Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[JAL]

But it would be better to have only 2 quality A-list players or 3-4 B-list players who might be cheaper but still improve our squad?

Don't know about you, but I think the latter is preferable as it is both quality AND quantity.

Kamy's update is so much more encouraging than Alan Nixon's. I'm not having a jibe at Alan Nixon, but it's really remarkable what different wording of the same suituation can do for readers.

And if Lee is correct, we might actually have Onuha in the next 48 hours, which will most definitely lift the gloom and depression that is floating over the messageboard right now and perhaps even prove Alan Nixon's sources wrong.

But I won't be placing too much hope on it.

A LIST EVERY TIME !

A list players, two at a time will do, build em up, season after season then see what you've got.

Done correctly you'll have a far stronger product, with greater interest in that product with a greater feel good factor than having a bunch of second raters that fight relegation year after year until they eventually fall. Something that us supporters just cant and wont except.

Theres only one route to take though Kean and A-list players doesnt seem to sit comfortably somehow.

[imy9]

So in short we look likely to only spend the PJ money inclusive of wages ATM?

[A cup of beans]

Jesus Wept

I find it very hard to believe that something so basic could be overlooked. Kentaro are supposed to be experts in their field.

windy.. youre going off heresay! i prefer to go off what actually happens! nothing against kamy, who does have his finger on the pulse.. and i value his insight, but football is murky and full of speculation and rumour and for those reasons, its all down to interpritation.. and sometimes ends up like a game of chinese whispers!

[chaddyrovers]

I think most people would agree that we need to sign a proven goalscorer before any other position. we also need a squad striker, midfielder and defender. Maybe another defender if Samba and a young right back to replace Salgado whenever He retired!

So If our transfer budget is 25 million pounds I would spend about 15 million pounds on 2 strikers then spend about 5 million pounds on a midfielder and defender.

Maybe we could add to our transfer budget with some sales of our sqaud and back up players like Grella, Goulan, Langinzi, maybe Pedersen and Kalinic(if he wants to go). Plus we have got some good young players coming through like Lowe, Cotton, Hitchcock, Morris, Pearson, etc. So we can have these as sqaud/back up players.

[JAL]

So in short we look likely to only spend the PJ money inclusive of wages ATM?

Seems more that way though one would expect right now that its going to be a lot less than the Phil Jones fee.

I think most people would agree that we need to sign a proven goalscorer before any other position. we also need a squad striker, midfielder and defender. Maybe another defender if Samba and a young right back to replace Salgado whenever He retired!

So If our transfer budget is 25 million pounds I would spend about 15 million pounds on 2 strikers then spend about 5 million pounds on a midfielder and defender.

Maybe we could add to our transfer budget with some sales of our sqaud and back up players like Grella, Goulan, Langinzi, maybe Pedersen and Kalinic(if he wants to go). Plus we have got some good young players coming through like Lowe, Cotton, Hitchcock, Morris, Pearson, etc. So we can have these as sqaud/back up players.

You might have to lower your £25m budget Chaddy

[Parsonblue]

so asset stripping and bankrupting us is funny ??

theyve saved us, we were dying a slow death. theyve financed kean last jan and im not worried about the lack of activity so far.

1 do rovers fans really expect our owners to conduct transfers in public!

2 its early on,,, in transfer window terms. things are only starting to heat up.

relax.. or if you cant relax.. wait a bit before almost combusting with rage.. just because things seem quiet!

How you can describe the longest period in the top flight for over 70 years as dying a slow death I don't know. The bottom line is that the Trust kept us in the Premier League, against all the odds, on an ever decreasing budget. Our new owners seem to have finally grasped the fact that owning a Premier League club is an expensive business and now probably accept that mid-table is a fairly realistic objective with the resources they have available. I think talk of Champions League can now been seen for the foolishness that it always was. It would appear that our owners are now undergoing a financial reality check and sights are being lowered to more realistic levels. Personally I don't think that's any bad thing. The Trust proved with with shrewd management it is possible to keep the club in the Premier League on a limited budget.

The major difference to me is that the Trust had the experienced leadership of Williams and Finn at the helm and also came up with some excellent choices for manager - with the exception of Paul Ince. Now we seem to have no management structure as such and a manager who is very much an unknown quantity. If we can keep out of the relegation battle this season I, for one, will be very happy.

