[Archived] Rumour: Venky's To Sell?

[AggyBlue]

I presume you mean Venkeys by that comment?

A buyer would have to pay a fortune to put right what these idiots have done!

No, If Venky's sold out and didn't care who to, we could be in deep deep shyte

[bob fleming]

No, If Venky's sold out and didn't care who to, we could be in deep deep shyte

Are you saying they care now?

[Black Burn]

Black Burn,

No one is saying you are not welcome here at all, I just totally disagree with your comments, Venkeys havent earned the right of either respect nor the opportunity of trying to right their wrongs, indeed, I feel they will make matters worse, they really are an incapable bunch with regards to football and the only respect they could get is by putting proper people in charge of the club, let them run it in the correct manner, re gain respect from the football world and keep themselves out of it!

That is their only chance, for Mrs D or one of the chuckle brothers to be involved would just make matters worse!

No, that was a response to Preston Blue's comment where he told me to stick my head in a chicken's bum, so don't worry about that.

I think I'll make myself clear about my comments and stance so that you guys can see I'm not disagreeing with anyone but agreeing with everyone.

Venkys have made mistakes. I'm not denying that.

They have not brought in any transfers yet, so I can't defend them on that point either.

According to nicko and various sources, the club is in a mess. I will not argue against that.

I am not defending Venkys or justifying their actions. Until they can prove themselves and take approrpriate actions, such as buying Honda Keisuke or talented players, there is no way I can defend them at all. Actions speak louder than words, and they haven't carried out any actions for me to defend them. So I will not argue with anyone over how incompetent/useless/whatever Venkys are.

I am suggesting that if we want to save our club, we have to do something more than just kick out Venkys, or at least spur them into action. The latter of which most people will object to, so what other options are there? That's what I'm getting at. Do we boycott their products? Sit outside their office? Contact the potential buyers ourselves?

If you guys want to kick out Venkys, you also have to plan for what comes after that. The kicking out is just the beginning, like gumboots said. No point kicking out the Venkys only to end up far worse off than we are (though some people might question if we could possibly get any worse).

[AggyBlue]

Are you saying they care now?

Not at all

We're just a commodity that's useful for PR

[philipl]

I am not defending Venkys or justifying their actions. Until they can prove themselves

Venky's have proved themselves.

Over eight months they have completely wrecked our club through naivete, arrogance and incompetence.

They are completely useless at running a Premier League club in Blackburn they are so monumentally disinterested in they cannot be bothered to even do the most basic first hand research.

[thenodrog]

LET saying Kean in Pune yesterday, alledgedlly he was in the bar at the Manchester Airport Hilton. Its difficult to trust any 'sources' at the minute.

I trust he isn't flying the plane!

btw pics in the LT on Wed looks like he is hitting the bottle a little too much! Either that or managing BRFC is one hell opf a strain. He looks to have aged about 10 years in 6 months. Maybe his weight is like Pinnochio's nose which increases the more lioes he tells.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/9148440.Blackburn_Rovers_boss__I___ve_got_money_to_spend_on_transfers/?ref=mc

[broadsword]

Fine. It seems that I am not welcome here unless I say something like "Venkys are incompetent idiots".

The overwhelming sentiment on these forums is anger. Anger at the Trust for selling at the first chance they had, and to incompetent buffoons, anger at Venky's for having the arrogance to nbelieve they could run the operation without proper research or effort or anything like a considered approach, which is strongly indicative of a lack of respect.

Now, I have no problem with you posting on here, you seem like a decent sort. But please be aware that your comments may not get the best reception given the absolute train crash that is unfolding before our very eyes.

No joking, we really are at this minute in a very steep dive, and it will take an experienced pair of hands to pull us out.

I'm just so so so angry about it all. My football club's been treated like a piece of ######, to be quite honest.

[Black Burn]

The overwhelming sentiment on these forums is anger. Anger at the Trust for selling at the first chance they had, and to incompetent buffoons, anger at Venky's for having the arrogance to nbelieve they could run the operation without proper research or effort or anything like a considered approach, which is strongly indicative of a lack of respect.

Now, I have no problem with you posting on here, you seem like a decent sort. But please be aware that your comments may not get the best reception given the absolute train crash that is unfolding before our very eyes.

No joking, we really are at this minute in a very steep dive, and it will take an experienced pair of hands to pull us out.

I'm just so so so angry about it all. My football club's been treated like a piece of ######, to be quite honest.

I am critical of the Venkys as well.

But I don't want to insult anybody, so I try to be as subtle about it as possible.

Do you know who would be a prime example to pull us out of this mess? Experience is indeed valuable, but it might not be enough.

Venky's have proved themselves.

