[Archived] Rumour: Venky's To Sell?

[broadsword]

Act fast *and* find someone to give them good advice *and* heed it.

They've acted fast before and royally mucked it up.

[PAFELL]

By positive I meant that this is the first time that they have acknowledged these kind of problems, hopefully the next step is to solve these problems. This is not to say that things are fine, because they are not. Venky's have created a mountain of problems that they need to solve quickly because the club is in a state of limbo/meltdown. However the situation can still be retrieved if they act fast.

Maybe you should offer your services - point them in the right direction etc. Time is of the essence now.

[daveJ]

How can anybody who went to molineux want venkys out? We all got £10 food vouchers

[Makey11]

Have been told that the topic of selling Rovers is now closed. Venky's are going to push forward with their plans for the club.

There is now a recognition that decision making is taking far to long and that is an area that is going to be looked at ASAP, they also realise that the vision that they had about Kentaro helping to run the club has not worked.

The meeting between Kean and the owners from what I hear was a very Frank exchange of views, no idea what this means re Kean's future, but don't think he will be sacked.

Maybe the recognition that there are problems will now mean that these issues will be addressed, and Kean being very frank with the owners will result in some clarity re transfer funds.

I can't reveal all that I have been told bur for the first time in a long time I feel more positive and there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

I don't know who's told you all this..... But the meeting hasn't taken place yet.....

Steve keans flight got cancelled.

He's on a plane over there as we speak lol

[Kamy100]

I don't know who's told you all this..... But the meeting hasn't taken place yet.....

Steve keans flight got cancelled.

He's on a plane over there as we speak lol

Yup know that the flight got cancelled, think that he left at 6pm tonight. There was a meeting earlier today via conference call earlier today, which involved a number of people at Ewood. Kean has still gone out to discuss things further on a face to face basis as he is not a entirely happy with the situation.

[Makey11]

Yup know that the flight got cancelled, think that he left at 6pm tonight. There was a meeting earlier today via conference call earlier today, which involved a number of people at Ewood. Kean has still gone out to discuss things further on a face to face basis as he is not a entirely happy with the situation.

Yup your on the ball!

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Yup know that the flight got cancelled, think that he left at 6pm tonight. There was a meeting earlier today via conference call earlier today, which involved a number of people at Ewood. Kean has still gone out to discuss things further on a face to face basis as he is not a entirely happy with the situation.

Which bit is he not happy about? We seem no further on with anything than we were 6 weeks ago.

[Kamy100]

Which bit is he not happy about? We seem no further on with anything than we were 6 weeks ago.

He allegedly unhappy that the players that he wants have not been signed, and that promises were made re transfer budgets and have not been kept.

[daverich]

Yup know that the flight got cancelled, think that he left at 6pm tonight. There was a meeting earlier today via conference call earlier today, which involved a number of people at Ewood. Kean has still gone out to discuss things further on a face to face basis as he is not a entirely happy with the situation.

Kamy, has Jensen gone to India with Kean?

[booth]

I don't know who's told you all this..... But the meeting hasn't taken place yet.....

Steve keans flight got cancelled.

He's on a plane over there as we speak lol

The last two sentences contradict each other. His flight got cancelled but he's on a plane?

[92er]

The last two sentences contradict each other. His flight got cancelled but he's on a plane?

I think he was talking about an earlier flight that was cancelled.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

He allegedly unhappy that the players that he wants have not been signed, and that promises were made re transfer budgets and have not been kept.

Fair play to him if that's the case. However, if indeed he's had a discussion (video conference) and remains unhappy enough to fly out to see them face to face - would it not idicate that he's still not getting any money or players?

[BangkokRover]

Kamy, has Jensen gone to India with Kean?

No

[BangkokRover]

By positive I meant that this is the first time that they have acknowledged these kind of problems, hopefully the next step is to solve these problems. This is not to say that things are fine, because they are not. Venky's have created a mountain of problems that they need to solve quickly because the club is in a state of limbo/meltdown. However the situation can still be retrieved if they act fast.

