Chris Samba => Arsenal/Spurs

[Stuart]

If Desai really cared about Rovers being relegated she would have addressed the manager position some time ago, and put her hand in her pocket for some decent players.

Whilst I agree it would be folly to sell to a relegation rival, let's not kid ourselves - this is all about pushing the price up as much as possible.

Samba alone will not keep us up, by the way. After all he's been virtually ever present in the side that has been in the bottom 3 nearly all season. What we need is some PL quality players not 6 month "leased" players.

If we have another miracle last chance Sunday this season, we can look forward to more of this crap next season. With about 8-10,000 fewer people in the ground.

Fine, don't sell Samba but don't make out like you give a ###### about Rovers. Your neglect to date exposes how little you care for your "baby".

[gumboots]

Anuradha has made her decision. It will be interesting to see if Samba sees out the next six months helping Rovers survive or throws his toys out the pram and rots on the sidelines

http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/2012/01/19/2856007/christopher-samba-told-he-will-not-be-sold-this-month-in

Not a fan of Venky's, in fact i hope they are the ones who leave at the end of the season but i for one am happy with their position here. Let him leave in the summer for no less than 15 million pound. First in best dressed. (hopefully PSG)

so she is still alive. I was seriously beginning to wonder whether a mysterious virus had wipes out the entire Rao family. It seems Wayne Wilde now knows what you have to do to get to speak to the owners - throw a massive Violet Elizabeth Bott type tantrum and threaten to Skweem and skweem until you make yourself sick and then she'll listen. Mind you it helps if you are also worth more than 7.5 million to her

[chris]

I'm totally on Samba's side, I would do everything I can to get out, everything and anything. Kean and Venkys can live in a lie and they expect the rest of the world to be stupid enough to follow a long.

Shows ambition is more important then money.

[Wimbledon Rover]

Interesting comments from Lawro this morning (who BTW has us down for a loss)re Samba being the type of Head it, Kick it, Clear it, type of player that doesn't really suit the top 6 football clubs. I think he's right!

[Mattyblue]

What kind of defender is his beloved Liverpool's Jamie Carragher supposed to be then?

[EgyptianPete]

I'm totally on Samba's side, I would do everything I can to get out, everything and anything. Kean and Venkys can live in a lie and they expect the rest of the world to be stupid enough to follow a long.

Shows ambition is more important then money.

Well he should not have signed a 5 year contract then, best paid player by a mile, and it dosent matter what Venkys or Kean said to him when he resigned, just because Hughes has come calling, stay until the end of the season play like a captain should and then bugger off.

[LeChuck]

Well he should not have signed a 5 year contract then

Why?

Venky's made a lot of promises when they took over (Champions League, big name players etc); it was bold of him to commit to those plans by signing a long term deal.

What has transpired since then is that Venky's were full of bull. Samba shouldn't be bound for 5 years because he was fed a load of lies when he signed his contract.

[Telf]

He should still stay till the summer to get us out of the ######

http://www.google.com/3757-samba_told_no_chance.html

[FFP83]

One day when Samba has retired hel be telling his kids all about his career.

"So dad what did you win as a footballer?"

"er nothing."

"Oh ok but tell us about your favourite CL nights like playing at the San Siro or the Nou Camp."

"I never played CL."

"Why? You told us you were a good footballer!! Were you not good enough to play for a CL team though?"

"No I was easily good enough to play for Arsenal, Spurs or PSG but I stayed loyal to a club called Blackburn"

"Who?"

"Exactly"

It makes me laugh when people think footballers are greedy and just follow the money. A lot of players want to play the highest level they can and be trully proud of their career. Matt Le Tissier turned down us and Arsenal in the past and yeah sure hes a god at southampton but he must look back at his career and wonder "what if", sure hes got lots of goal of the month trophies but if he came to us or Arsenal or a host of other clubs that wanted him hed have a few trophies or at least CL nights to remember.

When your on 60k a week going somewhere to earn 80 - 120k really isnt gonna make that much difference. Your already a millionaire, you can buy whatever you want. People think Gareth Barry went to City just for the money. Really? Hes won an FA cup already, played CL football and now look like favourites for the PL, this is something he wouldnt have experienced if he stayed at Villa. Normal rubbish jobs that we do, money is a huge factor, of course we would go do the same job somewhere else for double or triple our salary but these footballers have so much money its just numbers on a bank statement, when they are finacially secure its their ambitions they want to fullfil and I think fair dos to them.

Chris has given us 100% on the pitch and when we do sell him it should be for a hefty profit, hes also done a lot to develop Hanley as a player. I wish Chris and his family all the best, id just prefer him to go to Spurs, Arsenal or PSG than QPR but its his choice.

[LeChuck]

Oh I wish the "+" button was there. Excellent post FFP83.

Just to add something else...even back in Le Tissier's day, the difference in wages wasn't that much between the top clubs and the rest. Was it Bryan Douglas that said in an interview recently that, if he was playing today, he wouldn't have been able to remain loyal to Rovers because the money on offer at bigger clubs would be too tempting, whereas in those days it was pretty much the same wherever you were?

