Summer 2011 Transfer Window Part Two

[The Rover of Finland]

Olsson, Junior, Nzonzi, Nelsen and Robbo will play big part even when there will be big names coming in.

Does Piatti take free kicks?

[Ripleys love child]

Going to put my neck on the line here and say MGP would be a good LB. The reason I think that is because he has always been one for trackking back and putting a foot in and wins the majority of headers he goes for. Worth trying him there in pre season and seeing how he copes.

Good shout mate

[joey_big_nose]

So in a dream scenario and Kean landed most of his targets do we think he would play 4-5-1 with Hoilett / Piatti and the main striker all joining the attack or a more traditional 4-4-2? I only ask because even if we landed the players mentioned we don't have the personell robust and creative enough to play 2 in CM.

This Piatti sound good but I think I would personally prefer us to put some money into creative midfielder unless Formica or Rochina can step up into that role.

Also if Olsson was pushed back into LB where does this leave Givet? Available?

Nicko, is there any signs of anyone coming in for any of our fringe players? Realistically we should listen to any offers for:

Grella

Andrews

Pedersen

Dunn

Emerton

Kalinic

Blackman and more maybe

I would say that Givet would become one of the five centrebacks - Nelsen, Samba, Miranda, Givet, Hanley.

And regarding creative midfielders - I don't think we need anyone more on that front. Hoilett, Piatti, Formica and Rochina are all creative talents - clearly the emphasis is going to be creating from the forwards rather from the engine. However even if we get Jones there is a strong case for one more workhorse in the middle, as if either Jones or Nzonzi get injured we look very very brittle.

If we can really line up like this I will weep tears of joy. All the talk of top six might not be pie in the sky...:-

-------------------Robinson

Anyukov----Samba----Miranda----Olsson

---------------Jones-----Nzonzi

-----Hoilett-------Formica-----Piatti

----------------------Cisse

Subs:- Bunn, Nelsen, Givet, Lowe, Emerton, Daimaio, Rochina

Clearly Kean is favouring pace and direct wing play over a passing game, and to be honest I think it's the right route to go down. We just need to land one - from Niko it sounds like Piatti is possible - and from there we can push on and bring in a few more.

Very very exciting times.

[booth]

Some top names being mentioned. Hopefully we can sign some of them

[joey_big_nose]

Going to put my neck on the line here and say MGP would be a good LB. The reason I think that is because he has always been one for trackking back and putting a foot in and wins the majority of headers he goes for. Worth trying him there in pre season and seeing how he copes.

Theoretically he should be good - decent in the air also as well as a hard worker. However his acceleration and positional sense are poor. A decent winger would take him apart at left back.

[texasrover]

Going to put my neck on the line here and say MGP would be a good LB. The reason I think that is because he has always been one for trackking back and putting a foot in and wins the majority of headers he goes for. Worth trying him there in pre season and seeing how he copes.

not too sure about that one. tracks back, sure, but isn't a reliable tackler, lost the small amount of pace he had, and has never been a very good positional player (when full back is all about positioning. ask salgado). I can see him trying to do too much and getting robbed at least 10X a game.

[braddock]

Going to put my neck on the line here and say MGP would be a good LB. The reason I think that is because he has always been one for trackking back and putting a foot in and wins the majority of headers he goes for. Worth trying him there in pre season and seeing how he copes.

Tracks back well. That and his set pieces (which are overrated when compared to people who are actually famed for them) are his main attributes. He isn't a tackler though. He only tackles when he gets wound up and that happens about once every six games.

[Majiball]

I would say that Givet would become one of the five centrebacks - Nelsen, Samba, Miranda, Givet, Hanley.

And regarding creative midfielders - I don't think we need anyone more on that front. Hoilett, Piatti, Formica and Rochina are all creative talents - clearly the emphasis is going to be creating from the forwards rather from the engine. However even if we get Jones there is a strong case for one more workhorse in the middle, as if either Jones or Nzonzi get injured we look very very brittle.

If we can really line up like this I will weep tears of joy. All the talk of top six might not be pie in the sky...:-

-------------------Robinson

Anyukov----Samba----Miranda----Olsson

---------------Jones-----Nzonzi

-----Hoilett-------Formica-----Piatti

----------------------Cisse

Subs:- Bunn, Nelsen, Givet, Lowe, Emerton, Daimaio, Redondo

Clearly Kean is favouring pace and direct wing play over a passing game, and to be honest I think it's the right route to go down. We just need to land one - from Niko it sounds like Piatti is possible - and from there we can push on and bring in a few more.