Over eight months they have completely wrecked our club through naivete, arrogance and incompetence.

They are completely useless at running a Premier League club in Blackburn they are so monumentally disinterested in they cannot be bothered to even do the most basic first hand research.

Come on, don't quote part of my sentence, you're quoting me out of context...

Not you specifically, but I suspect this is why some people have misunderstood me as pro-Venkys. They read parts of my stuff that stand out and skim over the rest.

I have to admit I am partly at fault here for writing too many words. Have to learn to be more succinct and concise.

[beerwins]

Here's a thought (not a conspiracy theory though!).

If you were a Burnley fan and tried to destroy Rovers, would you have done things that differently to what Venky's have done so far?

Only one thing different, It probably could have been done faster.

At the first sign of bad results Venky's will sack Kean and in all their arrogance expect another manager to waltz straight in with the current squad minus four players from last year and keep us up, I fear while they are our owners we will never be safe and as things stand I think going down is certain.

Then what?

At least on a much brighter note my dog seems to have got over the stage where he feels the need the hump every moving thing in sight, my five year old daughter is eternally grateful for that, but the cushions may well feel a bit neglected.

[broadsword]

I am critical of the Venkys as well.

But I don't want to insult anybody, so I try to be as subtle about it as possible.

Do you know who would be a prime example to pull us out of this mess? Experience is indeed valuable, but it might not be enough.

I'm not sure it matters if people insult the venky's, does it make any difference?

You don't just need a manager, you need a chief exec and you need money for transfers.

You don't gut a space shuttle then send it on a missions.

Can't think of a manager I'd go for right now. We need an experienced pair of hands.

[Black Burn]

I'm not sure it matters if people insult the venky's, does it make any difference?

You don't just need a manager, you need a chief exec and you need money for transfers.

You don't gut a space shuttle then send it on a missions.

Can't think of a manager I'd go for right now. We need an experienced pair of hands.

No, it's just that it sounds like people are labeling me Venkys PR because I am not insulting the Venkys (hope this isn't true).

I would go for Mark Hughes, but will even he be able to pull us out of this mess? Of course we are operating on the assumption the managers in question will join us.

As for chief executive there was never anybody better than John Williams. Who will be able to replace him? I have absolutely no idea, but I hope you do.

[Majiball]

Venky's have proved themselves.

Over eight months they have completely wrecked our club through naivete, arrogance and incompetence.

They are completely useless at running a Premier League club in Blackburn they are so monumentally disinterested in they cannot be bowthered to even do the most basic first hand research.

+100, if one wants to try something new, one had best learn what they are doing!

[Parsonblue]

I will not deny that.

But if you really know who the potential buyers are, now is the time to start writing to them and persuading them that buying Rovers will be a profitable venture (or whatever reason you can think of) rather than just hold signboards in Ewood Park screaming "Venkys out!"

As for ma'am Gumboots, I agree with you, but I think the first step should be securing a buyer before kicking the Venkys out, or at least have Venkys replacement ready before you oust them. Otherwise the club isn't going to run without an owner. It's not like kicking out a manager. You actually need owners and their funds to run the club.

The alternative would be to give Venkys the chance to repair their mistakes, but I understand that most people here are not too fond of that option. Like you said, most fans have lost confidence in their ability to do that.

However, drastic action is needed more than talking. We can chant "Venkys out" all day but that doesn't make us any different from Venkys who promise us signings and to date haven't delivered.

The problem with giving the Rao family the opportunity to repair their mistakes is that they don't appear to have a clue what they are doing. You say we need owners and their funds to run the club. So far Venkys seem somewhat reluctant to fund the club full-stop. The family have become a national laughing stock in this country, something which I appreciate you may not fully realise being based where you are. I'm sure that when Mrs. Desai bought the club it was not her intention to become, along with her brothers, a figure of fun in the British media. However, that is were Venkys stand at the moment. If they were hoping to market the company in this part of the world I suspect they would struggle. People associate Venkys with an amateurish attempt at running a professional football club. Quite how they get themselves out of this situation I'm not quite sure. Ultimately, they are going to have to spend money to rebuild the squad or relegation is a nailed on certainty. Unfortunately, with just three weeks to go to the start of the season, there is little evidence that they have the will or the capital to do what is needed.

[broadsword]

The problem with giving the Rao family the opportunity to repair their mistakes is that they don't appear to have a clue what they are doing. You say we need owners and their funds to run the club. So far Venkys seem somewhat reluctant to fund the club full-stop. The family have become a national laughing stock in this country,

"Chicken nuggets", indeed.

[Plastic Head]

Venky's have proved themselves.

Over eight months they have completely wrecked our club through naivete, arrogance and incompetence.

