Summer 2011 Transfer Window - Part 3.

[Black Burn]

I think from the Mongungu report we can safely assume that if there are going to be any signings, it will be next week when Kean returns to UK.

And I think it's safe to say the Onuoha transfer isn't going to happen this week either.

[LeChuck]

Spurs are very frugal with their money. Levy refuses to pay high wages.. most of those guys are on £40k a week.

Perhaps. But Spurs need to sell before they can buy (Redknapp has said as much), so they'll want players gone well before the deadline.

Either way they're notorious for asking high fees, regardless of the time of year.

[gumboots]

I think from the Mongungu report we can safely assume that if there are going to be any signings, it will be next week when Kean returns to UK.

And I think it's safe to say the Onuoha transfer isn't going to happen this week either.

Or more probably not at all.

[Ricky]

Sunderland have signed O'Shea who is 30 and Brown who is 31 on 4 year deals. I'm guessing fee's and wages would be very high for two older players who in all honesty have never really impressed me.

Pleased we steered clear of those two. Would have liked us to go for Vaughan or Gardner though, saying that they both got relegated last year so how good are they?

[Kelbo]

Sorry but in the grand scheme of things, the 3-4 games in August are not the be all and end all.

Fancy rushing into a deal to sign any striker, we end up with N'Doye, who by the looks of it will be another Kalinic.

Or we could wait, and put up with not signing him yet, wait, and if Cisse drops his wage demands, we could have a striker who could potentially score 10 more goals than N'Doye in a season.

No point in rushing as long as we get the best end product.

The first 3 or four games bloody well are, we have a decent run of fixtures, if we dont pick up points there, we could be in massive trouble, Kenny Dalglish and Sparky had a philosophy, get as many points as we can as quickly as we can, takes loads of pressure off both players and supporters.

[booth]

Sunderland have signed O'Shea who is 30 and Brown who is 31 on 4 year deals. I'm guessing fee's and wages would be very high for two older players who in all honesty have never really impressed me.

Pleased we steered clear of those two. Would have liked us to go for Vaughan or Gardner though, saying that they both got relegated last year so how good are they?

O'Shea and Brown would have been awful. VERY pleased we steered clear of them.

Would have liked Vaughn. Damn.

[gumboots]

Sunderland have signed O'Shea who is 30 and Brown who is 31 on 4 year deals. I'm guessing fee's and wages would be very high for two older players who in all honesty have never really impressed me.

Pleased we steered clear of those two. Would have liked us to go for Vaughan or Gardner though, saying that they both got relegated last year so how good are they?

There has to be a happy medium though where even if you haven't signed anyone the fans can see you trying to get things done properly without going ott and spending more than you could realistically afford on players past their prime. We've needed ordinary dcent players for a long time in certain positions and we still don't seem to be seeing any action at all. Now there are still plenty of other clubs who have signed nobody of note for their first team either but their best players are not in many cases being rumoured to wantaway or be the target of other clubs. (Arsenal being a notable exception) In most cases you can see in the players they are linked with some kind of plan and scheme to improve their squad. All I can see atm is our squad being potentially weakened and perhaps that's not true but the sight of one well-thought out target brought in quickly and efficiently would not go amiss and would calm our nerves quite a lot.

[booth]

The better teams squad players, who would be brilliant for us, will be shifted out at a lower price towards the end, as clubs try to get rid of wages etc.

Spurs: Krankjar, Jenas, Bassong, Bentley, Defoe, Crouch, Dos Santos,

Chelsea: Benayoun, Borini, Zhirkov,

City: Bellamy, Bridge, Onuoha, Jo, SWP,

United: Park, Evans, Gibson, Anderson, Macheda,

Arsenal: Diaby, Vela,

All players that would be an improvement on what we have got, and by the end of summer, some of them will still be at their current clubs and available for a reasonable price.

Of those I wouldn't mind Krankjar, Bentley, Defoe, Crouch, Zhirkov, Bellamy, Onuoha, Park. Not sure about any of the others.

[True Blue & White]

Sorry but in the grand scheme of things, the 3-4 games in August are not the be all and end all.

We got 6 points from our opening four games in August last season, without them we'd have been relegated...but yeah who cares about the first 4 games

[leerovers1980]

you check the banter between , samba, roberts and olsson on twitter very funny lol

[john.leigh]

Excuse me if this has been mentioned, it's hard keeping track. But Balaji's recent comments contradict Mrs Desai's again. He says we are looking for strikers and midfielders, but she said we are looking for strikers and defenders.

Balaji's quote came out after Mrs D's so maybe he knows we've got the defenders (imminently) signed and we're moving on to strikers and midfielders now...?

[Parsonblue]

Sorry but in the grand scheme of things, the 3-4 games in August are not the be all and end all.

Fancy rushing into a deal to sign any striker, we end up with N'Doye, who by the looks of it will be another Kalinic.

Or we could wait, and put up with not signing him yet, wait, and if Cisse drops his wage demands, we could have a striker who could potentially score 10 more goals than N'Doye in a season.

No point in rushing as long as we get the best end product.

Sorry, but with all due respect no team can afford to get off to a poor start. The season starts on the 15th August and we should be ready. If not it's down to poor preparation on the part of the manager and the owners. I assume that if the first 3-4 games are not important then the club will be allowing spectators in for free.

It seems to me that the deadline for these owners to prove themselves keeps getting put further and further back. First it was the end of the January window, then the end of the season, then it was the summer, now it's the end of August and come the 31st August it will be lets wait until Christmas.