1:) Appointing a Chairperson that has clout(with in Rovers) would solve a lot, also Venkys STFU would help. We don't want to hear 3 different messages from you. Appoint one of yourselves to talk to the media if they want. So we get a consistent message from you and the club. The Chairperson would then travel to India and leave the manager at Brockhall with the players where he should be.

2:) Stop talking about building an academy in Pune, build it, we are not going to see anything it from it in a few years. So the sooner its started the better. Have quality coaches in Pune, look what is being done in Aspire

3:) Come to games does not have to be every game just the majority of the games at Ewood will help. Currently we as fans think of you as Chicken Overlords from India, show us you care about Rovers and enjoy coming to Ewood.

4:) Outline you plans for Rovers simply in bullet points, so fans can see where we are going. Keep us up to date as you can.

5:) Talk to the fans direct, via this site, via rovers.co.uk and The LET. Understand most of us are very worried at the moment.

6:) Come out and say you are not sponsoring the shirts.

7:) Welcome the BRST and interact with them.

8:) We know that we are not going to win the league overnight but with skill and luck we can get to cup finals and qualify for Europe. Qualifying for Europe would be a massive thing for Rovers and make getting better players easier.

[Paul]

Saved me a lot of typing there Bangkok, good post.

[Athlete]

1:) Appointing a Chairperson that has clout(with in Rovers) would solve a lot, also Venkys STFU would help. We don't want to hear 3 different messages from you. Appoint one of yourselves to talk to the media if they want. So we get a consistent message from you and the club. The Chairperson would then travel to India and leave the manager at Brockhall with the players where he should be.

2:) Stop talking about building an academy in Pune, build it, we are not going to see anything it from it in a few years. So the sooner its started the better. Have quality coaches in Pune, look what is being done in Aspire

3:) Come to games does not have to be every game just the majority of the games at Ewood will help. Currently we as fans think of you as Chicken Overlords from India, show us you care about Rovers and enjoy coming to Ewood.

4:) Outline you plans for Rovers simply in bullet points, so fans can see where we are going. Keep us up to date as you can.

5:) Talk to the fans direct, via this site, via rovers.co.uk and The LET. Understand most of us are very worried at the moment.

6:) Come out and say you are not sponsoring the shirts.

7:) Welcome the BRST and interact with them.

8:) We know that we are not going to win the league overnight but with skill and luck we can get to cup finals and qualify for Europe. Qualifying for Europe would be a massive thing for Rovers and make getting better players easier.

point 3..they dont care about Rovers they are business people

point 4..Do Venkys actually know what there plans for Rovers are ??

[Paul]

Have been told that the topic of selling Rovers is now closed. Venky's are going to push forward with their plans for the club.

There is now a recognition that decision making is taking far to long and that is an area that is going to be looked at ASAP, they also realise that the vision that they had about Kentaro helping to run the club has not worked.

The meeting between Kean and the owners from what I hear was a very Frank exchange of views, no idea what this means re Kean's future, but don't think he will be sacked.

Maybe the recognition that there are problems will now mean that these issues will be addressed, and Kean being very frank with the owners will result in some clarity re transfer funds.

I can't reveal all that I have been told bur for the first time in a long time I feel more positive and there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

I see you got a gold star for this one - well done as your work on our behalf most certainly deserves one.

What concerns me is the "light at the end of the tunnel" bit. Personally I've reached the point where i don't believe a single word uttered by Kean or the Raos. Each may be very good in their own field BUT the public perception created by their actions, which is the only reliable information we, and crucially the football industry, have available to judge them is appalling.

As supporters we feel it crucial Venky's take note of and understand our feeling, hopes and aspirations. This is what I want, it is what every supporter hopes for, we are though, sadly, almost irrelevant. Sure it makes for good newspaper headlines when supporters are "unhappy" about something, supporter unrest sells papers but that is as far as our relevance goes these days.

To my mind the way Rovers, or I should say Kean and the Raos, are perceived in the football industry is crucial. Supplier or customer confidence within an industry is the key to success. In my business we judge suppliers on the quality of their goods and ability to provide a service, as sellers ourselves we make judgements on a customer's ability to pay; is this a company we can trust and wish to trade with? For me if 50% of the rumour or stories on the web or in the media are true, and I know of one very damaging story, possibly the worst, which has still to break, Rovers are in a very tough place in the football industry. Who would wish to trade with our club?

