[Archived] Rumour: Venky's To Sell?

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

The feeling in the game for the past few years is that you wouldn't make money out of Rovers. Many looked, all but one walked away.

So nobody is likely to buy the club now, especially so soon after someone paid what they did for it.

It's not a case of laughing at the club. It's a case of laughing at the diea you could find TWO buyers in under a year.

Venkys should think of that too IF they are considering selling.

Instead they should get on with sorting their act out.

Nicko - there have been a few posters on here that have claimed Venky's have had genuine interest in the club - lots of rumours of potentially "exciting" new owners etc. Did they ever PM you the names they had for checking ?

Also - could it be that they are, as somebody else speculated, looking for outside investors to share the risk - and I suppose the publicity exposure from co-owning a premiership club ?

[promoted2001]

There's a lot of over reacting going on here! Until I see proof I do not think they are looking to sell. I do think they need to have a restructure and run the club from Britain, not India.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Also - could it be that they are, as somebody else speculated, looking for outside investors to share the risk - and I suppose the publicity exposure from co-owning a premiership club ?

Could it be that they did have somebody lined up to take co-ownership but now that has fell through leaving them up shyte st without a paddle?

i.e.

That speculative 50 million to spend now stands at 5 million and they are about to look very silly indeed.

[ABBEY]

I am not pro-Venkys. I am pro-Blackburn.

rovers fans will be pro -rovers not pro blackburn!!!

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

The feeling in the game for the past few years is that you wouldn't make money out of Rovers. Many looked, all but one walked away.

So nobody is likely to buy the club now, especially so soon after someone paid what they did for it.

The daft thing is, Venkys initially seemed to have an idea that 'might' have given them some excellent exposure and increased the value of the commodity 'BRFC' over a 5 year period ie bring in young 'top talent', develop it and move it on at a large profit. Reinvest some in new talent- ad infinitum. In 5 years time the majority of the first team squad woud be a lot younger and potentialy worth 3-4 times the value of the existing squad.

If this group of players also got anywhere near the top 6 or a cup win then the Venkys would be getting continual positive global exposure. Should they ever make the coveted champions league, then that shoud signal Venkys exit strategy. Look to sell a 'Champions league club' with a talented squad and successful business model, not to mention increased fan base etc along the way. They could then realise 3 to 4 times what they paid for the club and at the very least break even.

What they have possibly neglected in all this was on top of the cost of the club, it will realistically cost them £50 million plus in transfer fees to kick start the idea. Which it would seem they don't have.....

The top European clubs don't need to use this model. The likes of Ajax, Porto and to some extent Valencia have for a long time and have been pretty successful. No English club has achieved it to date (granted we are hamstrung by work permit rules) but with the right approach, it could be done.

[RoverInverness]

PHEW - I've been away for a few days, just driven 320 miles, sat down with my pot noodle and a brew and then 14 pages of this!!!!!!

Whilst I appreciate Nicko's scepticism at the possibility of Venkys finding a buyer, Kamy and BPF and others appeared to be suggesting that Venkys were actually talking to someone. Of course, it is possible Venkys are talking to "someone" but as we all know, with Venky's form, that is probably a million miles from being a "someone" who is a serious potential buyer of a football club. Has anyone checked to see if they have put the club on ebay yet?

Anyway, maybe somebody could help me by just clarifying a few things for me.

1) Could the Phil Jones money be used to clear the debt, making us a rather cheap proposition?

2) Any chance Dave Whelan could be interested? I'm sure Nicko must have his number, maybe you could talk to him for us? Please could somebody shoot down this pipe dream for me now IF there is no chance of it happening.

Thanks.

[jim mk2]

The feeling in the game for the past few years is that you wouldn't make money out of Rovers. Many looked, all but one walked away.

Are you going to write the story in the Mirror ?

And if not, why not ?

[JAL]

Just how much money has Anderson and Kentaro/ SEM made out of the club in seven short months, if Rovers are supposedly a club that you cant make money out of ?

[jim mk2]

Be careful what you wish for Paul, sometimes it’s better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.

If Venkys gave up on the club now that would probably put a stop to transfer dealings, and we’d likely head for relegation.

We don't know this devil and never have done, because they have never deigned to talk to supporters.

When did the transfer dealings start in this window ?

[Amo]

There's a lot of over reacting going on here! Until I see proof I do not think they are looking to sell. I do think they need to have a restructure and run the club from Britain, not India.

I think a lot of it's a big dollop of wishful thinking.

[JoeBlueWhite]

Are you going to write the story in the Mirror ?

And if not, why not ?

lmao I agree with Jim .

Why would you not report this Nicko ?

You seem to be suggesting you could wreck Blackburn Rovers in the papers....

