Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[rebelmswar]

Those last 2 words in your post are the most significant.

If you think selling N'Zonzi is a good idea you really don't know anything.

Whilst we disagree politically, our thoughts on football are identical.

For the love of God selling Zonzi now with no replacment ready would be suicidal. We have been lacking in midfield for years.

Money is all well and good but selling because the offer looked nice is base stupidity.

[A cup of beans]

i think he the kind of player that will thrive under pulis , look what he done with pennant, they need a replacement for carew and i think cole is perfect for them he will get the best out of him

paid over the odds for jones, pennant and cole - was my point.

dont think he will thrive, cos he hasnt consistantly shown he has anything special, since he became a pro.

whether cole thrives or not.. who cares!

[rebelmswar]

so do you think nzonzi was as good last season.. or looked as comfortable for us ?

is he irreplacable ?? really?

TEN MILLION POUNDS!

With the idiotic money being thrown around.

YES. I do.

[A cup of beans]

Think hes in on this Indian/Rao scam to fleece us all and raid our cupboards ......

[Mercer]

stoke close to agreeing deal to sign carlton cole for 6 million, isn't he worth he gamble rather than spend 8.5 on a unknown from a Danish league

IMO, the guy struggles with his fitness and Stoke will not get 2 games a week out of him. In fact, I doubt that they'll get 20 games a season out of him. Again, IMO, good business by Sam.

[EWOODACE1]

Those last 2 words in your post are the most significant.

If you think selling N'Zonzi is a good idea you really don't know anything.

why does that mean he doesnt know anything. thats just you being self opinion-ated.

in my view if someone was offering decent money for him then we should consider selling. i personally do not rate him at all though i know im in a small group there as he somehow won player of the season 2 seasons ago.

he cannot keep possession, cant direct a header and gets caught out of position far to often.

the only problem is if we sell too many players then we have to get a lot in and the moral in our owners certainly isnt high enough at the mo for us to trust that will happen

[Hi Mack]

Selling Nzonzi is madness.......

Sacking Big sam was madness......

Buying the likes of Anderson and warner all madness!

Welcome to planet Venkys where Kean is King!

[A cup of beans]

With the idiotic money being thrown around.

YES. I do.

there were reports of nzonzi being unhappy last season in the press and hearsay that he was disruptive.. or have i dreamt it ??

that aside.. lets lets just consider this for a second...

lets imagine.. at the very least rovers buy mccarthy and JJ

youd still turn the 10m down ??

[adsfortheblues]

Nzonzi wont go, hes another that "loves" Kean, all the young players in the squad Ollson, hoillett, nzonzi, Lowe seem to belive in themselves after benig given a chance by Kean (a proper chance). I think the same will apply yo formica, Rochina and blackman this coming season. This is a good thing that goes in Keans favour/.

[jim mk2]

youd still turn the 10m down ??

Yes, because Venky's would trouser it ... the same place where the P. Jones £16.5m money has gone never to be spent.

[Mercer]

Our lack of progress with new signings is making us more vulnerable by the day.

Samba and Hoilett will have seen nothing to think we are going places. As for Nzonzi, first big offer and he'll be off and I wouldn't rule out Arsenal. Could you blame the lad ?

It's all looking pretty sick.

[cruz]

This thread just lurches from hysteria to idiocy

[A cup of beans]

Nzonzi wont go, hes another that "loves" Kean, all the young players in the squad Ollson, hoillett, nzonzi, Lowe seem to belive in themselves after benig given a chance by Kean (a proper chance). I think the same will apply yo formica, Rochina and blackman this coming season. This is a good thing that goes in Keans favour/.

i agree with your comments about kean giving the youth a chance.. add josh morris to the list too.

its all hypothetical on nzonzi.. he's a fine player! i just dont think he's irreplaceable and 10m is too much for him! IMO

[Roversi]

We should'nt even think about selling N'Zonzi, its all talk at this stage, he is an important part of the clubs future and anything under 10 million should be glanced at and put in the paper bin. He is a vital player in my view, if he can add a bit more mucsel and work on his technical vision than he could become a top top player, wouldn't bet against a french call up if he has a blinding start to the season.

As for Venky's recent comments, finally in my view some postivity and clear thinking. long term, we cant afford to have 2-3 marquee players on 60k plus, it would cripple us. something like 85% of our income is on wages in the first place, and if venky's main objective is to get us into europe thier are strict incoming rules that need to be followed. I think they have finally got a clear strategy now that has the potential to work.

