Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[BangkokRover]

You misunderstand me. I am not being pro-Venkys nor am I supporting Venkys. Read my post one more time very carefully.

There is nothing wrong with being pro-Venkys, but we have seen how much Man City have spent to get to the Champions League, can you honestly see Rovers/Venkys spending that much?

[BPF]

I'm in a horrible situation at the moment.

I'm in a constant psychological battle between hope and doom. If all that I have heard and read is true then we are in serious trouble. The biggest problem is that Venkys PR seem to have been used as a mouthpiece as opposed to an advisory commission. You may say that there in general there is no real issue with this. However, in this case the source of the information knows nothing about football.

Once upon a time there were three Multi-MILLIONAIRES who owned a Chicken Farm in India. One of the family was prone to spending the family fortune on expensive ventures such as a film company or several status symbol style cars. One day the family were approached by a money hungry wicked witch in regards to buying a stable football that had little chance of ever being relegated, or so they were told. The witch convinced the family with tales of using the club as an international marketing vehicle to spread the Venkys brand. The evil, nasty witch told them that they would only have to pay around ten million pounds a year and the success of the team would sell enough chicken on a global scale to ensure that the family fortune was never touched. The family gave the witch many pots of gold, smiling at their future hopes of borrowing players from other teams to lead their purchase to glory.

Many months later the family were feeling very different. What a horrible place their world had become. If you are optimistic without immediately backing it up, the press eat you alive. Agents want fees for you to sign their players and if you buy a player for £13,000,000 they still want £70,000 a week! The family simply did not have enough pots of gold left to deal with all this.

So many realisations at once was always going to take it's toll. The poor family were left in an awful mess. Profits from ten years of hardwork would hardly cover the aquisition of a small amount of players. This left the family very confused indeed.

The end?

My hope says that the family will recover from the shock of the reality of the Premier League and do the best they can with what they have. The past few months have made me realise that from now on I'm going to listen to nothing that comes from the club / the club's PR as it is likely to be from someone that doesn't see any issues with the club acquiring the services of Neymar.

Venkys, I ask you, I beg you as a fan with a geniune love of the club, start small and build. Regular and often and proper development might actually lead to the club becoming the marketing vehicle that you want it to be.

The content of this post is in my own opinion and is without accusation of any kind.

[philipl]

I mean no offense, but all the posts I have seen from you seem to be based on the hope that Venkys and Rovers will fail.

And it's largely based on what Alan Nixon and Kamy said for the past week - before that you were basing your hopes that Venkys and Rovers will fail on thin air.

Have you listened to the pod cast yet?

I appreciate you are new here but there is a simple equation. If Kamy and nicko posted their sources, you would be in no doubt how reliable the information is that is being posted on this thread. But if they revealed their sources, that would be the end of the good information.

As things stand today, there is precious little upside in the Rovers story but as we have seen, this is a fluid situation and folks who are making a total horlicks of managing their business invariably try to recover the situation and try to do better.

We live in hope.

[vintageadidas]

Well it is all doom and gloom on here isn't it!

I think some people really need to block themselves from this site for their own sanity!

As much as I love checking mr nixons 11 clocker I cannot see how his information is gospel because 1. The only remember of the old regime are Martin and Rob who know little as to what is going on in Pune and 2. Nobody inside venkys fully knows what is happening outside of 2 brothers and mrs D! They are fed up of the information leak and have turned the tap off so to speak.

In relation to a prior post; not that it matters but Paul Robinson is the highest paid player at the club!

Chin up lads we will be making new signings, now I must dash - got a plane to catch!

[den]

I am merely speculating why there is confusion over the budget right now, as Kamy and Alan Nixon seem to be telling us.

The only confusion is from the fans who got hold of the 50m speculation Black Burn. This window is broadly panning out as I and some other posters believed it would.

[Black Burn]

There is nothing wrong with being pro-Venkys, but we have seen how much Man City have spent to get to the Champions League, can you honestly see Rovers/Venkys spending that much?

I actually edited my previous post, but I guess I'll change it back to normal and use the stuff to reply to your current post. I am not saying we will succeed or get Champions League football in 4 years like Kean, nor am I saying we'll get A-list players.

What I am saying is that Venkys found out the hard way that A-list players do not want to play for Blackburn unless you offer them exorbitant wages - which can be a risk if you aren't in a strong position at the moment, and thus have resorted to buying B-list players. Hence the change in budget. Unfortunately, the change was not specified, which is why everyone in charge is running around lost and confused.

