Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[Mattyblue]

The lack of knowledge kicking around right at this moment is scary.

I wasn't going to repeat this. But it is an example. It came to light in the last few days.

There was a plan to bring in a couple of talented young Indian kids to the academy - maybe even higher,.

Then somebody realised the small question of 'work permits.'

That's not a mickey-take. That was actually discussed. It is clear that some of the rules have not been fully explained to people at the top.

I'm just aghast, how can owners of a multi-national, multi-platform business not know about work permits?!

Unreal.

[rebelmswar]

Gotta love Hughesy logic. Let's just get player x off the wage bill because they're crap. Doesn't really work like that in real life does it.

You do actually need a selling club and a buying club mate. Who's going to buy Grella at the moment?? Come on, throw me a name because if there's anyone in for him they obviously have an even worse transfer policy than us!!!

The part that gets me is the whole logic behind the budget. We have sold Mr. X so his wages should be available, in theory yes. But, when a club is subsisting on TV money alone, and when product sales, ticket sales, pies, merchandice etc. do not really do enough to cover the wages anyway, one does not throw that money back into THIS seasons transfer pot. Those wages that are gone are only an erasure from the overall running costs for the entire entity that is the club and not seen as an intake of cash.

[Hughesy]

It's not really that simple though is it. You can't just release them for free without paying their contract in full. You still need to find a club willing to sign them for their current wages regardles of how low or non existant the fee might be. That's unless they are prepared to take a pay cut which many players aren't. There's a reason why some of them are still here. Why would anyone want to pay Grella even close to that to sit in the treatment room for one.

Maybe the 26m has to cover wages as well because they want to lower the wage bill rather than keep it at a similiar level, who knows.

Totally understand - but until we have tried then I dont see it as a viable excuse.....Gala wanted Grella but we wanted a fee, Fulham offered a fee for Andrews - both we could have got rid of. Benjani we dont need to renew, Brown has gone, Zurab has gone, Rigters has gone and all the loan wages have gone. There MUST be a space on that wage budget.

[Andy]

I think the word 'naive' sums up Venky's pretty perfectly.

They mean well, but are just naive to...well, pretty much anything Rovers related.

The appointment and subsequent backing of Kean is a perfect example of that.

If they are sticking around, as opposed to selling up (to who?), it's going to be one huge learning curve for them and it's not going to be a quick one.

[Balwer]

Hughesy actually makes a very good point about players who have gone off the payroll.

So you COULD be able to take on a big earner or two - but it costs.

You have the advantage of having three or four home-grown players on low-ish salaries in your squad. That is also a plus.

What it needs is somebody to get a grip. Work out what you want to spend. Have faith in the person spending it. And get some people in who know how to find the players. And more to negotiate the right deals.

The lack of knowledge kicking around right at this moment is scary.

I wasn't going to repeat this. But it is an example. It came to light in the last few days.

There was a plan to bring in a couple of talented young Indian kids to the academy - maybe even higher,.

Then somebody realised the small question of 'work permits.'

That's not a mickey-take. That was actually discussed. It is clear that some of the rules have not been fully explained to people at the top.

Were J Jones and RSC not budgeted for in last window's £5m though nicko? Would kind of be doubling up to include them in coming off this window's budget.

[imy9]

Hughesy actually makes a very good point about players who have gone off the payroll.

So you COULD be able to take on a big earner or two - but it costs.

You have the advantage of having three or four home-grown players on low-ish salaries in your squad. That is also a plus.

What it needs is somebody to get a grip. Work out what you want to spend. Have faith in the person spending it. And get some people in who know how to find the players. And more to negotiate the right deals.

The lack of knowledge kicking around right at this moment is scary.

I wasn't going to repeat this. But it is an example. It came to light in the last few days.

There was a plan to bring in a couple of talented young Indian kids to the academy - maybe even higher,.

Then somebody realised the small question of 'work permits.'

That's not a mickey-take. That was actually discussed. It is clear that some of the rules have not been fully explained to people at the top.

But surely Nicko that is why Anderson and Kentaro are here?! How can they not know this, it is basic stuff really?

[Hughesy]

Gotta love Hughesy logic. Let's just get player x off the wage bill because they're crap. Doesn't really work like that in real life does it.

You do actually need a selling club and a buying club mate. Who's going to buy Grella at the moment?? Come on, throw me a name because if there's anyone in for him they obviously have an even worse transfer policy than us!!!

Fulham wanted Andrews & bid money - we turned it down

Gala want MGP - we want a fee

Gala wanted Grella - we wanted a fee

EHD we should allow to find a new club for free - that would smooth things over....instead of again asking for a fee.

[beerwins]

Isn't it possible that the info you guys have is being fed to you? I'm not trying to be offensive or doubting your sources but a week or so ago wasn't mrs d going mad because of info being leaked, now we seem to know exactly how much we have to spend, bizarre.

This thread is totally fubar and has been for a while, I look at things like this, how many of you people knew J. Jones was coming on loan in Jan, the honest answer would be not many, I'm afraid the only thing we can do is cross fingers and take info with a pinch of salt before sharpening your pitchforks.

