[Archived] Rumour: Venky's To Sell?

[super_arran]

Lets just sit on that hot air for now zaccaius theres a good chap

The guy I work with; his kid is in the academy and he's saying that he's heard of no coaches leaving/wanting to leave as of Tuesday night....

[john.leigh]

Well I'm gunna be brave and say that at this particular moment in time I think the message board will be a better place for not having Nicko around.

Given all the current uncertainty I think that his comments were just stirring up further unrest - sometimes it is just better for us not to know what is going on behind closed doors

Not everybody has a right to know everything that is going on - wheter it be at home, at work or at Ewood - some conversations just need to be kept behind closed doors.

Don't get me wrong I think Nicko has been invaluable to us in the past, but I was starting to get uncomfortable with some of the items he was coming put with - maybe the truth does hurt - but sometimes it's just better not to know.

I also hope he will be invaluable to us in the future - but I think he has done the wise thing at the momnet and made a tactical withdrawal. Maybe some others might now follow suit?

[waggy]

oh please pretty please let this rumour be true,and for christake let the buyers be british

[RovertheHill]

Well I'm gunna be brave and say that at this particular moment in time I think the message board will be a better place for not having Nicko around.

Given all the current uncertainty I think that his comments were just stirring up further unrest - sometimes it is just better for us not to know what is going on behind closed doors

I'm not sure you get the irony of this post in the thread you have posted it in?

I'm going to come out and say it. IMHO I think this thread is a massive mistake AT THIS STAGE, and it is the board who posted it, not Nicko.

I know Glenn and Kamy put a lot of effort into this place and they probably thought very long and hard about posting this, but I think they are wrong. For months now there have been unsubstantiated rumours of "terrible" things happening which have caused all sorts of sniping, stress and general unhappiness. This is the motherload. It's going to get some people wishing it to be true with no real grasp of the reality of the situation (like when we were sold first time around), and it's going to cause a lot of anxiety. I really think you guys should have waited until you had something more concrete or not bothered at all.

Back to the irony (and hypocrisy). If nicko had posted this he would undoubtedly have been hounded.

[otto man]

Theno wrote:

A preening peacock when right, a spiteful curmudgeon when wrong.

Pot Kettle Black?

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

oh please pretty please let this rumour be true,and for christake let the buyers be british

Couldn't give a monkeys on nationality - just let them be above board and true Rovers fans

[philipl]

Back to the rumour.

The rumour is there could have been an offer.

There are also by my latest count five other stories about(validated rumours) and not one of them is good for Venky's. Far more importantly and sadly, they are not good for Rovers either.

Please feel free to abuse me but not on the MB.

[otto man]

Validated rumour? Contradiction in terms?

[Kamy100]

As Glenn said earlier, the decision to post this rumour was taken after a great deal of deliberation.

Generally we do not put unsubstanciated stuff on the MB or run news stories, if a story is run then we always try and do after getting some sort of official confirmation, for example the Cisse interested in joining Rovers was run after talking to his spokesperson. There are many other sites who would publish every rumour that they get, but we try and be more responsible. My default position with anything that I hear is always that it is untrue until I can prove otherwise.

The decision to publish this rumour was taken because unlike most other stuff that we hear bits of what we have been told have checked out and crucially the information came from a reputable person. Some of the stuff that we have been told we haven't been able to verify. As Glenn said last night, often we get accused of sitting on stories, not sharing information and covering up stuff, yet we do try and be a bit more open with what we know then people are also unhappy.

I personally don't mind people criticising (as long as it is constructive) it is my decision to put myself out there as a news source and therefore it is only right that I accept any criticism. However, breaking news stories is a very difficult balancing act, we have to be sure what we are pubslishing is accurate but then also have to take into account that it is almost impossible to verify 100% what we are publishing, but I know the editiorial team on BRFCS always tries to act in the best interests of the club and would not intentionally do anything that would harm the club.

Back on topic what I can reveal is that IF the club is being sold then the buyers are not the Walker family or Saurin Shah.

[beerwins]

So does this mean they are not going to spend 50 million this summer then ?

No Luca Toni yet again

No surprise now to see the difference in quality of players linked.

Just like being back under the trust, without the stability of course.

[BangkokRover]

As Glenn said earlier, the decision to post this rumour was taken after a great deal of deliberation.

Generally we do not put unsubstanciated stuff on the MB or run news stories, if a story is run then we always try and do after getting some sort of official confirmation, for example the Cisse interested in joining Rovers was run after talking to his spokesperson. There are many other sites who would publish every rumour that they get, but we try and be more responsible. My default position with anything that I hear is always that it is untrue until I can prove otherwise.