[chris]

I'm totally on Samba's side, I would do everything I can to get out, everything and anything. Kean and Venkys can live in a lie and they expect the rest of the world to be stupid enough to follow a long.

Shows ambition is more important then money.

The fact he signed a contract only means we get more money for a sale, Blackburn Rovers is beyond a joke of a club as Cryers said Venky's fooled us all but no one could have predicted this nightmare. I feel sorry for Chris, he is too good to put up with these liars.

He has every right to force a transfer but we need a fair price though.

[Eddie]

You feel sorry for him? The player earning circa 60k a week who we plucked from obscurity and have done everything that we can to give a good career and make lots of money? I don't. He signed his contract, he took on the armband, he needs to keep his head down and his mouth shut. If he wants to express his concerns behind the scenes then I am all for it, that is part of his role as captain, but no player should go crying to the press.

[Puffsan]

I agere with Eddie. Samba isn't stupid. When he signed a new contract last year it was because he didn't get sold and he got greedy. If he really wanted to leave that badly he shouldn't have signed that contract. Now he has to wait until rovers are ready to let him go and when they get a fee they think are acceptable. Samba knew we never were gonna challenge for a cl spot. Promises are probably broken in regards to ambition, but ###### happens samba.

Feel sorry for a any rovers player? They get a shitload of money playing football, they have lots of spare time, they get breakfast lunch, their clothes washed, rovers even clean their cars!!!

I will never feel sorry for a person who have those priveligies just because their egocentric personalities need to play CL to be worshiped even more. Cause that's what it is all about, more attention

[Kelbo]

I agere with Eddie. Samba isn't stupid. When he signed a new contract last year it was because he didn't get sold and he got greedy. If he really wanted to leave that badly he shouldn't have signed that contract. Now he has to wait until rovers are ready to let him go and when they get a fee they think are acceptable. Samba knew we never were gonna challenge for a cl spot. Promises are probably broken in regards to ambition, but ###### happens samba.

Feel sorry for a any rovers player? They get a shitload of money playing football, they have lots of spare time, they get breakfast lunch, their clothes washed, rovers even clean their cars!!!

I will never feel sorry for a person who have those priveligies just because their egocentric personalities need to play CL to be worshiped even more. Cause that's what it is all about, more attention

If he has a good solicitor and those promises of investment etc were made in a meeting with his agent, then I think he could force a move, a verbal agreement which at the time was made to persuade the player to sign, would I feel be legally binding. You sign a contract to purchase something, if its not as described, the contract means bugger all.

[yorkblue]

Samba will be sold between 10.30 p.m. and midnight on 31st January 2012 leaving no time to buy anyone and the money will go straight to the money trough to be divided up.

[FFP83]

Re watch the interview with Samba after the last day of last season at Wolves.

He says "I NEVER want to go through that again"

and I know exactly how he feels, last season was bad for my health!!!

So in the summer we all expected the big names that Venkys promised us and a top 10 finish Kean promised us.

Its now 20/01/2012 and we are flirting with relegation once again. Dann was quite a big signing but only after we sold Phil Jones arguably one of our best players and valuable assets. Yakubu has been class but we only signed him because everyone else thought he was overweight and over the hill.

Basically an Adebayor type major signing never materialised and we are stuck down the bottom again. Chris Samba doesnt want to do this for the next four years when he has the talent to be playing for a top 6 team. Kean says he should wait until the youngsters come good, which im sure they will but that will only take us to 8th at highest but probably 10th - 12th. Again does Samba want to waste the best years of his career so he can finally reach the pinnacle of finishing 9th?

Im chuffed Brad Friedel is playing for Spurs now and sort of challenging for the title. I just feel sorry for him that its come so late in his career and I totally understand why Samba would rather do this sooner than later

[BPF]

Re watch the interview with Samba after the last day of last season at Wolves.

we are flirting with relegation once again.

Flirting!? We are having sex with it!

[FFP83]

I agere with Eddie. Samba isn't stupid. When he signed a new contract last year it was because he didn't get sold and he got greedy. If he really wanted to leave that badly he shouldn't have signed that contract. Now he has to wait until rovers are ready to let him go and when they get a fee they think are acceptable. Samba knew we never were gonna challenge for a cl spot. Promises are probably broken in regards to ambition, but ###### happens samba.

Feel sorry for a any rovers player? They get a shitload of money playing football, they have lots of spare time, they get breakfast lunch, their clothes washed, rovers even clean their cars!!!

I will never feel sorry for a person who have those priveligies just because their egocentric personalities need to play CL to be worshiped even more. Cause that's what it is all about, more attention

I REALLY dont think its about attention as most players at top clubs dont even mingle with the fans and Samba is a big fish in a small pond, I wouldnt say hes even worshiped with us never mind at a big club where he would be "just another player".