[PAFELL]

Think it time that the owners and Kean come out to the fans and tell us what is going on at rovers.

we should be making bids for players we wanted.

I think we need a defender who can play anywhere at the back, Midfielder, 2 strikers and another centre back if Samba leaves.

It's time the owners, Kean and Huber decide who we want and start making bids for players becfore we miss out on good players and end up with ok players who won't improve our squad in terms of quantity.

As they say to many cooks spoil the broth. Venkys have too may advisors which is confusing them. They need a director of football on board. Venkys admit their knowledge of football is weak, therefore they should let the choice of players be left to those who know what they are doing. A decent manager who knows players may help quite a bit. But.....

[TugaysMarlboro]

So in short we look likely to only spend the PJ money inclusive of wages ATM?

That's the most interesting bit of info for me. If that's all we can safely spend, within our means then fine. But for crying out loud will someone at the top just say 'this is what we've got to spend.' stick to that amount and get on with it.

[Black Burn]

A LIST EVERY TIME !

A list players, two at a time will do, build em up, season after season then see what you've got.

Done correctly you'll have a far stronger product, with greater interest in that product with a greater feel good factor than having a bunch of second raters that fight relegation year after year until they eventually fall. Something that us supporters just cant and wont except.

I'm not sure, but two players don't make a squad. That's just my opinion, though. What if they get injured? Then you're back to square one.

Second-raters are not as bad as you make them out to be. Second-raters do not equate to playing relegation battles. That's for the third, fourth, fifth raters. I'm looking for overall improvement and strengthening of the team as opposed to having the squad overly reliant on one or two A-list players.

[JAL]

ill take Robbie Keane plus either one of Cisse, Osvaldo or Fabiano. add Onuhua and J Jones and Samba to stay, then ill be happy with that for now. Hoilett to sign an extension, and Formica and Rochina to progress.

Robbo

Salgado Samba Onuha Givet

Hoilett J Jones Nzonzi Olsson

Keane Cisse/Osvaldo Fabiano

Robbie Kean falls into the B-List of players with an A-List salary due to his ageing body.

[Mr. E]

I would just like to point out that there is an actual article on the Lancashire News website entitled "Blackburn Rovers head to Austria without Benjani".

The implication being that Benjani is someone who a living being on this planet might possibly care about. Aka us, because he is still linked to our club. Benjani.

I don't know. Every day there is a headline that further and further embarrasses our club.

[Kamy100]

So in short we look likely to only spend the PJ money inclusive of wages ATM?

Nope spend £26 million inclusive of Jones money. That £26 million covers all transfer fees and wages.

[nicko]

Kamy's update is so much more encouraging than Alan Nixon's. I'm not having a jibe at Alan Nixon, but it's really remarkable what different wording of the same suituation can do for readers.

And if Lee is correct, we might actually have Onuha in the next 48 hours, which will most definitely lift the gloom and depression that is floating over the messageboard right now and perhaps even prove Alan Nixon's sources wrong.

But I won't be placing too much hope on it.

Kamy's info is the same as mine...the people who own the club have found out how expensive transfers are and have gone into neutral as a result...nobody who matters in negotiations now knows what money is available to spend.

No point in Plan A, Plan B or even Plan X at the moment if you don't know what you have to spend.

I am sure we will hear the 'we don't want to do a Portsmouth' line peddled quite a bit now. It will be this year's 'business as usual.'

It's an excuse for inactivity.

Rovers HAVE money - £10 million for the season as I recall the promise was - and the Phil Jones money.

If the owners now realise that won't go very far, then fair enough.

But to bring in freebies and trialists will not fulfil their long-term goal.

Chopping and changing at first-team level - and even down below - just confuses people.

[PAFELL]

Once again, spot on.

In short...nobody knows what is available to spend.

Why compile class lists and discard them?

Something else has gone here in the past week-ten days...financial and a blow to the owners.

What would be your opinion on things. What do you think has gone wrong for things to change the way they have.

I think it may be a case of the agents attempting to bleed the owners dry, knowing how ignorant of football / transfers / running a football club, etc. they may know the chicken business inside out and could give advice on that business - but not on football.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Our owners aren't mega-rich, they aren't billionaires and they don't have tens of millions to throw at a single transfer window. So next time one of the Venky's sources (or whoever you use) sends you a story about signing a list of players that would equal 5 times the yearly profits of their main company, you might wanna take it with a pinch of salt.