Ultimately everything comes down to trust and reputation. Our club enjoyed a great reputation and employed a trusted and respected management team. These people have left and while the Raos may well be entirely trustworthy their actions to date raise questions as to their likely behaviour in any given situation. I would argue only those now desperate to "do business" would be looking to trade with Blackburn Rovers. In my view any serious attempt to trade with the club is more than likely to end in no deal, meaning those we want to buy from are unlikely to be even interested in starting the conversation.

Lets ask a question. Mr Football Agent is looking for a new club for his client Carlos Kickaballs, three clubs, including Rovers, have expressed interest, all offer the same money. Is the agent and player going to want to talk to Blackburn Rovers? I think not.

Whatever we as fans desire the most important task which faces the Raos is to re-build the club's reputation and to BUILD their own as they have none in the UK. The club's ownership must be viewed taken seriously, without this we will not progress and there can be no light at the end of the tunnel.

My other question would concern Paul Hunt. I may be wrong but I understand him to be the senior manager at Ewood, he is the person leading the club in the UK? Why then do we hear nothing from this man? Why has he not made any attempt to demonstrate publically he is taking the reins and wants to gain control of the club and it's general direction? Why has he not even been introduced to the fans officially? If this man is good enough to replace John Williams why does he appear to hide in the background when our ship is rudderless?

There is far more to fixing Rovers than a few signings, though I agree results on the pitch will always be the single most important aspect at any club. There is trust to be built in every direction and the Raos have not even begun to lay the foundations.

Light at the end of the tunnel? If there is it must be a very dim flicker.

[hawkiiz]

My other question would concern Paul Hunt. I may be wrong but I understand him to be the senior manager at Ewood, he is the person leading the club in the UK? Why then do we hear nothing from this man? Why has he not made any attempt to demonstrate publically he is taking the reins and wants to gain control of the club and it's general direction? Why has he not even been introduced to the fans officially? If this man is good enough to replace John Williams why does he appear to hide in the background when our ship is rudderless?

There is far more to fixing Rovers than a few signings, though I agree results on the pitch will always be the single most important aspect at any club. There is trust to be built in every direction and the Raos have not even begun to lay the foundations.

Light at the end of the tunnel? If there is it must be a very dim flicker.

Very good post I must say!

Not sure if I agree Rovers are THAT out of favour for most footballers, but that's my opinion, and who cares... I don't know the facts.

Mr. Hunt though, did meet up for the Fans Forum thing, and I think he has been the one "signing" the club statements lately, so to say he is hiding would be a litt bit of a strech I think. Anyway. the problem is not what Mr. Hunt does. It's what The Rao Gang is doing. God knows what that is...

[PAFELL]

I see you got a gold star for this one - well done as your work on our behalf most certainly deserves one.

What concerns me is the "light at the end of the tunnel" bit. Personally I've reached the point where i don't believe a single word uttered by Kean or the Raos. Each may be very good in their own field BUT the public perception created by their actions, which is the only reliable information we, and crucially the football industry, have available to judge them is appalling.

As supporters we feel it crucial Venky's take note of and understand our feeling, hopes and aspirations. This is what I want, it is what every supporter hopes for, we are though, sadly, almost irrelevant. Sure it makes for good newspaper headlines when supporters are "unhappy" about something, supporter unrest sells papers but that is as far as our relevance goes these days.

To my mind the way Rovers, or I should say Kean and the Raos, are perceived in the football industry is crucial. Supplier or customer confidence within an industry is the key to success. In my business we judge suppliers on the quality of their goods and ability to provide a service, as sellers ourselves we make judgements on a customer's ability to pay; is this a company we can trust and wish to trade with? For me if 50% of the rumour or stories on the web or in the media are true, and I know of one very damaging story, possibly the worst, which has still to break, Rovers are in a very tough place in the football industry. Who would wish to trade with our club?