The decision to publish this rumour was taken because unlike most other stuff that we hear bits of what we have been told have checked out and crucially the information came from a reputable person. Some of the stuff that we have been told we haven't been able to verify. As Glenn said last night, often we get accused of sitting on stories, not sharing information and covering up stuff, yet we do try and be a bit more open with what we know then people are also unhappy.

I personally don't mind people criticising (as long as it is constructive) it is my decision to put myself out there as a news source and therefore it is only right that I accept any criticism. However, breaking news stories is a very difficult balancing act, we have to be sure what we are pubslishing is accurate but then also have to take into account that it is almost impossible to verify 100% what we are publishing, but I know the editiorial team on BRFCS always tries to act in the best interests of the club and would not intentionally do anything that would harm the club.

Back on topic what I can reveal is that IF the club is being sold then the buyers are not the Walker family or Saurin Shah.

Sorry Kamy I have no idea why you are defending yourself. Everyone knows this is a rumor if they want proof that is their own problem.

[PAFELL]

Well I'm gunna be brave and say that at this particular moment in time I think the message board will be a better place for not having Nicko around.

Given all the current uncertainty I think that his comments were just stirring up further unrest - sometimes it is just better for us not to know what is going on behind closed doors

Not everybody has a right to know everything that is going on - wheter it be at home, at work or at Ewood - some conversations just need to be kept behind closed doors.

Don't get me wrong I think Nicko has been invaluable to us in the past, but I was starting to get uncomfortable with some of the items he was coming put with - maybe the truth does hurt - but sometimes it's just better not to know.

I also hope he will be invaluable to us in the future - but I think he has done the wise thing at the momnet and made a tactical withdrawal. Maybe some others might now follow suit?

But Nicko did not even start this thread - he didn't even bring up the subject until other did.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Keep up the good work guys in the face of unrelenting stupidity.

[rovers_rob]

As Glenn said earlier, the decision to post this rumour was taken after a great deal of deliberation.

Generally we do not put unsubstanciated stuff on the MB or run news stories, if a story is run then we always try and do after getting some sort of official confirmation, for example the Cisse interested in joining Rovers was run after talking to his spokesperson. There are many other sites who would publish every rumour that they get, but we try and be more responsible. My default position with anything that I hear is always that it is untrue until I can prove otherwise.

The decision to publish this rumour was taken because unlike most other stuff that we hear bits of what we have been told have checked out and crucially the information came from a reputable person. Some of the stuff that we have been told we haven't been able to verify. As Glenn said last night, often we get accused of sitting on stories, not sharing information and covering up stuff, yet we do try and be a bit more open with what we know then people are also unhappy.

I personally don't mind people criticising (as long as it is constructive) it is my decision to put myself out there as a news source and therefore it is only right that I accept any criticism. However, breaking news stories is a very difficult balancing act, we have to be sure what we are pubslishing is accurate but then also have to take into account that it is almost impossible to verify 100% what we are publishing, but I know the editiorial team on BRFCS always tries to act in the best interests of the club and would not intentionally do anything that would harm the club.

Back on topic what I can reveal is that IF the club is being sold then the buyers are not the Walker family or Saurin Shah.

I think there is a big difference between publishing a rumour about a player possibly joining and Venkys selling the club. The player rumours will not harm the club, it might build up hopes of some fans but ultimately I think they are fairly harmless.

This on the other hand is completely different.

IF there is someone interested in buying the club (and it seems like you and other people think it would be a good thing if we are sold) then making it public could harm the process.

IF what you have heard is incorrect then again, it is harming the club because speculation like this can also cause problems and unsettle fans and put extra pressure on the club that they don't need at the moment.

I like this messageboard, I respect what you and the mods etc.. do but this time I think you have got it wrong.

Sorry, I don't want to offend anyone but that is just my opinion.

[Andy]

Was there not a fans-fronted group in the running to bid for the club the last time around?

Wonder if they'd be interested in putting together a bid now...

[booth]

oh please pretty please let this rumour be true,and for christake let the buyers be british

I don't mind what nationality they are, as long as they are good for the club.

There are some good foreign football club owners, just as there are some very bad British ones.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Looks like you would have been better off not posting it Kamy as the thread had been invaded by a complete bunch of prats.

Some of you really need to take off those blue and white tinted specs. Rovers really aren't a club that you can make serious money from and whoever bought it would have to put money in knowing that. Those who took offense from comments which tell the honest and perhaps painful truth need to get real.

