02/2012 at 15:50, joey_big_nose said:

Well my point is that they are rejected by Spurs - not that they are bad players. Bent clearly is very good, as is Boatang etc. They have a habit of wasting talented players.

I stand corrected on Kaboul - I thought he was a reject (indeed he was when he was sold to Pompey back in 2008) but has played a lot recently.

yeah they love Kaboul at Spurs, pretty young too apparently according to an over enthusiastic spurs fan.

[chaddyrovers]

Curbishley has turned down the Wolves Job!

Warnock has gone to Leeds.

Is Bruce in line for Wolves or will they go for younger manager like Lee Clark or overseas manager like Sven???

could Paul Ince make a return to Wovles as manager???

[martonrover]

  On 18/02/2012 at 14:05, chaddyrovers said:

Curbishley has turned down the Wolves Job!

Warnock has gone to Leeds.

Is Bruce in line for Wolves or will they go for younger manager like Lee Clark or overseas manager like Sven???

could Paul Ince make a return to Wovles as manager???

Wonder who our next assistant manager will be?

[Amo]

  On 15/02/2012 at 15:38, imy9 said:

Sorry Gumboots nothing to do with Clarke, Topman said I was trolling on a Kean thread...about Kean, yet on a 'other pl thread' he brings up Kean and Venkys...again, thought it ironic

You obviously have no idea what trolling means then.

[Audax]

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Curbishley has turned down the Wolves Job!

Haven't seen this in the news though I am not disputing what you say. I think Curbs would be the man for the Wolves.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 18/02/2012 at 15:41, Audax said:

Haven't seen this in the news though I am not disputing what you say. I think Curbs would be the man for the Wolves.

was said on GSS on Sky Sports news today.

plus also said on BBC radio west midlands today

[imy9]

  On 18/02/2012 at 15:10, Topman said:

You obviously have no idea what trolling means then.

It also means posting off topic Topman, which posting about Venkys and Kean on every thread kinda is lol

[Amo]

  On 18/02/2012 at 18:10, imy9 said:

It also means posting off topic Topman, which posting about Venkys and Kean on every thread kinda is lol

Um, no it doesn't?

[imy9]

  On 18/02/2012 at 18:47, Topman said:

Um, no it doesn't?

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum.

[Amo]

  On 18/02/2012 at 18:49, imy9 said:

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum.

Trolling is when someone's deliberately posting to get a rise out of people. Just as you did with your pro-Kean stance.

Making a throwaway jibe at Venky's expense isn't, unless I was trying to rile all the Venky fans on this site? All... six of 'em?

[imy9]

  On 18/02/2012 at 18:53, Topman said:

Trolling is when someone's deliberately posting to get a rise out of people. Just as you did with your pro-Kean stance.

Making a throwaway jibe at Venky's expense isn't, unless I was trying to rile all the Venky fans on this site? All... six of 'em?

Umm, I am not Pro Kean( he lost my support after Fulham LAST season) but am capable of making balanced points irrespective of my personal point of view about the man. Making random throwaway remarks on threads that are not even mentioning Kean or Venkys is troll like e.g posts about Lee Clark and you bring up Kean and Venkys lol... My definition of troll is the correct one lol.

[Amo]

  On 18/02/2012 at 19:03, imy9 said:

Umm, I am not Pro Kean( he lost my support after Fulham LAST season) but am capable of making balanced points irrespective of my personal point of view about the man. Making random throwaway remarks on threads that are not even mentioning Kean or Venkys is troll like e.g posts about Lee Clark and you bring up Kean and Venkys lol...

There is nothing balanced about defending our abortion of a manager. And that's what you were doing. You really had no point to make, and certainly not one anyone cared for.

I was making the point that Huddersfield sacking Lee Clark because they feared another club would poach him is the kind of retarded logic that Venky's would probably apply. Get over it.

  On 18/02/2012 at 19:03, imy9 said:

My definition of troll is the correct one lol.

Okay, champ.

[imy9]

  On 18/02/2012 at 19:20, Topman said:

There is nothing balanced about defending our abortion of a manager. And that's what you were doing. You really had no point to make, and certainly not one anyone cared for.

I was making the point that Huddersfield sacking Lee Clark because they feared another club would poach him is the kind of retarded logic that Venky's would probably apply. Get over it.

Okay, champ.

Try reading the posts again, I am pleased to see that you are speaking on behalf of the MB in informing me that no one cared for the points that I was making, I was having a healthy debate with a few people- you could always try that?

Read the last paragraph again to yourself, you are turning every conversation on threads back to Venkys again, may I suggest you get over them?

Champ the definition of a troll is clear, there is no need to be obtuse.

[Clitherover]

  On 18/02/2012 at 14:05, chaddyrovers said:

Curbishley has turned down the Wolves Job!

Is Bruce in line for Wolves or will they go for younger manager like Lee Clark or overseas manager like Sven???

could Paul Ince make a return to Wovles as manager???

First i've heard of this, great news Curbs turned the job down, he was their big chance of staying up imo.

Looks like it going to be Bruce for manager and i reckon he'll make a proper balls up of it.

Paul Ince would be hilarious but it will never happen.

[Mattyblue]

I'm amazed Bruce is still in line for PL jobs.

Just look at Sunderland since he left..

[Audax]

Steve Bruce had a miserable run with Sunderland at the end but they still did fairly well in Defence but Yes, Bruce, Rafa who I have seen mentioned as well, you would definitely have big doubts about. That said, sometimes managers deserve a 2nd chance but Bruce is not an attractive candidate. When they lost Darren Bent, Sunderland had problems scoring.

[Waggy76]

  On 18/02/2012 at 20:10, Mattyblue said:

I'm amazed Bruce is still in line for PL jobs.

Just look at Sunderland since he left..

He got the players there ok , but couldn;t get them to play ...Or was playing the wrong system , personally I would swap him for our clown this minute ..It will be interesting , lack of talent at Wolves like Rovers but they have more aggression and he could harness that short term ..As it looks like a done deal , will Black follow him down the M6 ?? If he does , that speaks volumes for Kean 4 assistants in a season , that most be some kind of football record ? ?

Maybe I am jumping the gun , just poss that no one will want to be the 4th !!!