Very very exciting times.

Not meaning to pooh on your parade but which one of Jones & N'zonzi has the ability to thread a pass for the front 4??? If we are to play that way we need a player in there who can play box to box and pass a ball. If Kean is to favour wing play as you say then Formica is a wasted player as we will only have one crossing target, Cisse.

I reckon as things stand we'll be seeing the diamond again with 2 up top. Joy.

[Tardyrover]

Going to put my neck on the line here and say MGP would be a good LB. The reason I think that is because he has always been one for trackking back and putting a foot in and wins the majority of headers he goes for. Worth trying him there in pre season and seeing how he copes.

He's no. 1 culprit for 'ducking out' of challenges, so not for me

[JW11]

Piatti!!!!

[braddock]

Not meaning to pooh on your parade but which one of Jones & N'zonzi has the ability to thread a pass for the front 4??? If we are to play that way we need a player in there who can play box to box and pass a ball. If Kean is to favour wing play as you say then Formica is a wasted player as we will only have one crossing target, Cisse.

I reckon as things stand we'll be seeing the diamond again with 2 up top. Joy.

Both can pass adequately. Getting a new Tugay isn't a priority when a simple pass to the wing will suffice. Jones has the ability to burst forward every so often too. If we are having such attacking wingers I'd far prefer solid midfielders.

[Rover & Out]

Nobody can now doubt the ambition of the new owners!

I'm happy to keep Pedersen and Emerton simply for the versatility that they offer, good players to have in a squad.

Sad to say it, but I struggle to see any place in the squad for Dunn this year, signings permitting.

Plenty of deadwood to be re-homed this summer!!

[Iceman]

I would say that Givet would become one of the five centrebacks - Nelsen, Samba, Miranda, Givet, Hanley.

And regarding creative midfielders - I don't think we need anyone more on that front. Hoilett, Piatti, Formica and Rochina are all creative talents - clearly the emphasis is going to be creating from the forwards rather from the engine. However even if we get Jones there is a strong case for one more workhorse in the middle, as if either Jones or Nzonzi get injured we look very very brittle.

If we can really line up like this I will weep tears of joy. All the talk of top six might not be pie in the sky...:-

-------------------Robinson

Anyukov----Samba----Miranda----Olsson

---------------Jones-----Nzonzi

-----Hoilett-------Formica-----Piatti

----------------------Cisse

Subs:- Bunn, Nelsen, Givet, Lowe, Emerton, Daimaio, Redondo

who is Redondo? thought he retired

[USABlue]

Great news even though I don't know most of the players mentioned. Why do I have this horrible feeling that none of it will come to fruition. Strange. WOuld love to see one or two top notch strikers in the famous Blue and White.

[joey_big_nose]

Not meaning to pooh on your parade but which one of Jones & N'zonzi has the ability to thread a pass for the front 4??? If we are to play that way we need a player in there who can play box to box and pass a ball. If Kean is to favour wing play as you say then Formica is a wasted player as we will only have one crossing target, Cisse.

I reckon as things stand we'll be seeing the diamond again with 2 up top. Joy.

Strongly disagree with that, we looked very good with the Jones and Nzonzi partnership at the end of last season. No clever passers but they retained possesion well and offloaded the ball out to the wingers. Hoilett and (if we sign him) Piatti have the ability to cut outside or inside. The full backs over lap. Lots of width, vast amounts of pace, with a bit of trickery coming from Formica dropping off outside the box.

No need for a Tugay type or anything like that. Far more creative personnel than anything we have had in the last four years.

who is Redondo? thought he retired

Sorry i meant Rondon! Brain meltdown.

[Pete1981]

Northern_Rover Northern Rover

Looks like developments in chase for Cisse, his agent now not commenting, that usually means something decisive has happened.

[phildinio]

who would i get on my shirt with all them signings

[joey_big_nose]

Northern_Rover Northern Rover

Looks like developments in chase for Cisse, his agent now not commenting, that usually means something decisive has happened.

GAHHH I'm not sure I can take the excitement....

who would i get on my shirt with all them signings

If we get all of them them I would happily put Barry White on the shirt and grow a pony tail.....

[JW11]

Pretty sure Piatti can play in a more central position aswell as well as on the wing and he can definitely pick a pass so surely he qualifies as the creative signing we need.

[yeti-dog]

You must find it hard going through life with this attitude. We're being linked to top players in positions we need to strengthen (strikers, wingers, centre back) and yet you still find a way to be negative. Its quite impressive to be honest. I just cannot understand why you are trying to focus on every negative issue you can find when there is no real need. Last year we got Benjani on a free and Diouf on loan. You'd rather be back in those days?? No, thought not.