Ultimately everything comes down to trust and reputation. Our club enjoyed a great reputation and employed a trusted and respected management team. These people have left and while the Raos may well be entirely trustworthy their actions to date raise questions as to their likely behaviour in any given situation. I would argue only those now desperate to "do business" would be looking to trade with Blackburn Rovers. In my view any serious attempt to trade with the club is more than likely to end in no deal, meaning those we want to buy from are unlikely to be even interested in starting the conversation.

Lets ask a question. Mr Football Agent is looking for a new club for his client Carlos Kickaballs, three clubs, including Rovers, have expressed interest, all offer the same money. Is the agent and player going to want to talk to Blackburn Rovers? I think not.

Whatever we as fans desire the most important task which faces the Raos is to re-build the club's reputation and to BUILD their own as they have none in the UK. The club's ownership must be viewed taken seriously, without this we will not progress and there can be no light at the end of the tunnel.

My other question would concern Paul Hunt. I may be wrong but I understand him to be the senior manager at Ewood, he is the person leading the club in the UK? Why then do we hear nothing from this man? Why has he not made any attempt to demonstrate publically he is taking the reins and wants to gain control of the club and it's general direction? Why has he not even been introduced to the fans officially? If this man is good enough to replace John Williams why does he appear to hide in the background when our ship is rudderless?

There is far more to fixing Rovers than a few signings, though I agree results on the pitch will always be the single most important aspect at any club. There is trust to be built in every direction and the Raos have not even begun to lay the foundations.

Light at the end of the tunnel? If there is it must be a very dim flicker.

Very good post. Supporters need confidence that those who own the club are competent to do so. I have yet to witness any competence.

Venkys need to understand that supporters are not employees, but customers. They may in their other businesses keep things from employees - so be it. But the football supporters is a different customer than for any other 'customer focused' business. This is something I believe Venkys have yet to realise.

The competition in the football business is a lot more fierce than in a lot of other businesses - again I think they have yet to grasp that. You expect teething problems when taking on a new project - maybe getting rid of Kentario is the best move they have made so far. But now they need to get proper football people in. The ball is in Venkys court.

[philipl]

Some good posts but there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Just more branches off going ever deeper and darker.

[ABBEY]

Light at the end of the tunnel? Think venkys tunnel is leading to oblivion.

[BangkokRover]

Hi Paul,

Nice post and you are right we are all worried. There is also no quick fix for this, if we were to sign Messi I am sure someone would find something to moan about. Why is Messi going to listen to Kean the Klown, how many times is Messi going to have to set up Roberts before he score etc etc.

Now I have no clue what is going on at Rovers apart from what I read in the press and what is posted on here. But personally I have had enough of negative thinking 247 about Rovers. Paul Hunt is not the Chairman he is Deputy Chief Executive, from the Rovers website that seems to make him the highest ranking person in Ewood. But a user on here posted a reply from him and it was immediately shot down. Why is there not more info etc etc. So its one of those dammed if you do and dammed if you don't moments.

Reputation you are 100% spot on here even if the rumors are complete rubbish mud sticks. Again I think this will take time to fix and can only be fixed by appointing the correct staff and then the long processe of building bridges starts. John Willimas was an excellent Chairman and will be difficult to replace but not impossible. Of course I have no answer off the top of my head but most people can be replaced.

Again your note about agents is 100% correct how many times are Rovers going to say they want a player and back out, you can only cry wolf so often. With a the right Chairman and one single message coming from Ewood and time I think that can be fixed.

As you said signing will not fix all the ills at Ewood but the correct backroom staff and a few "quality" players will lift the fans and remove some of the doom and gloom.

I know lots of things are wrong and you know lots of things are wrong. But hopefully now the talk of selling Rovers is over it will mean we are moving on. A great chairman would calm a lot of people down but there is no point appointing the best Chairman in the world if people for Pune HQ are still going to be dipping their oars in.

Cheers

BKR

Some good posts but there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Just more branches off going ever deeper and darker.

Can you give us some more information as to why you think that philip or is the same issues that have not been fixed?

