Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[cruz]

I'm as worried as I was on the last day of the season. About 0.1/100 on the worry-o-meter

[DanielMB]

they couldnt get a marquee signing so they are trying for a Marques signing and hope noone would know

[47er]

I'm as worried as I was on the last day of the season. About 0.1/100 on the worry-o-meter

Have you got a pulse?

[BuckyRover]

Have you got a pulse?

Hrs logical and rational.

You should try it sometime.

[leerovers1980]

andy cryer on twitter says benjani should still be signing wooohooo another exciting signing from the venkys

[Amo]

andy cryer on twitter says benjani should still be signing wooohooo another exciting signing from the venkys

I'm more confident about CL football now.

[cruz]

Have you got a pulse?

No, I'm clinically dead. That's why I'm typing this.

So I have no pulse because

a- I was not worried vs Wolves because it would have taken an improbable set of results to send us down and I was confident we would not lose

b- I'm not sqweeming until I am sick that we haven't signed anyone yet. Even though most signings are made after clubs return for pre-season training. But because other clubs have made a few signings the sky has fallen in and grown men have regressed to tantrums not seen since infant school

[davulsukur]

I'm more confident about CL football now.

Championship League?

[broadsword]

andy cryer on twitter says benjani should still be signing wooohooo another exciting signing from the venkys

What?

Why sign him when we had caboodles of different players lined up to sign?

The only strategy for transfers this summer that I can detect is "make it up as you go along".

[Black Burn]

Getting a bit worried now?

Let's see, Benni McCarthy joined us, as in actually signed a contract with us, on 28th July 2006. Roque Santa Cruz signed a contract with us from Bayern Munich on 28th July 2007. It's only the fourth of July and you're already worried because we haven't signed anybody? And as for your excuse that players need time to gel together or a pre-season - while I will not dispute that, I will point out that McCarthy and Santa Cruz (at least in his first season here) didn't seem to need the pre-season before finding the back of the net. I won't deny it is beneficial to have a pre-season and whatever, but if we don't have it, it doesn't mean the end of the world for Blackburn or that the player will automatically flop next season.

Why is so many fans on a rush to sign somebody NOW? Calm down. Most of our successful signings were done on the end of July, so RELAX. Just because we haven't signed anyone yet doesn't mean we won't or that they will be snatched away or that they will flop without a pre-season. Yet most people here are making it out to be the case. Let's not be unreasonable, let Venkys sort out the mess Alan Nixon and Kamy said they had, and be patient. I know people said it would be too late to whine and complain and rebel if we haven't signed anybody by 1st September, but what the hell is whining, complaining and rebelling going to do for us now? It will only make us look like a laughing stock as rational and logical people know Venkys and Rovers need time to sign people in. And I'm pretty sure driving Venkys out won't be to our favor as no one is going to want to buy the club from them after that when they see how unreasonable the fans are and how they drive out the owners every time they think (THINK, ASSUME, but not know for sure) the club is in trouble, players are not going to get bought, owners pocketing the money, club getting relegated (and we stayed up despite all the moans and insistence that we will most definitely be relegated especially by Steve Kean haters). As fans, we should support the club, and not drive the owners and manager out whenever the going looks as if it's going to get tough.

Have you got a pulse?

Have you got a brain?

[dubdubdub]

What?

Why sign him when we had caboodles of different players lined up to sign?

The only strategy for transfers this summer that I can detect is "make it up as you go along".

I don't see anything wrong with keeping him and the J-man as backup. Not every player we have can be first class.

United have Owen, sure they didn't moan. Obviously Owen is a better player but United are a better side.

[davulsukur]

I dont think the worry is that we haven't signed anyone, the more worrying thing is that from what people like Nicko/Kammy have shared, it sounds like the way we are trying to go about sorting out transfers is not working in the slightest.

Once we close the circus and re-open Blackburn Rovers, everything should start looking better.

[niggit]

Really don't think we need Him. So we want 2 strikers, but have Benjani, Roberts, kalinic, Blackman and Rochina.

[Black Burn]

I dont think the worry is that we haven't signed anyone, the more worrying thing is that from what people like Nicko/Kammy have shared, it sounds like the way we are trying to go about sorting out transfers is not working in the slightest.

Once we close the circus and re-open Blackburn Rovers, everything should start looking better.

I'll admit I am worried about that.

But when I see comments like "Why haven't we signed anyone yet?!" and "Oh, it looks like we are not going to sign anyone at all" and "GET HIM NOW!" it kind of annoys me.

[cruz]

Transfer Twits

The article above extends way beyond twitter

But I cannot agree with

Walk to the park, watch the cricket or go and honk your support for striking teachers.

Honk to tell them to live in the real world more like

[47er]

No, I'm clinically dead. That's why I'm typing this.

So I have no pulse because

a- I was not worried vs Wolves because it would have taken an improbable set of results to send us down and I was confident we would not lose

b- I'm not sqweeming until I am sick that we haven't signed anyone yet. Even though most signings are made after clubs return for pre-season training. But because other clubs have made a few signings the sky has fallen in and grown men have regressed to tantrums not seen since infant school

I've had no "tantrum" so desist. I can see why you'd be confident leading into the last game but what about 4 or 5 games before that? No-one had a right to be confident at that point.

