Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[neophox]

I think the situation has calmed down a bit and people's positions have become more clear - with roles more defined after a crazy few days.

It is becoming obvious that the agents advising the owners - that is Kentaro more than SEM - will have a huge say on recruitment.

So the lists of last week, possibly as many as THREE, were something of a waste of time.

Where that leaves the 'live' targets is what is keeping me occupied just now.

There HAS to be a decision on Miranda shortly.

Moves for Vucinic [the manager's choice], Cisse [somebody else's] and Keane [the manager again] are nowhere near done. Mind you, they have not joined anybody else either.

Piatti still has not had the call. But he has still not had the call from anyone.

Witsel is there to be done and seems to have the agreement of the committee.

WHICH COMMITTEE??

It is all slightly mad, pretty new and a bit of a drag.

If you get some good players nobody will care. If you don't I would suggest there will be big trouble ahead.

[USABlue]

I think everyone should relax and just wait a bit before jumping on the anti-keane, Venky band wagon. Instead of looking at Rovers in isolation let us look at the premiership as a whole. Out of 20 clubs, Rovers are 1 of 12 clubs not to sign anyone yet. 60% of clubs haven't signed anyone!. We are not alone! 80% of transfer go through in the last week of the window. I know we all want signings but moaning will not make it happen quicker. If the transfer window ends and we have signed c**P or no one then we can moan.

Arsenal - signed no one - looks like three of the best players will leave.

Aston Villa - signed no one - two of the best players leave.

Rovers - signed no one - lost Jones.

Bolton - signed some chap from Swansea - lost one striker.

Chelsea - signed no one

Everton - signed no one

Fulham - signed no one

Liverpool - a few signing so far

Man City - no one

Man Utd - a few signing so far

Newcastle - a few signing so far

Norwich - who cares

QPR - signed championship players - best player will leave - big season ticket hum

Stoke - signed no one

Sunderland - a few signings

Swansea - One player in and one out

Spurs - no one

West Brom - no one

Wigan - no one

Wolves - - no one

Burnley - In Messi, Ronaldo, Beckham, Rooney and Xavi. Out: Alexander

Don't be silly, didn't Alexander just sign an extension?

[American]

Don't be silly, didn't Alexander just sign an extension?

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Burnely-have-told-1-000-game-club-legend-Graham-Alexander-to-find-another-club-article754214.html

[beastlove]

I think it's more the reasons (or the reported reasons by Nicko) that people are getting restless.

Have you read what Alan posted earlier in the thread?

Yes and it is concerning but still better than the last few years. At least we are looking and talking about signing people. For the last two years we haven't really signed anyone oof any real merit. There is a lot of change at rovers but change had to happen. Under the walker family we would have been relegated eventually through lack of resources.

Nicko might be right but do we believe that everything is perfect at other clubs. Look at villa for example

Btw, Clichey was in the top four left backs in the perm last year.

[Tardyrover]

Who gives a toss about burnley and why the link!?

[beastlove]

What about making a bid for Southamptons Alex Chamberlain, the kid is a future England man!

Why. Unproven expensive and we have jr toliet at the moment

[rebelmswar]

Why. Unproven expensive and we have jr toliet at the moment

I hope that was an auto correct.

[beastlove]

The signing of nobody is not the issue for me, it is quiet everywhere, message boards of other clubs are in meltdown as well from what I've seen.

It is this 'committee' palava that has me worried, sounds like a complete farcial way of doing transfer business.

Why is committe so bad? We are spending millions on players. Surely discussing it in depth first is a good idea. Most companies discuss major investments . I never liked the alternative with a manager responsible for signings. Look how much cash Paul the gov wasted. Most European clubs employ a director of football for this very reason. A lot of people think keen cannot pick a team, so what chance does he have in spending millions. Look at how much redknapp wastes every year or wolves Mick .

There are thousands of players. Take some time and get the best

[Black Burn]

Why is committe so bad? We are spending millions on players. Surely discussing it in depth first is a good idea. Most companies discuss major investments . I never liked the alternative with a manager responsible for signings. Look how much cash Paul the gov wasted. Most European clubs employ a director of football for this very reason. A lot of people think keen cannot pick a team, so what chance does he have in spending millions. Look at how much redknapp wastes every year or wolves Mick .

There are thousands of players. Take some time and get the best

From what I infer, the problem isn't that we aren't buying players. It's that we don't have a director of football, and the commitee seems unable to make a decision despite discussing at great length, or rather they are discussing all other things such as moles, who to sack and whatever rather than which football player to hire.