[RovertheHill]

Just how much money has Anderson and Kentaro/ SEM made out of the club in seven short months, if Rovers are supposedly a club that you cant make money out of ?

I'm guessing you are deliberately missing the point? The only people who make money out of football clubs are players and agents. A year ago, were you one of the people cheering at the thought of a billionaire buying us?

[Grabbi Graeme]

lmao I agree with Jim .

Why would you not report this Nicko ?

You seem to be suggesting you could wreck Blackburn Rovers in the papers....

If it was happening to the top 4 or 5 clubs then the media as a whole would of been over it, but Blackburn Rovers is not an interest to most people outside of the town.

We know that these boards are viewed by many people in the media, so maybe the story will crop up somewhere, and if it does it wont be back page news, but if it does make into the papers or on SSN maybe Venkys will then react and put out a statement.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Exactly. And the problem with this is that if everyone in football knows that you won't make money from a football club, only idiots or people who don't know anything about football are likely to buy football clubs.

Agreed. Which makes me question the oft-held assertion on here that the problem is that Venky's don't know how to run a football club when the people who apparently DO know how to run them all manage to run up obscene debts despite income from television going through the roof.

Income has been going up double digit for years now thanks ENTIRELY to the monopoly set-up of the PL - nothing to do with the alleged expertise of those running the clubs - and yet almost every club is worse off than before, including ourselves.

And apparently all our problems are due to Venkys

[promoted2001]

Are you going to write the story in the Mirror ?

And if not, why not ?

There's nothing to report at the moment!

[jim mk2]

If it was happening to the top 4 or 5 clubs then the media as a whole would of been over it, but Blackburn Rovers is not an interest to most people outside of the town.

Venky's selling up after 6 months would make the back pages of most of the nationals - believe me.

I would like to know from Mr Nixon if he thinks the story has mileage why he hasn't written it yet.

[promoted2001]

Venky's selling up after 6 months would make the back pages of most of the nationals - believe me.

I would like to know from Mr Nixon if he thinks the story has mileage why he hasn't written it yet.

Again, nothing to write about. There is just a rumour... No quotes, no soundbites. It would be made up of filler text and probably wouldn't get past the editor!

[Grabbi Graeme]

I'm assuming that the editor has the final say on stories anyway, so even if Nicko writes the story, it doesn't mean to say it will be in the paper, it's still just a rumour, if they come out and say they are selling then it would makes some colum inches somewhere.

[leerovers1980]

Again, nothing to write about. There is just a rumour... No quotes, no soundbites. It would be made up of filler text and probably wouldn't get past the editor!

isnt that what fills most of papers these days rumours and trash , how many storys do you think in a paper each day is actually true, they just write what they think we want to hear

[Taggart]

Again, nothing to write about. There is just a rumour... No quotes, no soundbites. It would be made up of filler text and probably wouldn't get past the editor!

Don`t believe this at all - all sound sliek smoke and mirrors to me, and mischief making.

We all know their aims at the end of the season, have heard nothing from the owners to contradict this, but only to empahise the intention to improve Rovers and the brand.

They are thinking of selling after 6 months, yeah right, like that wouldn`t hurt the Venkys image at all - just can`t see it I`m afraid, and think its tosh

[Exiled in Toronto]

I am surprised that people assume in these days of social media that hearing a rumour from more than one 'source' makes it more likely to be true.

Maybe they are considering their options but scoping is there a way out, wanting out and getting out are three entirely different things.

We had our house valued the other week, so we must be moving, right?

[JAL]

Venky's selling up after 6 months would make the back pages of most of the nationals - believe me.

I would like to know from Mr Nixon if he thinks the story has mileage why he hasn't written it yet.

Would have thought you'd need to know of an intended buyer who was in talks with Venkys before you could go ahead with such a story.

[promoted2001]

isnt that what fills most of papers these days rumours and trash , how many storys do you think in a paper each day is actually true, they just write what they think we want to hear

He doesn't work for the Daily Mail

[Henwah]

Agreed. Which makes me question the oft-held assertion on here that the problem is that Venky's don't know how to run a football club when the people who apparently DO know how to run them all manage to run up obscene debts despite income from television going through the roof.

Income has been going up double digit for years now thanks ENTIRELY to the monopoly set-up of the PL - nothing to do with the alleged expertise of those running the clubs - and yet almost every club is worse off than before, including ourselves.

And apparently all our problems are due to Venkys

Damn good point, not really sure there are many, if any truly skilful or 'good' owners, merely owners with larger amounts of money to throw away than ours.

The fact that they are reluctant to pay the fees expected for players and the baggage that comes with them, allied with their stance over the jones deal suggests they are better 'business' people than most premier league owners in many respects. That said, it doesn't help rovers much as moral 'points' won't keep us up next season

[broadsword]

Think it's time for one of those bollywood remakes