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Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

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Maybe so, but how can you negotiate with any credibility on something you know nothing about?

Totally agree.

If she's trying to negotiate down the price of a player, how is she going to justify this with the selling club?

She doesn't know what players are worth to a team, she doesn't understand football.

Bad, bad feeling about this.

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Yes, and an astute business woman who states that she has no clue about football is the person to do it.

I was so naive, this seems to be the perfect solution.

Not saying she's the perfect fit to do it, just saying you can't design by committee! Somebody has to say yes or no rather than the running round we seem to have been doing over the last few weeks! Live or die by it, someone has to take control!

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Are you a passionate Rovers fan Matty? You haven't mentioned that before :)

Spurs are no mugs when it comes to valuations and negotiations. The idea of taking them for a ride with player exchanges is an optimistic one at best. I'd imgainge that they value Samba and Palacios pretty much equally, for example.

Never mind that. Spurs are the ones that want the transfer not us. That SHOULD put us in the best position to make demands not meekly take their valuations. Let's stopbeing so soft and stand our corner. We would happily keep Samba if they do not meet our demands.

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I am also led to believe that Mrs D is personally taking charge of transfer's.

I heard that from someone yesterday. It would be good if she had put more effort into finding someone to replace JW!

Staff are leaving the club and there seems to be little desire to replace them at the moment.

Never mind players not being signed. Johnson is a perfect signing at 7m and we should be in for him even if he decides to stay in the Midlands.

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Never mind players not being signed. Johnson is a perfect signing at 7m and we should be in for him even if he decides to stay in the Midlands.

Even if he decides to stay in the Midlands? So...we should relocate the club to the Midlands to sign him?

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Apparently she is a very good negotiator and to be fair to her she did say few months ago that Kentaro's role would be diminish over time, maybe this the start of that process.

As others have said, it doesn't matter if she's a good negotiator if she has no knowledge of football. It isn't like other kinds of business...you need a 'feel' for the wages somebody should be on, the fee somebody should cost, and all the little additional fees and bonuses. This takes time to learn.

Further, it will be irrelevant how good our negotiation teams are if we don't stump up the cash a club and a player wants.

Nope - I think right wing is a definite position to improve. Hoilett has said all along he wants to play as a striker- not a winger.

He was saying that the season before last, before signing his contract. Not heard it since. I'm sure he realises he has flourished on the right wing and won't whine too much about playing there for now. He isn't effective as a striker yet. The hole is the best he could hope for in that sense.

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As others have said, it doesn't matter if she's a good negotiator if she has no knowledge of football. It isn't like other kinds of business...you need a 'feel' for the wages somebody should be on, the fee somebody should cost, and all the little additional fees and bonuses. This takes time to learn.

Further, it will be irrelevant how good our negotiation teams are if we don't stump up the cash a club and a player wants.

Surely this is where the new Football Secretary Anthony Bloch would be advising Mrs D. Plus Kean and Glover will tell Mrs D how much a player is worth.

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Surely this is where the new Football Secretary Anthony Bloch would be advising Mrs D. Plus Kean and Glover will tell Mrs D how much a player is worth.

The guy who was previously selling tickets or something at Everton? Ah wonderful, now I can rest easy.

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I am also led to believe that Mrs D is personally taking charge of transfer's.

Out of all three she seems the most sane of them and apparently she's the brains behind the business.

It's not like she's selecting the players :rolleyes: . She will probably negotiating the £££££££ (which is 90% of the battle) and trying to sell the Venkenoid vision of the future as a reason to join.

At least someone is now in charge of the rudder and may yet notice the onrushing rocks...... :unsure:

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surely everyone supported ManU or Liverpool as a kid until their fathers force them to support Black burn or another team and told them Father Christams had run out of Liverpool Shirts and only had Blackburn rovers and England shirts left..............or was that just me.

Why Liverpool, who'd choose a second division team?

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As others have said, it doesn't matter if she's a good negotiator if she has no knowledge of football. It isn't like other kinds of business...you need a 'feel' for the wages somebody should be on, the fee somebody should cost, and all the little additional fees and bonuses. This takes time to learn.

Further, it will be irrelevant how good our negotiation teams are if we don't stump up the cash a club and a player wants.

Whilst I think I know what you are getting at I think you've contradicted yourself in two lines there - surely you don't need a "feel" for anything if you're just going to pay what the player wants?

But I think your overall point is correct. Culturally this will be a disastrous fit, and plenty of very, very experienced business people (Sugar for one) have struggled with the morally bankrupt "football world"

But then, apparently having someone like Kentaro working for us is bad too?

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There are as usual some very worthwhile reads on this thread, then there is the usual crud spouted by those who refuse to accept the views of other contributors.

Alan Nixon may not be a Rovers supporter but he brings a lot of good insight into what is happening. Those who dont like it can simply ignore it. keep up the good work Alan.

some of this threads contribitors should reaslise the Rovers are a club in crisis. We may have some cash and we may have little debt.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEADERSHIP

WE DO NOT KNOW WHO IS RUNNING THE CLUB

WE HAVE NOONE WHO CAN TAKE CHARGE OF NEGOTIATIONS ON THE TRANSFER FRONT

OUR OWNERS ARE PRETTY CLUELESS ON HOW TO RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB

Until the above change we are going nowhere fast.

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