[Hughesy]

Were J Jones and RSC not budgeted for in last window's £5m though nicko? Would kind of be doubling up to include them in coming off this window's budget.

£5m window

- £3.5m Formica + wages

- £1m Rochina + wages

- RSC - 90K a week wages

- J Jones - 60k a week wages

Pretty sure the 1st two alone would have taken up that £5m budget

[Roost]

I wasn't going to repeat this. But it is an example. It came to light in the last few days.

There was a plan to bring in a couple of talented young Indian kids to the academy - maybe even higher,.

Then somebody realised the small question of 'work permits.'

That's not a mickey-take. That was actually discussed. It is clear that some of the rules have not been fully explained to people at the top.

I can understand if the new owners have some shortcomings regarding owning a football club, but to not know about work permits, or the need for them, is incredible.

Is it me, or is this going from bad to worse?

Staggered

[T.J.Newton]

ill keep my opinions to myself in future then, its just all the paranoia negativity on this forum is started by 1 or 2 hack journos that clearly arnt as in the know as they lead people to believe they are(at least not anymore!)

ill stick to http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Blackburn+Rovers for updates in the future.

[Wiggy]

I can't see the Venky's Circus ever making a success of this now.

Maybe a seriously rich Indian has got fed up of his fellow countrymen making themselves a global laughing stock and offered them a way out!

[Mattyblue]

cant believe ive just wasted 3o mins of my life reading the paranoid schizophrenic remarks left by dozens of very deluded people.

wont be looking on this forom again, and with so many misrable supporters like you lot i wouldnt blame venkys if they did decide to strip our assets and sell up.

Aye, the long standing fans deserve that don't they

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Hope so - but they need a buyer in order to sell up.

As stupid as it sounds this would be the worst case scenario. It would lead to absolute minimal investment again (remember last summer) and our squad can't cope with another season of chronic under investment. Better to strengthen to whatever degree with what ever funds are there, to give us the best possible chance of avoiding relegation whilst letting it be known the club is for sale again.

[bennyboyt11]

The lack of knowledge kicking around right at this moment is scary.

I wasn't going to repeat this. But it is an example. It came to light in the last few days.

There was a plan to bring in a couple of talented young Indian kids to the academy - maybe even higher,.

Then somebody realised the small question of 'work permits.'

That's not a mickey-take. That was actually discussed. It is clear that some of the rules have not been fully explained to people at the top.

Who handled the January transfers, or the young geezer from Paraguay who's joining us? Surely Formica needed a permit? Something doesn't add up there Nicko.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Save upto 300k, a valid point. But I can see venky's point been to cut back on wages and make a profit. If our wages are running 85-90%. Then they may want that down to maybe 75%.

They probably have to reduce the wage bill to cover the lack of a sponsor this year...

[rebelmswar]

£5m window

- £3.5m Formica + wages

- £1m Rochina + wages

- RSC - 90K a week wages

- J Jones - 60k a week wages

Pretty sure the 1st two alone would have taken up that £5m budget

But you stated yourself that Venkeys paying for RSC and Jones was money out of their pockets when people were slagging them off for not throwing in enough money.

If, what you said, is true then J. Jones and RSC can not be factored into any budget.

Our Jones could be, but it makes no fiscal sense to do so when it will just be seen as a write off of operating costs.

[Mullionvagrant]

Who handled the January transfers, or the young geezer from Paraguay who's joining us? Surely Formica needed a permit? Something doesn't add up there Nicko.

your catching on.

[Ralfinho]

Who handled the January transfers, or the young geezer from Paraguay who's joining us? Surely Formica needed a permit? Something doesn't add up there Nicko.

Im sure Formica has an Italian and Argentinian passport

[BRFC1995]

New manager then players

Surely reality has finally checked in with the owners, kean + form from half 10/11 season x 2 = relegation 11/12 by a distance.

One competant authoritive manager would do tem so much good right now, sure they fully see this as a business and want handsome returns and that will never be possible at this club.

Can anyone see us doing anyting other than loans....i can't

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

things at blackburn are better than theyve been for nearly 10 years,Fact.

Deluded,utterly.

[Roost]

cant believe ive just wasted 3o mins of my life reading the paranoid schizophrenic remarks left by dozens of very deluded people.

wont be looking on this forom again, and with so many misrable supporters like you lot i wouldnt blame venkys if they did decide to strip our assets and sell up.

p.s. and the way you the NickoKammyites actually seem to take all they say as gospel is pathetic,

get real

things at blackburn are better than theyve been for nearly 10 years,Fact.

......wow. Thats some post.

And to think you edited it before posting.

You think everything is fine? Sheesh

[rebelmswar]

Deluded,utterly.

No, I am deluded.

That is either a lunatic or an attention seeking, PMT ridden, teenage girl who has a fatal attraction for Nicko.

I do pray he does not have a bunny or similar furry animal.

[Roost]

Im sure Formica has an Italian and Argentinian passport

I think he has. Still no excuse for the rest of the shambles though Lee.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

No, I am deluded.

That is either a lunatic or an attention seeking, PMT ridden, teenage girl who has a fatal attraction for Nicko.

I do pray he does not have a bunny or similar furry animal.