[Hughesy]

I hope they come out and say ‘NOT FOR SALE’ – it sounds like the very similar stuff that goes on with the Glazers and all the rumours

Nice of Waggy to throw the race card in and say 'Let it be British Owners'

[Gav]

Nice of Waggy to throw the race card in and say 'Let it be British Owners'

Thats a little unfair Hughesy, just because someone wants British owners doesn't make them racist.

I'd love British owners, if things are going wrong we can pop round to there house and let them know.

[Mattyblue]

Exactly RVR.

However, this board has been like this ever since the takeover. Anybody who has questioned some of the brainless decisons have been shouted down.

Sam gone-

'GOOD, they want a manager in to play proper football. get over it'

Kentaro/SEM in a pivotal role and leeching out millions in 'fees'-

'WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? They hace contacts, stop being so negative'.

Kean appointed-

'IT's ONLY TEMPORARY, wait till Jol takes over.'

Kean appointed full time-

'GIVE HIM A CHANCE, least we are playing football the right way'.

We don't win for 3 months-

'Whoa we didn't want Sam sacked, we said at the end of the season or when we had a PROPER replacement lined up, honest that's what I said at the time.

Kean wants Champions League (with a 5million a window budget)-

'Yeah, it's called ambition, who says we can't? Not like the Trust.

JW and TF depart-

'About time, ALL takeovers get rid of the existing senior management'.

And so on and so on, it has been a complete mess from day one and I have hated being 'negative' as up until this year I was one of THE most positive Roverites you could wish to meet. But sometimes, you just have to look at what is unfolding in front of you.

Hope yes, blind faith in people that obviously do not have a clue- NO.

[S15]

Thats a little unfair Hughesy, just because someone wants British owners doesn't make them racist.

No, but Waggy's thrown enough around over the years to let us know that he's a bit of a bigot.

[PAFELL]

I think there is a big difference between publishing a rumour about a player possibly joining and Venkys selling the club. The player rumours will not harm the club, it might build up hopes of some fans but ultimately I think they are fairly harmless.

This on the other hand is completely different.

IF there is someone interested in buying the club (and it seems like you and other people think it would be a good thing if we are sold) then making it public could harm the process.

IF what you have heard is incorrect then again, it is harming the club because speculation like this can also cause problems and unsettle fans and put extra pressure on the club that they don't need at the moment.

I like this messageboard, I respect what you and the mods etc.. do but this time I think you have got it wrong.

Sorry, I don't want to offend anyone but that is just my opinion.

Kamy and Glenn were between a rock and a hard place. If they didn't put out the rumour on here - somebody else could have done.

There was no right or wrong choice here. They said it is a rumour and repeated that it was a rumour. Others have since come on and said that they knew about the rumour sometime ago. I also can confirm that those others knew about the rumour sometime ago.

Even if the national media pick up the story and investigate further. No harm would have been done. The story would be either confirmed or denied. Therefore put to bed once and for all. If there are interested parties, then we would hear about them. If venkys do not want to sell, again we will hear about it. We should also bare in mind the syed, venkys and shah were not the only interested parties a year ago - there were others. Though it does appear that when the club was up for sale last time, they concentrated on India - why that was, in itself is a mystery.

Glenn and Kamy please keep up the good work, don't let people grind you down. You made a choice - right one in my view - stick with it.

[Taggart]

I think this topic should be locked, and only updated once some evidence or fact is established to back up this thread.

i.e when Kamy gets some more info, then post it on here, but lock the thread until then, i agree with some other posters, that the undertones of this are damaging, or have the potential to be.

[RovertheHill]

Keep up the good work guys in the face of unrelenting stupidity.

I'm going to assume that wasn't aimed at me.

Kamy, you don't need to defend yourself. You guys have a tough job and I understand you must have spent a lot of time deliberating over this. I just think you got the timing wrong on this one.

[rovers_rob]

Kamy and Glenn were between a rock and a hard place. If they didn't put out the rumour on here - somebody else could have done.

There was no right or wrong choice here. They said it is a rumour and repeated that it was a rumour. Others have since come on and said that they knew about the rumour sometime ago. I also can confirm that those others knew about the rumour sometime ago.

Even if the national media pick up the story and investigate further. No harm would have been done. The story would be either confirmed or denied. Therefore put to bed once and for all. If there are interested parties, then we would hear about them. If venkys do not want to sell, again we will hear about it. We should also bare in mind the syed, venkys and shah were not the only interested parties a year ago - there were others. Though it does appear that when the club was up for sale last time, they concentrated on India - why that was, in itself is a mystery.

Glenn and Kamy please keep up the good work, don't let people grind you down. You made a choice - right one in my view - stick with it.

Who's grinding who down ? Am I not allowed to have an opinion ?