If you don't see any worrying signs, I can only conclude that you've nailed your colours so firmly to Venky's mast that you can't retreat.

We are trawling the bargain basement yet again with Benjani likely to re-sign, Keane being pursued, Roberts given an extension, J Jones being looked at for another loan and no progress that I know of with any of the high value transfers with which we've been linked. Even though the owners have 16.5M from the sale of Jones!

Of course there is time yet but we've seen it dribble away before. The current situation is not a million miles away from that which pertained a year ago and which you so decried in a previous post.

That's my view, worried but not hysterical. Once again Venkys seem to have talked the talk but baulked at paying the money. I see no reason for your complacency but I genuinely hope you are right.

[roverandout]

every new day i come on here, i expect/hope theres some progress being made, then i find out that these headless chickens are going round in circles even more and the players we are linked to seem to go down in calibre every time. Am i worried? darn right i am.

[47er]

I'll admit I am worried about that.

But when I see comments like "Why haven't we signed anyone yet?!" and "Oh, it looks like we are not going to sign anyone at all" and "GET HIM NOW!" it kind of annoys me.

It shouldn't annoy you-------RELAX, calm down, chill, smell the roses..........just trust the owners as Jim does. You know it makes sense.

[cruz]

I've had no "tantrum" so desist. I can see why you'd be confident leading into the last game but what about 4 or 5 games before that? No-one had a right to be confident at that point.

If you don't see any worrying signs, I can only conclude that you've nailed your colours so firmly to Venky's mast that you can't retreat.

We are trawling the bargain basement yet again with Benjani likely to re-sign, Keane being pursued, Roberts given an extension, J Jones being looked at for another loan and no progress that I know of with any of the high value transfers with which we've been linked. Even though the owners have 16.5M from the sale of Jones!

Of course there is time yet but we've seen it dribble away before. The current situation is not a million miles away from that which pertained a year ago and which you so decried in a previous post.

That's my view, worried but not hysterical. Once again Venkys seem to have talked the talk but baulked at paying the money. I see no reason for your complacency but I genuinely hope you are right.

I never said you have thrown any tizzy fits over transfer inactivity, just that plenty have. Nor are my colours nailed to anyones mast. I am a Rovers fan not a venkys fan. And in all seriousness their are far more important matters in life than whether Rovers have signed some over rated and over paid muppet before July 1st. Teachers expecting me to pay for their gold plated pensions as well as 20 weeks off a year, after seeing my own contributions double just to stand still, is one of them.

[Black Burn]

I've had no "tantrum" so desist. I can see why you'd be confident leading into the last game but what about 4 or 5 games before that? No-one had a right to be confident at that point.

If you don't see any worrying signs, I can only conclude that you've nailed your colours so firmly to Venky's mast that you can't retreat.

We are trawling the bargain basement yet again with Benjani likely to re-sign, Keane being pursued, Roberts given an extension, J Jones being looked at for another loan and no progress that I know of with any of the high value transfers with which we've been linked. Even though the owners have 16.5M from the sale of Jones!

Of course there is time yet but we've seen it dribble away before. The current situation is not a million miles away from that which pertained a year ago and which you so decried in a previous post.

That's my view, worried but not hysterical. Once again Venkys seem to have talked the talk but baulked at paying the money. I see no reason for your complacency but I genuinely hope you are right.

On the contrary, if you are over-worrying over everything you hear from the media, then you should stop reading the news and return a month later. Just because Benjani is likely to re-sign doesn't mean Blackburn Rovers are going to get relegated next season, nor does it mean we're looking for more bargain basement players. And if you've been up to date with the news, Kean apparently has balked at Tottenham's asking price and even Alan Nixon admits Robbie Keane is not a likely scenario. Funnily enough, you believe that there is no progress with the high value transfers but you believe all the Benjani and Keane news when they too provide the same details and information as the high value links - double standards much?

Like, oh, we're being linked to Keane and Benjani seems to be signing on - I'll believe that. Oh, we're being linked to Cisse, Witsel and Piatti, but I won't believe that because there is no progress. Even though the amount of progress for BOTH seems to be the same.

So what if we have 16.5 million? So we should blow it all away right now on high value players instead of slowly considering which highly valued player fits into our team and which doesn't? People may claim Piatti, Cisse, etc fits into Kean's management and tactics and style of playing - but that's just speculation. If we are that accurate at being football managers, Venkys will be hiring us instead of Kean. Not that Kean is the best man for the job, but surely he is at least more qualified than us.

I'm not sure what the complains are, but it seems to be either we are not buying players yet, or Venkys seem to be stingy despite their claims to be magnanimous.

If it's the first one then I shall ask this question. Just because Venkys and Blackburn Rovers have money to spend, why are they obligated to spend it early and immediately? Why can't we give them time and 2 months to decide who to buy with their money? Why do they have to spend it right now?!

