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Summer 2011 Transfer Window Part Two


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TCO - it is legal correctness, apologies if you don't understand the nuances.

Oh I understand, what I don't understand is the need to say anything at all if you can't say the whole story even in the unlikely event you know something.

Never understand why people seem to get off on being 'in the know' it's pathetic really.

There's obviously a handful of people on here with real inside info then a load more who know no more than the rest of us or pester people on twitter / PMs etc in a desperate attempt to look clued up. The people with the real links stand out a mile.

Why do people do it?

Anyway on I've heard from a good source we're after a top class midfielder. :glare:

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Spot on...waste of a career to be honest. May epitomises everything that's so wrong about the modern day footballer.

Prostituted himself on the altar of a big wage packet and forgot the idea was to play football along the way.

The idea was, like the rest of us, to provide for his family. I think the money he made at United certainly did that plus he picked up medals along the way. I don't suspect he feels it was a waste of a career but I guess the guys that play the game for a living look at it differently from those of us who merely watch it as supporters.

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Odds on sparky for the 2nd coming are down from 25/1 to 13/8.........bloody football eh!.

I asked the question to the board earlier about whether or not the odds slashing meant something significant was going on, but nobody seemed to believe it would happen.

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I asked the question to the board earlier about whether or not the odds slashing meant something significant was going on, but nobody seemed to believe it would happen.

I have no idea if this is true but it'd make sense to cut the odds when a certain number have made a bet or a certain financial limit has been met. That way if it does happen they'd be losing a lot less money than if they'd have continued giving the higher paying out odds.

Just a theory from a non-gambler.

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He was a massive success for the reserves - we won the B Group Champion because of him, if I remember correctly, until he dislocated his shoulder. I would say he is a success, unless you want to be really narrow about it and classify a success only when the player contributes solely to the first-team sqaud and nothing else. Even then, he has barely played for first-team, so you can't count him as a failure based on that either.

He's given an indication via his performances in the ressies that he has the potential to succeed at senior level. That is all you can say about him.

Formica hasn't even done that. You agree Santa was a failure so its 1 out of 4 for Kean in the transfer market (and 2 of them were loans).

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I have no idea if this is true but it'd make sense to cut the odds when a certain number have made a bet or a certain financial limit has been met. That way if it does happen they'd be losing a lot less money than if they'd have continued giving the higher paying out odds.

Just a theory from a non-gambler.

That's a good point, though odds are often lowered for the obvious candidate regardless of number of backers acting almost as a safety net. Besides which, when obvious names are up with the favourites, it sometimes means that the nothing is likely to change as bookies lower odds in these scenarios to try and tempt the odd backer to put some money up on those who the punters assume to be favourites or have a connection with the club.

I don't think it will happen, though I am a huge fan of Hughes.

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Hopefully 11=12 will line up as such:

Robinson

Corchina (le mans) Miranda Givet (if Samba goes) Olsson

Bentley Kayal Jones Gamst

Hoilett/Macheda Llorente

Corchina - 4million

Kayal - 6 million

Jones - 4 million

Bentley - 6 million

Macheda - loan/4 million

Miranda - FREE

Llorente - 10 million

Total 34 million

I'd say it was a great young team ... Robbo as the oldest player! Full of potenctial and a new target man in LLorente!

That's not my idea of a great team. Any team with MGP in it is playing with 10 men and Ollsen at fullback- make that 9.5 men Bentley at £ 6 mill -no. Someone once interviewed Tina Turner in her home and came out saying " I didn't realise you could spend a Million dollars in Woolworths " ! Now I know what they meant.

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Ben I don't think the 12M release clause exists for Samba I think it is pure guesswork from Anderson that figure has been plucked out from an earlier article as Hertha have a sell-on clause & was stating we would need to be asking 12M+ but so far as been said there is no release clause but I do believe Mrs D will not let him leave just like that & we will put up a fight on another subject Nicko any news on Vucinic as Juve have now gone for someone else & will there be an 11'oclocker?.

I've never seen that clause referred to in any other article so I'm hoping its rubbish.

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That's a good point, though odds are often lowered for the obvious candidate regardless of number of backers acting almost as a safety net. Besides which, when obvious names are up with the favourites, it sometimes means that the nothing is likely to change as bookies lower odds in these scenarios to try and tempt the odd backer to put some money up on those who the punters assume to be favourites or have a connection with the club.

I don't think it will happen, though I am a huge fan of Hughes.

I think it's a question for ol' Bill Hill. I imagine there are numerous reasons as to why odds are changed.

I do like Hughes but I want to give Kean a chance (cue the 'give me some of what you're on' comments).

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I'd love Hughes back but there will be nothing in it.

It will be a dead Market pretty much nobody will be putting bets on a job that isn't vacant so any money going on Hughes would have seen a huge swing in his odds.

At least I think that's what happens

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But is it better to have a proven and competent manager, with experience of bringing top players to our club for a year or two, or stick with the nobody we currently have and risk him taking us into another relegation scrap...?

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Spot on...waste of a career to be honest. May epitomises everything that's so wrong about the modern day footballer.

Prostituted himself on the altar of a big wage packet and forgot the idea was to play football along the way.

Doesn't mean his observations on the current situation at Ewood aren't spot on though does it? Shoot the messenger and all that..........

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YD - can you really blame the lad in making himself and family financially secure for life ?

It's interesting as to how many posters have been saying that "money talks" and it doesn't matter even if 'little' Stephen Kean is our manager. Little difference between this statement and what May did except that he went to a 'big' club with a 'big' manager.

Yeah he went to a big club with a big manager and played the odd game for the first team and a few for the reserves and the rest on the bench.

Sure there's nothing wrong with looking after your family, but for what he was on at Rovers at the time, he probably earned a lot more in a week than I did in a year, but to do that he would be playing every week at Rovers.

At Utd he would play less often, turned out to be quite less but for more money, sounds like greed more than wanting to further his career, any big money decent player that Rovers bring in will play more in the first season here than May did for Utd the whole time he was there (excluding Santa Cruz from that though)

Come on down Mark Hughes and save us from the bullshitter.

I can't see it, the owners seem to be behind Kean, but you never know, although after missing out on the Villa and Chelsea jobs, his agent is probably touting him around (that's Hughes not Kean by the way)

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