The bottom line for the Rao family is that the time has come to put up or shut up. They talk a good game - eighth place and a cup "because we deserve it" was the phrase one of the brother used. Well now is the time to deliver and the likes of Myles Anderson and Benjani are not going to cut much ice with the fans. The fact that season ticket sales are significantly down suggests than many fans are about to deliever their judgement and simply walk away from the circus that Blackburn Rovers has become.

[donegalrover]

hi lads havs nicko retired his services from the MB. its just havent seen any posts from him in a while

[gumboots]

hi lads havs nicko retired his services from the MB. its just havent seen any posts from him in a while

See the relevant thread in ICBINF

[john.leigh]

hi lads havs nicko retired his services from the MB. its just havent seen any posts from him in a while

He's had a dummy spit & cleared off

There's a thread dedicated to his memory in the "I can't believe it's not football" section

[DeadlyDirk]

Sunderland have signed O'Shea who is 30 and Brown who is 31 on 4 year deals. I'm guessing fee's and wages would be very high for two older players who in all honesty have never really impressed me.

Pleased we steered clear of those two. Would have liked us to go for Vaughan or Gardner though, saying that they both got relegated last year so how good are they?

Completely agree there, I think Brown is the better of the two but I think largely the reason why these 2 have looked like 'decent' players is because they played for Manure and had plenty of talent around them.

[Hi Mack]

We got 6 points from our opening four games in August last season, without them we'd have been relegated...but yeah who cares about the first 4 games

Exactly, what an idiotic post....every game is as important as any other....players should be in before the 1st game! It's fact players become more expensive tirades the end of the window see Carroll Robiniho Berbatov! I'm a little worried Arsenals interest in Samba has gone quiet...they do want him just hope we refuse any approach so it's the end of it! If they come in for him with a few days left in the window we might not be able to replace him!

[Give 'Em the Axe]

Yep. Saying the first run of games count for nowt is bananas. mark Lawrenson-esque levels of inanity! No offence meant, mate, but every game is a potential 3 points and every batch of points we pick up is GOLD.

[den]

Sorry, but with all due respect no team can afford to get off to a poor start. The season starts on the 15th August and we should be ready. If not it's down to poor preparation on the part of the manager and the owners. I assume that if the first 3-4 games are not important then the club will be allowing spectators in for free.

You will remember this PB:

In the '66 season, many supporters put the clubs relegation down to the Polio epidemic, which meant rovers didn't KO the season until the rest of the league had already played half a dozen games. We were nailed to the bottom of the league from our first game and never recovered from it. That's a good example of how important a good start can be.

Start badly and it can set the season.

[dubdubdub]

Of those I wouldn't mind Krankjar, Bentley, Defoe, Crouch, Zhirkov, Bellamy, Onuoha, Park. Not sure about any of the others.

Benayoun?

[Roverino]

I know Cole's career stats aren't great, but his last few seasons haven't been bad.

Year ........... Games . Goals

201011 ... 36 ......... 11

200910 ... 32 ......... 10

200809 ... 32 ......... 12

Far better than the likes of Roberts and Kalinic over the same period. His biggest problem is consistency; on his day he's unplayable, but others he can be infuriating.

£6 million doesn't buy you much nowadays, but he's become a regular goalscorer and can play the lone striker role. We should be at least considering it, this is the third summer we've been looking for strikers abroad that offer good value and we haven't done well so far.

A goal every three games at this level is worth £6 million, surely?

When you put it like that its difficult to argue, I would just be concerned that if we signed Cole, we'd been signing him as our main striking target. I'd be happy if we signed him along with another more prolific striker but as you say, its all about how bottomless the Venky's pit is... and who's available at the right price.

For the record (and judging by this thread it's a damn long record) I hold Venky's innocent until proven guilty. Its not the end of the window yet, not even halfway through. I'll be judging them at the end of it. In any case, what choice have we got, they own our club, they're not going anywhere soon, and any penny they spend will be a penny more than the trust were willing to give.

[DE.]

Brown's not a bad player at all and I think he'd have done alright for us - problem is his wages are likely to be high and we don't really want another right-back on large wages.

O'Shea would have been good for the comedy factor, but otherwise glad we've avoided.

[patrickvalery]

When i look on the 'Transfer Talk' board it thoroughly depresses me. Some of the names on that list just go to show how much dross there is in the game nowadays. To think, we have more cash to spend than in recent history, and we are having to pick from a very very ordinary bracket of player. It seems that once you drop beneath what could be termed 'marquee' type players, there is a gulf of bog standard players all over priced and over paid.

[John]

I know Cole's career stats aren't great, but his last few seasons haven't been bad.

Year ........... Games . Goals

201011 ... 36 ......... 11

200910 ... 32 ......... 10

200809 ... 32 ......... 12

Far better than the likes of Roberts and Kalinic over the same period. His biggest problem is consistency; on his day he's unplayable, but others he can be infuriating.

£6 million doesn't buy you much nowadays, but he's become a regular goalscorer and can play the lone striker role. We should be at least considering it, this is the third summer we've been looking for strikers abroad that offer good value and we haven't done well so far.

A goal every three games at this level is worth £6 million, surely?

I think Cole is probably worth a gamble - interesting when looking at Coles stats is how many goals in the Premier League and Cup competitions though (key stats are surely are the PL goals).

[saxo1man30]

I think Cole is probably worth a gamble - interesting when looking at Cole’s stats is how many goals in the Premier League and Cup competitions though (key stats are surely are the PL goals).

i`ve said all along we should move for carlton cole. he`s a proven premier league goalscorer at hopefully a fair price, fee and wages wise.