Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[JAL]

From what nicko is saying do we take it that Venky's and Kentaro/SEM have parted ways ?

[promoted2001]

[roverandout]

is the hardly in your username short for 'hardly post anything in the real world'? you seem to have your blue and white tinted spectacles on 24/7. So people shouldnt be concerned or worries by whats going on? we should all smile and pretend everything is rosy and rovers are going to win the fa cup next season and finish in the top 6? What has been said doesnt give you the slightest concern?

[Neal]

I think (like Nicko said) the owners have become disillusioned with clubs, players and agents trying to take them for fools in the transfer market. It is common knowledge that they have cash to spend and because of that, they are deciding to sit tight (for a small period) and let such people stew and show that they are not willing to be pushed around in negotiations in a sort of "take it or leave it" manner. Over the next couple of weeks things will start to happen, i am convinced of that. I just think there has been a period of serious frustration due to such factors mentioned and they are taking the time to dust themselves off, take their medicine and try again for the players they want.

This is the first transfer window we have faced since our mate JW left and there are bound to be initial problems as to how we operate from now on. We would stupid to presume that this wouldn't happen due to a major staffing overhaul.

I also believe the owners and the club have the right to spend when they want, however they want on whoever they want, my only request is that they keep to their word and invest this "healthy" budget we allegedly have.

In these strange and confused times at our club i think that realistically the only people who know what is to happen this window are the family, Kean and Kentaro/SEM which leaves us lot to carry on speculating as ever. I say... Let's sit back and reserve judgement when this horrible window is done and dusted, when all is clear to see IF someone has taken us for a ride.

[chaddyrovers]

Please can the owners, Kean, Anderson and Huber sort out YOUR DISAGREEMENTS ASAP!!!

We need the owners to tell Huber and Kean how much there is to spend and let's Huber and Kean go and get 4 or 5 good players that will improve the quality of the rovers sqaud and give us a chance of finishing in the top 10!!!

Before that, the 2 weeks before this I was very positive about the transfer targets and the way things was being done. We had our targets sort out and who we wanted but we haven't done anything to sign them!!!

[dhughes07]

Carlos Tevez, wants to leave this summer, £26m all in do you lol

[Hughesy]

Hughesy. All of those so called offers to the club have never ever been substantiated and you know it. The grella and Andrews bids were never made public by the club and are purely hearsay. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone at the club would have turned down an offer for grella!!!

Im pretty sure Nicko was reporting about Grella & Gala - I trust his info.

Andrews would get picked up by a championship/ lower prem side if we offered him around for free.

For me its clear - get shut of the deadwood however possible and that will free up space for better quality

[gazsimm]

the owners should at least be coming out and letting the fans know what is going on, instead of getting the bald yes man to come out with lie after lie!! Its a farce!!!

[mark1875]

the owners should at least be coming out and letting the fans know what is going on, instead of getting the bald yes man to come out with lie after lie!! Its a farce!!!

to be fair how many other premier league chairmen or owners are coming out with statements? and correct me if i am wrong but didn't Mrs Desai tell us in the last few days via indian press where we are upto regarding transfers?

[patrickvalery]

First Post so wil try and be accurate!

I was talking to TP a day or so ago and he told me that he had spoken to Kean and he was was expecting to have £26 million to spend. That doesn't change very much until we start spending but does explain the reluctance to spend most of that sum on one striker.

Does TP mean Tony Parkes or Terry Pratchet?

[roverandout]

that was probably a lie too. aimed at mark1875

[Neal]

Im pretty sure Nicko was reporting about Grella & Gala - I trust his info.

Andrews would get picked up by a championship/ lower prem side if we offered him around for free.

For me its clear - get shut of the deadwood however possible and that will free up space for better quality

Thats the spirit sir!

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I think (like Nicko said) the owners have become disillusioned with clubs, players and agents trying to take them for fools in the transfer market. It is common knowledge that they have cash to spend and because of that, they are deciding to sit tight (for a small period) and let such people stew and show that they are not willing to be pushed around in negotiations in a sort of "take it or leave it" manner. Over the next couple of weeks things will start to happen, i am convinced of that. I just think there has been a period of serious frustration due to such factors mentioned and they are taking the time to dust themselves off, take their medicine and try again for the players they want.

This is the first transfer window we have faced since our mate JW left and there are bound to be initial problems as to how we operate from now on. We would stupid to presume that this wouldn't happen due to a major staffing overhaul.