That's the gist I got from Alan Nixon anyway.

[booth]

Under the walker family we would have been relegated eventually through lack of resources.

Do you seriously think with the way things are at the moment we have any chance of staying out of a relegation battle?

We've sold our best defender in Phil Jones.

Jermaine Jones has gone back to Schalke.

The staff can't agree on who we should sign (how many top flight managers would put up with that?)

Both Jones's were vital to us staying up last season, and it was very close even with those guys in the team.

I'm willing to give Venky's a chance but as someone else said today, they don't help themselves.

[Mattyblue]

Why is committe so bad? We are spending millions on players. Surely discussing it in depth first is a good idea. Most companies discuss major investments . I never liked the alternative with a manager responsible for signings. Look how much cash Paul the gov wasted. Most European clubs employ a director of football for this very reason. A lot of people think keen cannot pick a team, so what chance does he have in spending millions. Look at how much redknapp wastes every year or wolves Mick .

There are thousands of players. Take some time and get the best

A director of football yes, a 'committee' consisting of mainly agents, event planners, a Rao brother who can't get his head up from Football Manager 2011 and if he's lucky the actual team manager of BRFC- no.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Do you seriously think with the way things are at the moment we have any chance of staying out of a relegation battle?

We've sold our best defender in Phil Jones.

Jermaine Jones has gone back to Schalke.

The staff can't agree on who we should sign (how many top flight managers would put up with that?)

Both Jones's were vital to us staying up last season, and it was very close even with those guys in the team.

I'm willing to give Venky's a chance but as someone else said today, they don't help themselves.

Phil Jones leaving is irrelevant. He would have left under either regime. We stand a far better chance of staying out of a relegation battle with Venky's then we did under the Trust. The managers over the past 4/5 years had to pull out miracles in the transfer market to keep us afloat. We now have the money to invest in decent talent for a sustainable amount of time. Whether they know how to spend it is what we're asking now, but at least they have cash in the first place.

[USRoverME]

To be fair, if we go back to last season about this time, weren't there similar types of fears about singings? the Trust arguing versus the club about money available or not available, one list if cash is there, one list if cash is not. Sam making noises about lack of support, etc.

Frankly, we are talking about multi-million pound purchases. I don't know about you, but I know that when large purchases come up in my house and at my work, well, lets just say there's often a heated discussion and often a few disagreements. That being said, disagreements end, things get bought, business rolls on.

I think every club has tension in this time frame. Ours is a bit different at the moment than many club's issues/tensions, because of the turnover in staff, but if you look at everything posted by Nicko and Kamy and others in the know, in general it always ends with the "if they straighten it out..." situation in which things look more rosy than dire. I'm pretty sure that sooner rather than later (and certainly well in time to sign the appropriate folks) cooler heads will prevail, everyone will see what needs doing from a total business perspective, and business will get done.

To think that all of the parties involved will prattle on indecisively to all their own detriment is not really a reasonable position, and is probably based mostly on fear.

[McClarky]

I don't think the problem is that we haven't signed anyone, it's that we don't have a structure in place which would make anyone want to sign for us. Players aren't only driven by money, and if they are we don't want em, but thats all we can offer them with no-one to sell the club and its prospects to them. I doubt many people on here would move to a new job if they had no idea who they were working for or what the plans were.

GET IT SORTED.

[booth]

Phil Jones leaving is irrelevant. He would have left under either regime. We stand a far better chance of staying out of a relegation battle with Venky's then we did under the Trust. The managers over the past 4/5 years had to pull out miracles in the transfer market to keep us afloat. We now have the money to invest in decent talent for a sustainable amount of time. Whether they know how to spend it is what we're asking now, but at least they have cash in the first place.

Oh my days how is it irrelevant? And what's him leaving under either regime got to do with anything?

It's highly relevant because he needs to be replaced. Now he's quite a good player I've heard, the sort you miss

Now if what Nicko posted is true then it's very worrying that we aren't being more efficient in finding a replacement.

Make sense?

[Andy]

As good as it would be, Kean won't walk - I'm 100% sure of that.

Who else would employ him, especially in a managerial role?

Even Accy would turn him down.

