Summer 2011 Transfer Window Part Two

[Gav]

Brilliant 50/50 you should'nt stick your neck on the line like that.

So Cisse will either join or he won't

i shall hang on your every word,

what wisdom you do have.

anymore nuggets of gold alan

samba going is 50/50 i suppose.

If you don't like it don't read it, simple

[joey_big_nose]

That's not true. Wages are an overhead, as long as the total comes in below our turnover then the wages are covered.

We just need to recoup the investment made in the transfer fee.

True. A top striker who scores you goals is probably worth 40k a week basic just for keeping you competitive and in the league. You add money on top of that if you think he can propel you up the table and you can sell him on.

Of all the people we have been linked to Cisse does look like he could justify being our top earner. Really hope we push this one through. One top physical striker has a huge advantage in that he can give the likes of Hoilett, Rochina and Formica the room on the pitch to flourish so there is a real multiplier in there.

The main problem is that Hoilett, Robinson and Samba will all want to be earning close to the top earner and to be honest deserve it asa they are our top performers. So giving Cisse a huge amount of money would put real pressure on our wage structure. If Rochina, Formica,, Olsson, Nzonzi etc push on then they will also want commesurate increases. So the cumilative cost in say two years could be massive.... But then that is a problem across the top leagues in Europe to be honest. Very few clubs have managed to keep their wages down, we have been a bit of an exception on that front.

[Myles Anderson]

If you don't like it don't read it, simple

And you could have done the same with my reply but you didn't why?

[chocky]

I wish I'd a quid for every time I've read this message.

Then take note,

[joey_big_nose]

Just seen the story linking Goulon to FC Koln on the Transfer Links thread. Bit of an odd one there - Koln came tenth in the Budasliga last season so no mugs. Wonder why they want Goulon? Maybe there is more to him than meets the eye?

[imy9]

And you could have done the same with my reply but you did'nt why?

Ca'nt think why he woul'dve done that lol!

[Andrew__Morris]

Can someone tell me why we are not in for David Vaughan? He was Blackpools player of the year last year and is free. Not a big signing sure but a decent on none the less

[Myles Anderson]

Can someone tell me why we are not in for David Vaughan? He was Blackpools player of the year last year and is free. Not a big signing sure but a decent on none the less

I think D.Vaughan has a Britsh passport, he won't be on our radar.

[RovertheHill]

Brilliant 50/50 you should'nt stick your neck on the line like that.

So Cisse will either join or he won't

i shall hang on your every word,

what wisdom you do have.

anymore nuggets of gold alan

samba going is 50/50 i suppose.

Here we go... every window

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

If Rochina, Formica,, Olsson, Nzonzi etc push on then they will also want commesurate increases. So the cumilative cost in say two years could be massive.... But then that is a problem across the top leagues in Europe to be honest. Very few clubs have managed to keep their wages down, we have been a bit of an exception on that front.

Might cost a few quid but if those players improve alongside the other 3 you mentioned we'd have a hell of a good side!

[nicko]

Brilliant 50/50 you should'nt stick your neck on the line like that.

So Cisse will either join or he won't

i shall hang on your every word,

what wisdom you do have.

anymore nuggets of gold alan

samba going is 50/50 i suppose.

I await your worthwhile thoughts.

Might be a long wait, mind.

Nicko reckons 50/50

Marquez? not to my knowledge.

When you get a story, smart ass, be sure to let us know.

[roversfan99]

Nicko, have you heard anything in the Vicente or Alou Diarra rumours?

I hope we can get a deal done with Freiburg for Cisse, we need to get a goalscorer then hopefully things can fall into place.

I also hope we can get Miranda ahead of Atletico.

[nicko]

Nicko, have you heard anything in the Vicente or Alou Diarra rumours?

Vicente has been doing the rounds for a bit, Diarra is new.

But as it stands neither are on the short list I have heard of.

o.k sweetheart will do

i'll pm you when i know more, it's only 0/100 at the moment though.