When Sept 1st runs around then we'll know how well Kean/Venky's have done. Why dont you wait until then before you start criticising transfer activity that hasnt even happened yet..

Spot on fella.

We've just been given a pretty comprehensive update from Nicko which suggests ambition and potentially, our most interesting transfer window for many,many years; yet still some can't help but whinge.

It's also noteworthy that some of the chief milk-curdlers are neither seen nor heard at present(you know who you are..). It's like if they can't be divisive,churlish and negative they can't bring themselves to be involved in what's potentially a Rovers Revolution.

[leerovers1980]

Pretty sure Piatti can play in a more central position aswell as well as on the wing and he can definitely pick a pass so surely he qualifies as the creative signing we need.

just what i was thinking, watched him a few times last season and he drifts in a lot and he can use both feet and pick out a lovely pass, he also good at dead ball situations, out of all the names mentioned he is the one i would like signed the most, has more to his game and something we have been missing for a long time

[Veevs]

I would say that Givet would become one of the five centrebacks - Nelsen, Samba, Miranda, Givet, Hanley.

And regarding creative midfielders - I don't think we need anyone more on that front. Hoilett, Piatti, Formica and Rochina are all creative talents - clearly the emphasis is going to be creating from the forwards rather from the engine. However even if we get Jones there is a strong case for one more workhorse in the middle, as if either Jones or Nzonzi get injured we look very very brittle.

If we can really line up like this I will weep tears of joy. All the talk of top six might not be pie in the sky...:-

-------------------Robinson

Anyukov----Samba----Miranda----Olsson

---------------Jones-----Nzonzi

-----Hoilett-------Formica-----Piatti

----------------------Cisse

Subs:- Bunn, Nelsen, Givet, Lowe, Emerton, Daimaio, Redondo

Clearly Kean is favouring pace and direct wing play over a passing game, and to be honest I think it's the right route to go down. We just need to land one - from Niko it sounds like Piatti is possible - and from there we can push on and bring in a few more.

Very very exciting times.

Agree with you there.. we will certainly have a pretty flexible team.

Personally think Kean will go 4-4-2 with the fullbacks occasionally overlapping, with allot of potential for hitting them on the break with the pace in that team.

Whatever happens I reckon Kean is aiming for a more traditional 442, but if we land those we are looking at this sort of side would scare me.

-----------Robinson

Anyukov - Miranda - Samba - Olsson

Jones - NZonzi

Jnr - Piatti

Rondon/Daimaio

Cisse/Keane/Vuci

Both Olsson and Anyukov are good going forward, Jnr and Piatti can play as forwards, second strikers or in the hole and we will have a prety tough center to the team.

And Maji I really don't agree we will be desperate for a ball playing creative midfielder, I seem to remember our league winning side didn't exactly shine in the middle of the park when it came to creativity.. was all about the wings and the strikers and that system still works.

[Balwer]

Pretty sure Piatti can play in a more central position aswell as well as on the wing and he can definitely pick a pass so surely he qualifies as the creative signing we need.

I think that's more as a second striker rather than as a true central midfielder.

[Majiball]

Both can pass adequately. Getting a new Tugay isn't a priority when a simple pass to the wing will suffice. Jones has the ability to burst forward every so often too. If we are having such attacking wingers I'd far prefer solid midfielders.

Trolling me are you? For starters Tugay wasn't a box to box player as I suggested we need, but if you had any involvement or knowledge of football as opposed to an agenda to troll me you would know that. Jones is a poor passer of the ball, proven last season with us, N'zonzi loves to pass sideways again because I watch him play and since when has adequate been enough at premier league level? So lets just pass it out wide constantly and watch teams force us to play through the middle or cut out the wide passes. No successful team at the level we are supposedly aiming for eliminates one of the attacking areas, right, left and central, they attack where they need to and ensure they have players that can do so. Solid midfielder doesn't mean they have to lack technical ability, but then again if you think Tugay is a box to box midfielder then there's little point in this conversation either.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Going to put my neck on the line here and say MGP would be a good LB. The reason I think that is because he has always been one for trackking back and putting a foot in and wins the majority of headers he goes for. Worth trying him there in pre season and seeing how he copes.

Get your neck back in again matey, absolutely no pace, gets a tackle in about once a month, daydreams off the ball, can head the ball but he doesn't know where to. Yeah he'd make a great fullback.