It might be a good thing that they have changed their mind and are starting off small instead of trying to get overly expensive players like Cisse. Maybe we will purchase Cisse in future should we succeed in getting a better position next year or even a European place, but I doubt that will happen. Still, my point isn't what we're going to get in future, but that the modus operandi changed in the middle of everything, and without a clear definition of how big the change in the budget should be.

Like I said, whether we will succeed in getting Champions League football in 4 years is another matter.

[nicko]

There were people around here who wanted Venkys to fail from the off. You would have to ask them their reasons for that. I could only guess - if I could be bothered.

However now the ball is at the feet of Venkys and they have to take full responsibility themselves.

Rovers have not had the combination of owners who can and want to put in money - plus the windfall from a sale - for many years.

This point needs to be grasped by those who run the club.

This is a good summer to strike and strengthen, guaranteeing a top-ten place for the next three or four years.

Yes, it is more expensive than they would have thought.

But that should be looked on as investment.

The bottom line is that the team needs one and probably two strikers, a centre half, a midfielder or two. A left winger would be a luxury on top.

So there is a NEED to spend as well as a promise to fulfil.

It would not take much for the owners to get the punters and the critics onside.

Lack of activity will nail them.

The proper signings will make their club much easier to manage.

[Gav]

The probelm is you guys spend to much time on the board in pre-season and talk so much about Blackburn that everyday turns into a week.

What I think you should do is go ahead and book that 3 week holiday to Turkey and come back at the start of August and pay close attention to the transfer market, thats when it will start getting busy.

To be predicting or down playing the new regime on the 5th of July is just pointless.

I take your point chris, but Turkey not a chance, been there 3 times, hated it every time, give me Greece any day.

Gav's waking up at last--------don't discourage him!

[chris]

It is scary- first they have to get somebody who knows how to operate in the transfer market at this new lower level.

There are plenty of pointers now that the relationship with Kentaro/SEM is broken and in any case, those are not the partners ideally suited for rumaging in the bargain basement bin. Unless the answer is Myles Anderson.

Excluding Hughes "who was a bit of genius in buying star for low fees" under Williams our "BIG" four signing were:

Davies 7.25 million

Grabbi 6.75 million

Cole 8 million

Kalinic 6 million

Only Cole was a success and had no resell value as he was already in his 30's.

so it's not like we have seem riches and now we are poor, I'd rather wait as long as possible providing we don't waste money again.

I'd be p1ssed if we have not spent by the transfer deadline obviously, but July 5th, we'd probably get ripped off.

[neophox]

I see that Milan Jovanovic is free to leave Liverpool. It's a player that has been linked with rovers before and would improve our squad. He would be an top player at rovers and I think he'll be cheap.

Then I read that Swansea want Jonathan Soriano. He's a very good striker so if Swansea could attract him maybe we could be in?

[Black Burn]

The only confusion is from the fans who got hold of the 50m speculation Black Burn. This window is broadly panning out as I and some other posters believed it would.

No...I'm not talking about the fans, I was referring to the inner confusion inside Venkys that Alan Nixon and Kamy were talking about.

If you buy their story that the club is in chaos right now, you also have to buy their story that we did in fact had 50 million to spend, but something went horribly wrong the past week and the budget has been cut short. You can't just choose to believe one thing and disbelieve another. That will be selective believing, which is unfair.

And I'm afraid that the window isn't "broadly panning" yet - it's only 5th July. Like I said, Roque Santa Cruz and Benni McCarthy were bought on 28th July 2007 and 2006 respectively. So why do you and some other posters believe, based in the lack of activity on 5th July, that we won't be getting anyone at all for the entire window?

Like Nicko said, some people just want Venkys to fail from the start.

But then again, to be fair, Venkys seem to be shooting themselves in the foot for now. As Nicko said, the ball is in their court. Whether they pick it up and score with the fans remains to be seen. But you don't condemn a criminal before he commits a crime. You condemn him after he commits a crime.

We have until September. While like most people I would prefer transfers to be done early, I think it's still too early to pull the trigger and send Venkys to the firing squad.

Yes, if what Nicko and Kamy said are true, then Venkys got themselves into the mess. Now let's see if they will get themselves out of it. If they don't, you can roast and grill them all you want and I will join you.

But if they do wake up and pull off great signings before the window closes, a lot of critics, naysayers and detractors will have a lot of apologizing to do.