Thanks for confirming an instant suspicion.

Clown.

[Tardyrover]

Can someone tell me why we are not in for David Vaughan? He was Blackpools player of the year last year and is free. Not a big signing sure but a decent on none the less

because he's garbage

[Mercer]

sunderland close to signing craig gardner - we should be all over this deal

Agree.

We seem to keep missing midfielder opportunities, dilly-dallied over Adam end of Dec. / early Jan., didn't move for O'Hara early Jan. and now Gardener seems set to go elsewhere. All very effective midfielders who would have been a massive improvement on what we have.

[nicko]

Agree.

We seem to keep missing opportunities, dilly-dallied over Adam end of Dec. / early Jan., didn't move for O'Hara early Jan. and now Gardener seems set to go elsewhere. All very effective midfielders who would have been a massive improvement on what we have.

I know you have been peddling the tired old Adam line for months. But you do know that Blackpool turned down over £8 million for him in January because they were not seling.

I seem to recall you thinking that less than half of that would have got him.

So how did that pan out? He was never going to move on the cheap. He had a great run and bigger teams came in. Karl Oyston is a stubborn old mule but no fool.

O'Hara is no better than what you have. Gardner is ok, but likewise. Jones would be more effective than those two if the price was right.

And hopefully you can find a better player than O'Hara and Gardner in this window.

[neophox]

I'll take BPF advice see you later..

[Mercer]

I know you have been peddling the tired old Adam line for months. But you do know that Blackpool turned down over £8 million for him in January because they were not seling.

I seem to recall you thinking that less than half of that would have got him.

So how did that pan out? He was never going to move on the cheap. He had a great run and bigger teams came in. Karl Oyston is a stubborn old mule but no fool.

Firmly believe through friend connected with B'pool that £5m would have got him very early doors in Jan. before he started pulling-up trees. Once he really hit form, from about 10 Jan., and people started taking notice then agree that he went beyond our reach. Seem to remember you suggesting that we played a waiting game to see what others first did. However, that's history now.

O'Hara is no better than what you have. No better than Grella ? Gardner is ok, but likewise. Gets fair share of goals. Jones would be more effective than those two if the price was right. Agree, with price caveat.

And hopefully you can find a better player than O'Hara and Gardner in this window. Here's hoping.

[budha]

O'Hara is no better than what you have. Gardner is ok, but likewise.

Really? We've lost 2 of our 3 starting central midfielders, and we're left with Grella, Andrews, Dunn, Linganzi, Lowe, Pedersen and Emerton to compete for the two spots next to N'Zonzi. I would say either one would be better than Andrews, who probably would be starting with either Pedersen or Emerton as Dunn and Grella wouldn't be fit if the season was to start now. Hopefully this isn't the situation come August, but everything else is just if's at the moment.

[Neal]

Cheers Nicko. Hope there is some truth in Marquez, good player. I have a hunch that we'll sign him.

[otto man]

Agree.

We seem to keep missing midfielder opportunities, dilly-dallied over Adam end of Dec. / early Jan., didn't move for O'Hara early Jan. and now Gardener seems set to go elsewhere. All very effective midfielders who would have been a massive improvement on what we have.

wow! You should be our manager. You've just got all the answers haven't you? or then again maybe you should take another prozac and hope your depression gets better soon.

[47er]

Really? We've lost 2 of our 3 starting central midfielders, and we're left with Grella, Andrews, Dunn, Linganzi, Lowe, Pedersen and Emerton to compete for the two spots next to N'Zonzi. I would say either one would be better than Andrews, who probably would be starting with either Pedersen or Emerton as Dunn and Grella wouldn't be fit if the season was to start now. Hopefully this isn't the situation come August, but everything else is just if's at the moment.

8 mid-fielders competing for 2 spots and none of them good enough. It really is pathetic.

On second thoughts I'd exempt Emerton from that criticism. After an age of being really ordinary he came good last season.