They are completely useless at running a Premier League club in Blackburn they are so monumentally disinterested in they cannot be bothered to even do the most basic first hand research.

I agree, whatever "insiders" and "confidents" may or may not know:

If it barks and sh!ts on the pavement it's probably a dog.

[glen9mullan]

I agree, whatever "insiders" and "confidents" may or may not know:

If it barks and sh!ts on the pavement it's probably a dog.

Tickled me that, "Love that quote"

[booth]

As for ma'am Gumboots, I agree with you, but I think the first step should be securing a buyer before kicking the Venkys out, or at least have Venkys replacement ready before you oust them. Otherwise the club isn't going to run without an owner. It's not like kicking out a manager. You actually need owners and their funds to run the club.

Eh? Who is going to kick them out? They own the club, it's entirely up to them whether they leave or not and it doesn't matter how much we complain and protest. You do understand that?

[Henwah]

Anyone with any sense has given up trying to follow the tales coming out at the moment "sources" or otherwise.

We are left with either optimism or pessimism or some shade in between. Personally my belief will remain so until the start of the season - that is the point when people should be signed by (in my opinion of what serious owners should be doing), if at that point we have not signed anyone worthwhile I will happily join the anti-Venkys.

I just feel some of the current feeling is premature (optimism).

Yes I know it only gives us a couple of weeks to push change, but that's where the weight of the non-forum reading support is at - 90% are probably oblivious to the 3-5 varying dimensions of 'truth' we are getting from our collective 'sources', they wont follow you on the back of a few people's rumours

[Glenn]

For those convinced Black Burn is a Venky's PR agent. There is a document online detailing the last 5+ years of his life, he's chosen not to make it public which is a fair call, he'd rather take abuse from you lot for his current views than have you pick through his formative years.

If you care that much, it's not a hard document to find, all you need is google, common sense, patience and publicly available information. It's shocking so many "in the know" people can't do basic online investigation. It just shows you're riding on the backs of other people's hard work.

[Black Burn]

Eh? Who is going to kick them out? They own the club, it's entirely up to them whether they leave or not and it doesn't matter how much we complain and protest. You do understand that?

Wasn't that how Liverpool fans kicked out the American duo, or was I wrong?

[sentient]

For those convinced Black Burn is a Venky's PR agent. There is a document online detailing the last 5+ years of his life, he's chosen not to make it public which is a fair call, he'd rather take abuse from you lot for his current views than have you pick through his formative years.

If you care that much, it's not a hard document to find, all you need is google, common sense, patience and publicly available information. It's shocking so many "in the know" people can't do basic online investigation.

Yes, I agree. Maybe its strange that she sudddenly appears .... from Japan! Loving ur stuff BB! Anyway what u think about next season - what position do you (venkys) think we might finish?

[BangkokRover]

Yes, I agree. Maybe its strange that she sudddenly appears .... from Japan! Loving ur stuff BB! Anyway what u think about next season - what position do you (venkys) think we might finish?

There is already a thread about that.

[Paul]

I was responding to gumboots's statement that most people would not want the Venkys to stay around to fix their mistakes.

Venkys =/= chicken. So you can continue to enjoy it.

I am a Rovers fan like you. I just have a different opinion.

And I'm not lecturing anybody. I'm just pointing out that people tend to forget that throwing out Venkys will not solve all the problems at hand and we have to be prepared to find another solution.

Good imitation? Have I been defending Venkys? No.

Funny how I am required to bash Venkys before people can finally accept that I am not making Venkys PR statements. Even funnier nobody has taken noticed the underlying criticism I have admitted in my posts and eveyone still think I'm still pro-Venkys.

Black Burn I apologise if my response is one of those that makes you feel unwelcome on here. That would never be my intention.

I would ask you grasp one thing, it is not realistic for the fans to "find another solution" - I presume by "we" you mean the fans. I think you will find plenty of fans who want to see Venky's leave and who might demonstrate chanting "Venky's out." Unfortunately the supporters can only express their feelings, talk of finding alternative owners is unrealistic and is what makes me question your view. We all understand Venky's will only leave when they wish to - however this should not dissuade fans from expressing their anger and disappointment at the actions of our current owners.

The likelihood of any serious demonstration against Venky's is slim in my view. A very low crowd and heavy defeat to Wolves might stimulate something but I have my doubts.

[BangkokRover]

The likelihood of any serious demonstration against Venky's is slim in my view. A very low crowd and heavy defeat to Wolves might stimulate something but I have my doubts.

After the longest winless run in Rovers History with no protest I am not sure the Rovers faithful have the stomach for long protest

[Mattyblue]

Results dear boy, results.

We beat Wolves and everyone trots off into the Summer evening. Only bad home defeats will mobilise the crowd.