I also believe the owners and the club have the right to spend when they want, however they want on whoever they want, my only request is that they keep to their word and invest this "healthy" budget we allegedly have.

In these strange and confused times at our club i think that realistically the only people who know what is to happen this window are the family, Kean and Kentaro/SEM which leaves us lot to carry on speculating as ever. I say... Let's sit back and reserve judgement when this horrible window is done and dusted, when all is clear to see IF someone has taken us for a ride.

Agree with all of this.

There are numerous scenarios - from our new owners being incompetent, less than honest about their real intentions for the club - or alternatively trying to get best value for the money they have available (good business sense).

In all honesty we won't know until the transfer window closes - as I think they will play this game as long as they can to get the best deal. They took a gamble with an inexperienced young manager with (presumably) one eye on the future - so they do have some history of this sort of brinkmanship.

Come the end of this transfer window we will know the truth - either hollow promises or the sort of high quality players we all want to see at Rovers.

One thing they need to consider - though all fans want them to get the best deal for the club - if this is some form of effort to mis-lead the press - they are also mis-leading the fans. If this forum is a litmus test of support for our new owners - even the most optimistic fan is sceptical of the Venky's motives - if Mrs D is true to her words, she and her brothers really need to start delivering on their promises.

[RoverPedro]

I think (like Nicko said) the owners have become disillusioned with clubs, players and agents trying to take them for fools in the transfer market. It is common knowledge that they have cash to spend and because of that, they are deciding to sit tight (for a small period) and let such people stew and show that they are not willing to be pushed around in negotiations in a sort of "take it or leave it" manner. Over the next couple of weeks things will start to happen, i am convinced of that. I just think there has been a period of serious frustration due to such factors mentioned and they are taking the time to dust themselves off, take their medicine and try again for the players they want.

This is the first transfer window we have faced since our mate JW left and there are bound to be initial problems as to how we operate from now on. We would stupid to presume that this wouldn't happen due to a major staffing overhaul.

I also believe the owners and the club have the right to spend when they want, however they want on whoever they want, my only request is that they keep to their word and invest this "healthy" budget we allegedly have.

In these strange and confused times at our club i think that realistically the only people who know what is to happen this window are the family, Kean and Kentaro/SEM which leaves us lot to carry on speculating as ever. I say... Let's sit back and reserve judgement when this horrible window is done and dusted, when all is clear to see IF someone has taken us for a ride.

although i agree with the transfers and spending of when and how much they spend being being up to them and not being held to ransom i think its time that venkys and kentaro cane out and did a q&a with the LT. Being the local rag an all. Time for some hard questions to be asked and answered and some transparency to finally be revealed as to who is in charge and dealing with transfers. No more of kean being used as a puppet. Although i think i might be doing a bit of wishful thinking

[Athlete]

to be fair how many other premier league chairmen or owners are coming out with statements? and correct me if i am wrong but didn't Mrs Desai tell us in the last few days via indian press where we are upto regarding transfers?

Another bit of venkys bull

[Roverdale]

This board is the number one argument for the phrase...

'Ignorance is bliss'

[Parsonblue]

Im pretty sure Nicko was reporting about Grella & Gala - I trust his info.

Andrews would get picked up by a championship/ lower prem side if we offered him around for free.

For me its clear - get shut of the deadwood however possible and that will free up space for better quality

The only way that these players will leave now is if you pay up their contracts. That means an immediate outlay as opposed to their wages spread over the next one or two years. Perhaps the owners don't want to shell out to pay off some of the existing squad and then shell out again to pay for replacements. Clearly that £5 million per transfer window is going to have to go a long way if it's to include wages.

It may well be that they have looked at the wage structure and decided that they simply want to cut it. Perhaps they don't believe they can sustain that level of wages over a long period. However, if that was the case why did they offer players improved contracts in January?

Too much simply doesn't add up and hasn't really added up since they took over. The sacking of Allardyce, the appointment of Kean, the signings in January, the departures of Williams and Finn and now Pincher. There doesn't appear to have been a strategy in place from day one and whilst one had hoped that this would gradually appear the situation remains as chaotic as ever.

One begins to wonder if Mrs. Desai has started to realise what the Trust clearly did - that owning the Rovers may start to have a negative impact on their other businesses because of the continual drain on company finances.