I will believe they have 50 million to spend when its spent,very worrying news from Mr Nixon.

FFS!

[John]

How you can describe the longest period in the top flight for over 70 years as dying a slow death I don't know. The bottom line is that the Trust kept us in the Premier League, against all the odds, on an ever decreasing budget. Our new owners seem to have finally grasped the fact that owning a Premier League club is an expensive business and now probably accept that mid-table is a fairly realistic objective with the resources they have available. I think talk of Champions League can now been seen for the foolishness that it always was. It would appear that our owners are now undergoing a financial reality check and sights are being lowered to more realistic levels. Personally I don't think that's any bad thing. The Trust proved with with shrewd management it is possible to keep the club in the Premier League on a limited budget.

The major difference to me is that the Trust had the experienced leadership of Williams and Finn at the helm and also came up with some excellent choices for manager - with the exception of Paul Ince. Now we seem to have no management structure as such and a manager who is very much an unknown quantity. If we can keep out of the relegation battle this season I, for one, will be very happy.

Excellent summary as usual - just one additional point - The Trust proved with with shrewd management it is possible to keep the club in the Premier League on a limited budget.

Not just keep us in the PL but a succession of top ten finishes, including playing in the UEFA cup, plus winning a trophy.

Shrewd management on/off the pitch, with lesser resources, is imperative.

[dhughes07]

So if jones had not left and he had signed his new contract, we would not have had a penny left? Something don't add up. You may not know football but this is just basic business sense. There are only a few scenario's here 1) venky's are really clueless and have no business sense (their relative wealth suggest otherwise) 2) the owners are trying to gag info coming out of the club and our resident journo's are getting played. 3) something has affected the business outside of football resulting in a re-think.4) journo's are having their noses pushed out and stretching the truth. I suspect It will be one of those not sure which one though.

[chaddyrovers]

You might have to lower your £25m budget Chaddy

I was working our the current figure. Nicko and Kamy have said we dont know what the transfer budget is. so I was working off the last figure we know. Plus I would except Samba to go to either Spurs or Aresnal for about 15 million so maybe this would increase the budget hopefully

[promoted2001]

Maybe the first signing should be a chairman perhaps? We seem to be missing a leader but have lots of "yes men"

[Roberto Policano]

Marques

Rovers interested in Fernando Marques, Parma's striker.

Known as the striker who never scores

You don't half get linked to some awful players.

Not even checking that surely rubbish.

[Al]

I'll admit I am worried about that.

But when I see comments like "Why haven't we signed anyone yet?!" and "Oh, it looks like we are not going to sign anyone at all" and "GET HIM NOW!" it kind of annoys me.

And when I see posts saying there is no urgency to get the best players availible within our price range it kind of infuriates me.

[Tom]

So if it's true and there is little money, why not bring in a top striker with what is available from the Jones sale, someone like Onuhua with the £5m summer kitty and then go for the likes of Reo Coker and Vaughn on a free to bolster the midfield, we would look stronger already with those 2.

[nicko]

Before this turns into a trust love-in. Just two points.

The Trust stopped putting money in some time ago.

The Trust sold the club to Venkys.

[chaddyrovers]

I would not have a problem with signing a couple of free transfers aswell as spending the jones transfer money and the 5-10 million pounds from the owners.

But we need to improve the quality of the squad and hopefully finish in the top 10.

So if it's true and there is little money, why not bring in a top striker with what is available from the Jones sale, someone like Onuhua with the £5m summer kitty and then go for the likes of Reo Coker and Vaughan on a free to bolster the midfield, we would look stronger already with those 2.

I would agree with that TCO. maybe sell one or two squad midfielders aswell to make room for them plus Lowe and Cotton.

[Al]

I'll admit I am worried about that.

But when I see comments like "Why haven't we signed anyone yet?!" and "Oh, it looks like we are not going to sign anyone at all" and "GET HIM NOW!" it kind of annoys me.

And when I see posts saying there is no urgency to get the best players availible within our price range it kind of infuriates me.

Particularly from someone who has not been a member for five minutes.