[True Blue & White]

Failed?

Chimbonda released

£3.5m for Formica + Wages

£1m for Rochina + wages

RSC & Jones - £150k a week combined.

Id say they pretty much spent every penny of that £5m, almost all of it on fees alone!

Eh???? No they spent £4.5m on "fees alone", you have to add in wages to get over £5m which was my point.

[BangkokRover]

Excluding Hughes "who was a bit of genius in buying star for low fees" under Williams our "BIG" four signing were:

Davies 7.25 million A good player did not play well for Rovers not sure why.

Grabbi 6.75 million A shocking player who everyone wanted to succeed.

Cole 8 millionPersonally I think Souness handled Cole and Yorke poorly.

Kalinic 6 millionI personally hope he will get a goal or two at the start of the season and get another chance.

[Oklahoma]

According to spanish newspaper "Marca", Valencia made a €6 million bid for Piatti.

It seems it is as far as they'll go for him.

Piatti to Valencia?

Get in there, Venky's. He is not that expensive!!!

[pick32]

I see that Milan Jovanovic is free to leave Liverpool. It's a player that has been linked with rovers before and would improve our squad. He would be an top player at rovers and I think he'll be cheap.

Would rather have pedersen on the left wing he is probably quicker. Jovanovic is slow and has shocking fitness would hate him at Rovers.

[neophox]

nicko is there any working going on bringing in players to the club, I mean, isn't Kean working on the training ground at the moment?

Also I see both Hoilett and Samba went to Austria.

Any news regarding our two hottest players?

[chris]

Davies 7.25 million A good player did not play well for Rovers not sure why.

[/b]

Keep in mind he didn't play well for 4 years after leaving Blackburn averaging about 3 goals a season.

Maybe eventually he found his confidence and strengths as a target man rather then a goal scorer, he will never get many goals.

Eh???? No they spent £4.5m on "fees alone", you have to add in wages to get over £5m which was my point.

You don't think you're being a bit harsh here? its pretty much 5 million promised

[MuchGip]

Linked with Mongongu from Monaco - never heard of him but that is a fantastic name and seems keen on Rovers. . .

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7021254,00.html

[A cup of beans]

Any news regarding our two hottest players?

hotties ???

[Taggart]

Linked with Mongongu from Monaco - never heard of him but that is a fantastic name and seems keen on Rovers. . .

http://www.skysports...7021254,00.html

Is that not Sambas mate that we were linked to about 2 weeks ago ?

[Al]

Linked with Mongongu from Monaco - never heard of him but that is a fantastic name and seems keen on Rovers. . .

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7021254,00.html

Looks as evil as Samba.

[True Blue & White]

You can't just choose to believe one thing and disbelieve another. That will be selective believing, which is unfair.

Um...yes you can. People can sometimes lie and sometimes tell the truth, people can sometimes say stuff that makes sense and then say something else which makes no sense at all. Jeffrey Archer is a proven liar but that doesn't mean everything he has ever said is a lie does it?

[walk down bolton road]

There were people around here who wanted Venkys to fail from the off. You would have to ask them their reasons for that. I could only guess - if I could be bothered.

However now the ball is at the feet of Venkys and they have to take full responsibility themselves.

Rovers have not had the combination of owners who can and want to put in money - plus the windfall from a sale - for many years.

This point needs to be grasped by those who run the club.

This is a good summer to strike and strengthen, guaranteeing a top-ten place for the next three or four years.

Yes, it is more expensive than they would have thought.

But that should be looked on as investment.Nicko i think this sums everything up perfectly,spot on.

The bottom line is that the team needs one and probably two strikers, a centre half, a midfielder or two. A left winger would be a luxury on top.

So there is a NEED to spend as well as a promise to fulfil.

It would not take much for the owners to get the punters and the critics onside.

Lack of activity will nail them.

The proper signings will make their club much easier to manage.

[Taggart]

Would snap there hands off if we could get him for 6 million ! interesting article, yet typical Spurs. Woudl be a brilliant addition to our midfield would Krancjar

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7021288,00.html

[True Blue & White]

There were people around here who wanted Venkys to fail from the off. You would have to ask them their reasons for that. I could only guess - if I could be bothered.

That's a tad harsh. I don't think any Blackburn fan wants them to fail, it's just some of us don't think they have the tools to succeeed and are realists at the same time.

There is nothing wrong with being realistically optimistic but being deluded is another matter.