If it's the second issue, then I guess I'll ask this: Oh, sure we have 16.5 million from Jones, but are Venkys balking at the cost of transferring players from one club to another or are they worried about long-term costs such as wages? Even then, are they weighing the risk on spending so much on untested players from other European leagues who could possibly flop and throw all those millions and wages away, and thus hesitate, or are they not allowed to weigh their options that cautiously?

[imy9]

I never said you have thrown any tizzy fits over transfer inactivity, just that plenty have. Nor are my colours nailed to anyones mast. I am a Rovers fan not a venkys fan. And in all seriousness their are far more important matters in life than whether Rovers have signed some over rated and over paid muppet before July 1st. Teachers expecting me to pay for their gold plated pensions as well as 20 weeks off a year, after seeing my own contributions double just to stand still, is one of them.

You have been reading the conservative manifesto in too much detail, oh and its 13 weeks off a year

[47er]

I never said you have thrown any tizzy fits over transfer inactivity, just that plenty have. Nor are my colours nailed to anyones mast. I am a Rovers fan not a venkys fan. And in all seriousness their are far more important matters in life than whether Rovers have signed some over rated and over paid muppet before July 1st. Teachers expecting me to pay for their gold plated pensions as well as 20 weeks off a year, after seeing my own contributions double just to stand still, is one of them.

Well this is a Rovers site so it stands to reason that on this section of the Board nothing is more important than things Rovers. I'm replying to your post so its quite unfair of you to shift the goal-posts, pick up the ball and go home!

[cruz]

You have been reading the conservative manifesto in too much detail, oh and its 13 weeks off a year

I wouldn't wipe my arse on one of those

It's no wonder we have an ignorant twitter generation listening to the sheer stupifying ignorance to the workings of their own pension fund displayed by the teachers interviewed on Radio 2 last week. They seemed to think they paid for their own pension in it's entirety

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I wouldn't wipe my arse on one of those

It's no wonder we have an ignorant twitter generation listening to the sheer stupifying ignorance to the workings of their own pension fund displayed by the teachers interviewed on Radio 2 last week. They seemed to think they paid for their own pension in it's entirety

Effectively they have done - the low salaries paid to 99% of public servants being off-set by comparatively good pensions and other rights. Lets not forget - it isn't so long ago that private sector pensions and salaries were far better than that offered to the public sector. They have always been - and will possibly remain - been the governments whipping boys.

[47er]

On the contrary, if you are over-worrying over everything you hear from the media, then you should stop reading the news and return a month later. Just because Benjani is likely to re-sign doesn't mean Blackburn Rovers are going to get relegated next season, nor does it mean we're looking for more bargain basement players. And if you've been up to date with the news, Kean apparently has balked at Tottenham's asking price and even Alan Nixon admits Robbie Keane is not a likely scenario. Funnily enough, you believe that there is no progress with the high value transfers but you believe all the Benjani and Keane news when they too provide the same details and information as the high value links - double standards much?

Like, oh, we're being linked to Keane and Benjani seems to be signing on - I'll believe that. Oh, we're being linked to Cisse, Witsel and Piatti, but I won't believe that because there is no progress. Even though the amount of progress for BOTH seems to be the same.

So what if we have 16.5 million? So we should blow it all away right now on high value players instead of slowly considering which highly valued player fits into our team and which doesn't? People may claim Piatti, Cisse, etc fits into Kean's management and tactics and style of playing - but that's just speculation. If we are that accurate at being football managers, Venkys will be hiring us instead of Kean. Not that Kean is the best man for the job, but surely he is at least more qualified than us.

I'm not sure what the complains are, but it seems to be either we are not buying players yet, or Venkys seem to be stingy despite their claims to be magnanimous.

If it's the first one then I shall ask this question. Just because Venkys and Blackburn Rovers have money to spend, why are they obligated to spend it early and immediately? Why can't we give them time and 2 months to decide who to buy with their money? Why do they have to spend it right now?!

If it's the second issue, then I guess I'll ask this: Oh, sure we have 16.5 million from Jones, but are Venkys balking at the cost of transferring players from one club to another or are they worried about long-term costs such as wages? Even then, are they weighing the risk on spending so much on untested players from other European leagues who could possibly flop and throw all those millions and wages away, and thus hesitate, or are they not allowed to weigh their options that cautiously?

Um--where to start?

Its logically true that if Benjani re-signs it does not mean that Rovers will be relegated. I see that! However if he plays often we will be very reliant on the other 10 to avoid that calamity. He is not of the standard the owners and the manager led us to expect.

Keane----the only player we've made a bid for! Let's hope he's too expensive! Again,not what we were led to believe was coming.

We gave them time in January. We spent 4.5M on 2 players we'd never heard of and didn't see. 2 loans--1 success,1 flop. Where's the reason for complacency about the future?

I don't know what the owners are worried about but I have read both Nicko's and Kamy's descriptions of utter confusion and disorganisation at Ewood. I respect their input from experience of it and therefore believe them.

OK--don't take a risk with unknown quantities form abroad! Thats what the owners apparently want-not me! Let's buy tried and tested players from the Premier League-------Warnock, Bentley and Bellamy would all be cheap and would be great value.I could throw in a dozen others without having to think about it who haven't played for us.

We are going about this all wrong.