If they wanted attention they could go on Celebrity Big Brother! I think its about a sense of achievemnet. So far Samba has achieved a 10th place finish. He plays for Congo so he isnt going to have any great World Cup memories to look back on. He wants to achieve something at club level and fair dos to him. Its not about money as he could be playing in the middle east or China for a lot more than PL clubs will offer him. Its about prestige and looking back on his career and feeling like he achieved something.

[Amo]

I don't feel sorry for Samba but I understand his reasons for wanting out. However, as a paid professional, he should make himself available for selection or be fined for a breach of contract.

[Eddie]

If he has a good solicitor and those promises of investment etc were made in a meeting with his agent, then I think he could force a move, a verbal agreement which at the time was made to persuade the player to sign, would I feel be legally binding. You sign a contract to purchase something, if its not as described, the contract means bugger all.

Good luck with that one.

[Hughesy]

It makes me laugh when people think footballers are greedy and just follow the money. A lot of players want to play the highest level they can and be trully proud of their career.

When your on 60k a week going somewhere to earn 80 - 120k really isnt gonna make that much difference. Your already a millionaire, you can buy whatever you want.

Normal rubbish jobs that we do, money is a huge factor, of course we would go do the same job somewhere else for double or triple our salary but these footballers have so much money its just numbers on a bank statement, when they are finacially secure its their ambitions they want to fullfil and I think fair dos to them.

So Samba has ambitions of champs league footy and titles, why hand a request in following QPR's 2 bids? Because nobody else has bid.

Why did he sign a new deal, rather than walk away for free sooner?! Did he HONESTLY expect top 4 footy here any time soon?

Why did we hear all the noises about him wanting a big signing in fee as he's never had that? Still sure it's not about money and the glitz of London/ Paris?

Oh and what about Gary Cahill? Took him 2 weeks to agree a deal with Chelsea because he was asking for £120k despite already being minted from his time at Bolton on £40k+ when titles is all he wanted?!? Don't be so naive!

[LeChuck]

Don't be so naive!

I've heard it all now!

[Parsonblue]

So Samba has ambitions of champs league footy and titles, why hand a request in following QPR's 2 bids? Because nobody else has bid.

Why did he sign a new deal, rather than walk away for free sooner?! Did he HONESTLY expect top 4 footy here any time soon?

Why did we hear all the noises about him wanting a big signing in fee as he's never had that? Still sure it's not about money and the glitz of London/ Paris?

Oh and what about Gary Cahill? Took him 2 weeks to agree a deal with Chelsea because he was asking for £120k despite already being minted from his time at Bolton on £40k+ when titles is all he wanted?!? Don't be so naive!

I can't see what the problem is Hughesy. He's a professional footballer and is chasing BOTH money and a club that will achieve better things than the Rovers over the next few years. I have no doubt that he was sold the "Venky Dream" and now realises that it was little more than a pipedream. The glamour, glitz and money of London/Paris or a one way ticket to the Championship with the Rovers? No wonder he wants to get out and I suspect he won't be alone come the summer.

[m1st]

I'm just catching up with the last couple of days on this thread.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/231013/Chris-Samba-to-stay-in-cold/

I love the way the Daily Star refers to Venky's man in Brazil as the "Brazilian fixer"! Wonder if they know what his "day job" is?

If we have another miracle last chance Sunday this season, we can look forward to more of this crap next season. With about 8-10,000 fewer people in the ground.

I fear the last Sunday of this season [mired in the middle, at best, of the relegation mini-League and playing away to a Chelsea team which will probably be desperate for points for European qualification] will be very different from the last Sunday of last season [at the top of the relegation mini-League and playing away to a team which was below us}.

Just to add something else...even back in Le Tissier's day, the difference in wages wasn't that much between the top clubs and the rest. Was it Bryan Douglas that said in an interview recently that, if he was playing today, he wouldn't have been able to remain loyal to Rovers because the money on offer at bigger clubs would be too tempting, whereas in those days it was pretty much the same wherever you were?

With respect, LeChuck, the majority of Bryan Douglas's career was played in a different era [that of the maximum wage] from Le Tissier's.

When Le Tissier was playing for Southampton, the maximum wage had been abolished and, while the difference between what a player can get now at clubs at the top end of the Premier League and at Rovers is sizeable, it was more substantial when Le Tissier played than it had been, even at the end of Duggie's career.

[LeChuck]

I should have separated those situations with something, I didn't intend to make a direct link.

The point was meant to be that people look back on the old days with rose-tinted specs, as if players had more loyalty back then...but loyalty wasn't tested like it is today, and I reckon 99% of players back then would have left for the top teams if they were around today...just as Douglas admitted he would.

Even coming back to nearer the present, I don't think Le Tissier would have stayed at a lower half Premier League team if he was playing today. The gap in fortunes is almost incomparable, even to that era. Also, the idea of Champions League/European Cup being the holy grail didn't exist back then either. Rightly or wrongly, that is how players view their careers now.