[joey_big_nose]

I would say both Gardner and O'Hara would have improved our team. Nzonzi has come on but only really looked a player in the last eight games or so. Apart from that our options for central midfield are appalling - Grella, Andrews, Pedersen, Dunn.

Grella is always injured. Andrews is a worker but positionally awful and gives the ball away. Pedersen and Dunn are attacking players with limited mobility who struggle to cover the ground when put in the centre.

We need to bring in at least one desperately, and ideally shift two out.

[Majiball]

Fergie had Jones' ear for a while ...if you believe the stories.

He can attract the best players in the world..Jones would have been easy.

Nowt to do with what Rovers could offer, it doesn't even compare to what Utd can.

(In my opinion)

And Kean and Venky's had access to Jones ear everyday for 10 months.

Champions league football, Winning the premier league etc. If Ferdinand gets injured, concidering his age and his injury history there's every chance, he'll get plenty of play time. Players have always come and gone and despite a very generous wage offer from Rovers he still left. Some of you will never give Venkey's achance. You firdst accuse them of not spending then when the do spend you accuse them of something else.

No as always I accuse them of being Liars and deluded. They have had 10 months to display actions that reflect their words and as yet they have not.

We do not have to sell our best players and so we insert a buy-out clause so small we got less for him than Duff and Carroll cost 35 million, prior to us sorting out this contract for Jones. What did the club say when he signed???? We want him here for the long-run.

Being at Manchester United is the appeal. Playing champions league football is the appeal. We could have offered him more money, we could have been run under different management but you cannot deny that if Manchester United want to buy one of our players, that player will want to go there.

You're getting ridiculously carried away if you genuinely believe the 'heart and soul' is being ripped out of our club. If we lose Samba it'll be because a bigger team wants him, Arsenal. That's the nature of football. That happened under the Walker Trust and happens to every football club. Fabregas wants to go to Barcelona, Cristiano Ronaldo wanted to move to Madrid.. it happens to everyone regardless of management.

If we had lost Jones to an Aston Villa level of club (like Warnock/Friedel under our last regime or 'good previous foundations' as you put it) then I think your post would have some degree of validation, but to criticise the owners because they couldn't stop Jones from going to Utd is over the top. Its a shame but he wanted to go for footballing reasons we couldnt offer.

So being on the bench in champions league matches is an appeal, wow I don't know any footballers who are happy being on the bench. Jones signed a new deal in Febuary this year less than 6 months after signing a new 5 year deal and amid serious rumours of big bids from Arsenal and others. So Carroll blows the world away with a 35 million pound fee and we insert/agree to a release clause for peanuts and lauch an investigation once it all comes out. Farce of situation and all of the acclaimed footballing expertise supposedly in place at the club and yet this happens.

The heart and soul is gone from Rovers, people (JW, Finn et al) and the trust between club and fans has been lost and if they continue with their policy of lies then it will never be rekindled.

Thanks for highlighting players move I'd never have guessed that but I love the way you highlight players in which they only moved when everything was right for the club. Does Fab have a sell me cheap clause to Barca, no. Did Ronaldo not move for circa 80 million. Not one of those clubs would ever have allowed a buy-out clause that did not favour the club. We've also had serious issues in the past with them and now we see all the same old mistakes being made by new people.

How to stop Jones going to United, don't put into contracts buy-out clauses that are not way off the scale. The fact we allowed one at less than his value just makes me think we either have incompetent negotiators or we were always willing to sell him to raise funds. Combine that with not selling our best players as we were promised, well I smell something fishy in it all. Rumours abounded that Venky's were willing to sell Jones to raise funds and surprise surprise he's gone less than 6 months after they started. Oh and wasn't it Kean who said we are delighted to have tied Jones down on a long term deal as we want him here a long time or some such, whoops.

[47er]

wow! You should be our manager. You've just got all the answers haven't you? or then again maybe you should take another prozac and hope your depression gets better soon.

The guy has made genuine points. Why throw that rubbish at him?

That's the sort of post which is ruining the MB.