[True Blue & White]

I think everyone should relax and just wait a bit before jumping on the anti-keane, Venky band wagon. Instead of looking at Rovers in isolation let us look at the premiership as a whole. Out of 20 clubs, Rovers are 1 of 12 clubs not to sign anyone yet. 60% of clubs haven't signed anyone!. We are not alone! 80% of transfer go through in the last week of the window. I know we all want signings but moaning will not make it happen quicker. If the transfer window ends and we have signed c**P or no one then we can moan.

Arsenal - signed no one - looks like three of the best players will leave.

Aston Villa - signed no one - two of the best players leave.

Rovers - signed no one - lost Jones.

Bolton - signed some chap from Swansea - lost one striker.

Chelsea - signed no one

Everton - signed no one

Fulham - signed no one

Liverpool - a few signing so far

Man City - no one

Man Utd - a few signing so far

Newcastle - a few signing so far

Norwich - who cares

QPR - signed championship players - best player will leave - big season ticket hum

Stoke - signed no one

Sunderland - a few signings

Swansea - One player in and one out

Spurs - no one

West Brom - no one

Wigan - no one

Wolves - - no one

Burnley - In Messi, Ronaldo, Beckham, Rooney and Xavi. Out: Alexander

Arsenal have signed Carl Jenkinson, Fulham have signed Dan Burn, Liverpool haven't signed a 'few' they've signed Jordan Henderson @£20m, Man United have signed one of the country's most promising and league ready defenders from us in Phil Jones, England winger Ashley Young and the best young goal keeper in Europe in David De Gea..that's a good 'few', Norwich have signed four players whether you care or not (you should unless you think we're a shoe in for the top 10 next season), Spurs have signed Rover's legend Brad Freidel, West Brom have made two signings and Wolves have signed Jamie O'Hara and De Vries. Also, none of the teams have lost 4 match day squad players like us (RSC, Phil Jones, J.Jones, Benjani) as well has having two other key players' futures in doubt (Samba and Hoilett). You are also forgetting that many of those clubs have also puts bid in or are in negotiations unlike Rovers who are yet to even turn on the fax machine.

I get your point, and to some degree you do have one but why spoil it by skewing the facts?

[chocky]

Just anounced on SSN that Real Madrid have offered Arsenal 50,000,000 euros for Fabregas..They are going to lose 3 of their best players whatever haoppens.

[Speedie Dived]

After yesterdays rumours of 3 players at Brockhall there is silence today, nothing, nada, diddly squat. Are Venkys still playing hunt the mole? Has the mole been uncovered?

Who was the poster that said whenever they go on holiday we make signings? I am prepared to start your holiday fund with a full 10 english pounds, you are the key to the whole summer, now that's pressure :-)

[chaddyrovers]

Has anyone actually seen this guy play? Or is it all "he is ace on Football Manager. Lets get him".

Are you asking about Papiss Cisse?

If you are then yeah i have a couple of times on Espn last season. He scored in both games and look quality. I

What is football manager? People keep mentioning this on here.

[Iceman]

Are you asking about Papiss Cisse?

If you are then yeah i have a couple of times on Espn last season. He scored in both games and look quality. I

What is football manager? People keep mentioning this on here.

not Cisse, Piatti

[Roberto Policano]

What about making a bid for Southamptons Alex Chamberlain, the kid is a future England man!

Is he not off to Arsenal though.

Kentaro working with Fabregas on his image rights at Barcelona.

[True Blue & White]

What is football manager?

The thing Steve Kean's pretending to be.

[Billy Castell]

And as someone else pointed out, who'd want to replace him when the football world is seemingly mocking the Rao family and thiks they're naive at best? Kean has been poor, but we might get someone even worse (I'm sure that's possible guv'nor) and/or desperate.

I think we're all panicing because we thought Cisse, Piatti etc. would sign up really quickly before other clubs may come in the picture. Since they're not at Ewood Park yet, the fears that some tossers like Spurs swooping in are out of control. Right now, as I type, I think things are looking OK and I'd rather take that extra week to get the moves sorted out properly than throw crazy contracts and fees as if your hair is on fire and you're in an auction for a fire extinguisher.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Oh my days how is it irrelevant? And what's him leaving under either regime got to do with anything?

It's highly relevant because he needs to be replaced. Now he's quite a good player I've heard, the sort you miss

Now if what Nicko posted is true then it's very worrying that we aren't being more efficient in finding a replacement.

Make sense?

Its irrelevant when comparing our chances of relegation between the management of Venky's and the Trust. I wasn't saying that P.Jones loss was irrelevant to the playing squad.

Make sense?