[John]

My other question would concern Paul Hunt. I may be wrong but I understand him to be the senior manager at Ewood, he is the person leading the club in the UK? Why then do we hear nothing from this man? Why has he not made any attempt to demonstrate publically he is taking the reins and wants to gain control of the club and it's general direction? Why has he not even been introduced to the fans officially? If this man is good enough to replace John Williams why does he appear to hide in the background when our ship is rudderless?

I regard Paul Hunt to be one of the few positives under the Venkys ownership – he is highly rated by many within the game plus has a good track record.

However whether the environment at the moment is suitable to let him fully do his job is debatable – there is too much power held in India and staff on the ground in the UK have little empowerment to make decisions without checking with India first. This leads to slow decision making and also confusion as the lack of understanding on certain matters (not just football related) further prolongs things.

[Kelbo]

I see you got a gold star for this one - well done as your work on our behalf most certainly deserves one.

What concerns me is the "light at the end of the tunnel" bit. Personally I've reached the point where i don't believe a single word uttered by Kean or the Raos. Each may be very good in their own field BUT the public perception created by their actions, which is the only reliable information we, and crucially the football industry, have available to judge them is appalling.

As supporters we feel it crucial Venky's take note of and understand our feeling, hopes and aspirations. This is what I want, it is what every supporter hopes for, we are though, sadly, almost irrelevant. Sure it makes for good newspaper headlines when supporters are "unhappy" about something, supporter unrest sells papers but that is as far as our relevance goes these days.

To my mind the way Rovers, or I should say Kean and the Raos, are perceived in the football industry is crucial. Supplier or customer confidence within an industry is the key to success. In my business we judge suppliers on the quality of their goods and ability to provide a service, as sellers ourselves we make judgements on a customer's ability to pay; is this a company we can trust and wish to trade with? For me if 50% of the rumour or stories on the web or in the media are true, and I know of one very damaging story, possibly the worst, which has still to break, Rovers are in a very tough place in the football industry. Who would wish to trade with our club?

Ultimately everything comes down to trust and reputation. Our club enjoyed a great reputation and employed a trusted and respected management team. These people have left and while the Raos may well be entirely trustworthy their actions to date raise questions as to their likely behaviour in any given situation. I would argue only those now desperate to "do business" would be looking to trade with Blackburn Rovers. In my view any serious attempt to trade with the club is more than likely to end in no deal, meaning those we want to buy from are unlikely to be even interested in starting the conversation.

Lets ask a question. Mr Football Agent is looking for a new club for his client Carlos Kickaballs, three clubs, including Rovers, have expressed interest, all offer the same money. Is the agent and player going to want to talk to Blackburn Rovers? I think not.

Whatever we as fans desire the most important task which faces the Raos is to re-build the club's reputation and to BUILD their own as they have none in the UK. The club's ownership must be viewed taken seriously, without this we will not progress and there can be no light at the end of the tunnel.

My other question would concern Paul Hunt. I may be wrong but I understand him to be the senior manager at Ewood, he is the person leading the club in the UK? Why then do we hear nothing from this man? Why has he not made any attempt to demonstrate publically he is taking the reins and wants to gain control of the club and it's general direction? Why has he not even been introduced to the fans officially? If this man is good enough to replace John Williams why does he appear to hide in the background when our ship is rudderless?

There is far more to fixing Rovers than a few signings, though I agree results on the pitch will always be the single most important aspect at any club. There is trust to be built in every direction and the Raos have not even begun to lay the foundations.

Light at the end of the tunnel? If there is it must be a very dim flicker.

Great post, maybe this is the one to send to our deluded owners who are probably on their way to the moon now to stock up on green cheese!! They really have no idea about football and seem totally oblivious to the fact that we are at a crucial time with regards to transfers etc and yet we dont seem to know our transfer budget, let alone targets, couple that with arguably the worst manager in the Premiership and we are really in the proverbial!

[A cup of beans]

Yup know that the flight got cancelled, think that he left at 6pm tonight. There was a meeting earlier today via conference call earlier today, which involved a number of people at Ewood. Kean has still gone out to discuss things further on a face to face basis as he is not a entirely happy with the situation.

anything particular he's not happy with ?

another thing why have a tele conference if he's going out anyway ? that bit confuses me!

i can see a phone call.. yes.. but a conference ??