[T.J.Newton]

I think (like Nicko said) the owners have become disillusioned with clubs, players and agents trying to take them for fools in the transfer market. It is common knowledge that they have cash to spend and because of that, they are deciding to sit tight (for a small period) and let such people stew and show that they are not willing to be pushed around in negotiations in a sort of "take it or leave it" manner. Over the next couple of weeks things will start to happen, i am convinced of that. I just think there has been a period of serious frustration due to such factors mentioned and they are taking the time to dust themselves off, take their medicine and try again for the players they want.

This is the first transfer window we have faced since our mate JW left and there are bound to be initial problems as to how we operate from now on. We would stupid to presume that this wouldn't happen due to a major staffing overhaul.

I also believe the owners and the club have the right to spend when they want, however they want on whoever they want, my only request is that they keep to their word and invest this "healthy" budget we allegedly have.

In these strange and confused times at our club i think that realistically the only people who know what is to happen this window are the family, Kean and Kentaro/SEM which leaves us lot to carry on speculating as ever. I say... Let's sit back and reserve judgement when this horrible window is done and dusted, when all is clear to see IF someone has taken us for a ride.

A man that speaks sense at last(unlike me!).

post of the week in my op.

[Kelbo]

The only way that these players will leave now is if you pay up their contracts. That means an immediate outlay as opposed to their wages spread over the next one or two years. Perhaps the owners don't want to shell out to pay off some of the existing squad and then shell out again to pay for replacements. Clearly that £5 million per transfer window is going to have to go a long way if it's to include wages.

It may well be that they have looked at the wage structure and decided that they simply want to cut it. Perhaps they don't believe they can sustain that level of wages over a long period. However, if that was the case why did they offer players improved contracts in January?

Too much simply doesn't add up and hasn't really added up since they took over. The sacking of Allardyce, the appointment of Kean, the signings in January, the departures of Williams and Finn and now Pincher. There doesn't appear to have been a strategy in place from day one and whilst one had hoped that this would gradually appear the situation remains as chaotic as ever.

One begins to wonder if Mrs. Desai has started to realise what the Trust clearly did - that owning the Rovers may start to have a negative impact on their other businesses because of the continual drain on company finances.

If there were to be a degree offered for common sense, you would have at least a 2/1 - you really have grasped the nettle!

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

What is annoying me more is that we had a management structure in place but we lost them for one reason or another, I was in Mallorca the last couple of weeks, lots of pro footballers there, some I spoke with others I didnt but the ones I did speak with were not very complimentary about Rovers at the moment and some of these lads were Championship players, now if those opinions are common, we are really going to have problems making decent signings!!

The lack of structure is worrying however, regardless of our structure, I'm pretty certain that Championship players may soon change their tune if they had the opportunity to sign!

[roversinmyblood]

No apologies needed. No offence taken.

I was just working through your theory and trying to say where it didn't stack up.

As of now there is nothing remotely like a budget known to anyone who matters in the process.

NIcko you don't think that they have got wise to how it is going to be impossible to make the business make money and are looking to do a "trust". I. E. Spend nothing and find a buyer quick!!

There is something much bigger going on here.

I am yet to put my finger on it, but I do have my suspicions.

[rebelmswar]

Sorry to sound a bit dim, as I have been out celebrating with the natives the date when our country got rid of an entire continent of troublesome colonists, but did nicko actually say Kentro were buggering off?

I see that nowhere.

[Paul]

I like hughesy's logic and it's difficult to argue with until we recall Warnock was sold to balance the budget, effectively paying the wages. It seems to me much the same is happening again but using the savings made when players leave.

As for the rest of it. We were warned months back Venky's don't have the money to support a PL club. Now we see the truth.

Looks to me as though many of the contributors to the fantasy football thread have been well and truly suckered.

[bellamy11]

As for the rest of it. We were warned months back Venky's don't have the money to support a PL club. Now we see the truth.

I've heard contrasting things. Hardly a source I'd stake my hypothetical mortgage on, but I was speaking to a major Indian seafood manufacturer at a conference last week and he said with great confidence that Venky's have several billions from their various poultry operations. I mentioned our various suspicions that they're not as wealthy as is made out, but he assured me that this was not the case.

He did, however, say that in his opinion the sooner we were rid of them, the better. He cited the two brothers as the major reason why we're in a bad spot, and that only Mrs D has any nouse whatsoever. But this is the brothers' project.

[mark1875]

Another bit of venkys bull

"Venky's bull" maybe, but the poster asked for a statement. he's got one.