[artemorethanlabore]

This thread just lurches from hysteria to idiocy

Raargh, MADNESS!

[rebelmswar]

there were reports of nzonzi being unhappy last season in the press and hearsay that he was disruptive.. or have i dreamt it ??

that aside.. lets lets just consider this for a second...

lets imagine.. at the very least rovers buy mccarthy and JJ

youd still turn the 10m down ??

I doubt we could get them both for 10 million.

If we did have them then I would still be reluctant but would see the sense in it. I feel a club like ours need to keep and nurture our youth.

Only after we had signed them though.

[cruz]

I agree that Alan Nixon is a reliable sketchy source of rumours, but this could be one of the few times he is wrong right. That is my point here. Perhaps he is 99.9% right wrong all the time, but the news he brings now might jusft fall into the 0.1% category.

Have you read Nicko's information? You have got the percentages the wrong way round.

[Black Burn]

Have you read Nicko's information? You have got the percentages the wrong way round.

No, I was responding to 47er. The numbers are made up because I was only giving an example.

[rebelmswar]

No, I was responding to 47er. The numbers are made up because I was only giving an example.

Just a question, how can anyone be a reliable source for rumors?

Unless of course you mean it is reliable that he will come up with some, much like I am very reliable when it comes to taking a wizz at least twice a day.

[Black Burn]

Just a question, how can anyone be a reliable source for rumors?

Unless of course you mean it is reliable that he will come up with some, much like I am very reliable when it comes to taking a wizz at least twice a day.

No, I meant he is reliable in that he is honest and tells us what he knows.

I wasn't referring to the reliability of his information. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Amo]

Raargh, MADNESS!

...Madness?

[Roverino]

stoke close to agreeing deal to sign carlton cole for 6 million, isn't he worth he gamble rather than spend 8.5 on a unknown from a Danish league

8.5 is steep for an unknown, but £6.29 is a bit steep for Cole, for me he's consistently been a 'could be great', 'fantastic potential', 'hard worker', but he's never actually been a consistent performer at this level, and he doesnt score enough goals. We've enough hard working strikers (JR, Benjani - I use the term strikers loosely) , we need a natural finisher.

[LeChuck]

I know Cole's career stats aren't great, but his last few seasons haven't been bad.

Year ........... Games . Goals

2010–11 ... 36 ......... 11

2009–10 ... 32 ......... 10

2008–09 ... 32 ......... 12

Far better than the likes of Roberts and Kalinic over the same period. His biggest problem is consistency; on his day he's unplayable, but others he can be infuriating.

£6 million doesn't buy you much nowadays, but he's become a regular goalscorer and can play the lone striker role. We should be at least considering it, this is the third summer we've been looking for strikers abroad that offer good value and we haven't done well so far.

A goal every three games at this level is worth £6 million, surely?

[chris]

why does that mean he doesnt know anything. thats just you being self opinion-ated.

in my view if someone was offering decent money for him then we should consider selling. i personally do not rate him at all though i know im in a small group there as he somehow won player of the season 2 seasons ago.

he cannot keep possession, cant direct a header and gets caught out of position far to often.

the only problem is if we sell too many players then we have to get a lot in and the moral in our owners certainly isnt high enough at the mo for us to trust that will happen

I'm with you on this, I don't think he is that great, I would 100% take 10 million, but we would never get that.

I don't see any point in selling for basic value which is probably 4 million because we don't have Jones or Jones now.

[dubdubdub]

I'm with you on this, I don't think he is that great, I would 100% take 10 million, but we would never get that.

I don't see any point in selling for basic value which is probably 4 million because we don't have Jones or Jones now.

I was of the opinion when he won player of the season that he wasn't as good as people made out. The end of last season completely changed my mind though. He benefitted from having someone who could play in the middle of the park and looked a lot more comfortable on the ball and put the occasional pass in and made the occasional run. He can't hold the midfield on his own yet but he's an exciting prospect. He needs that engine to work alongside. Selling him would be daft even at 10 million because we don't know whether we can bring anyone in as a sufficient replacement. We can't sell half the squad and rebuild it in one window.

In a year or two when he's really leaarnt the game he'll be a corker.