[Archived] Rumour: Venky's To Sell?

[Andy]

Can't disagree with that ^

Also agree with Imy - if these people are to buy the club, a few internet people knowing about them won't stop them.

[philipl]

Frankly if you start a rumour and continue to fuel it you shouldn't be too surprised if it goes to far, in this case it has lead to an "outing" of the prospective buyer.

If you don't want people to throw a name up don't bloody bring it on the board, then identify the location in the podcast, then suggest they are worth billions.

You have reaped what you have sown in this matter.

Just to clarify, I am gratefull for the information, just pointing out that people are bound to speculate on the scraps that are passed around.

No ada you are simply misunderstanding what we are saying.

The prospective buyer had already been outed.

[hawkiiz]

You reckon hawkiiz?

TJ is upset because the name got "out", and that might spook them off, and cancel the "deal".

Maybe someone mentioned the name because they WANTED to cancel the deal, since maybe not all Rovers fans want a new sale of the club?

[Glenn]

Been quietly fuming for a few minutes now and my frustration has got the better of me.

Why is that someone felt the need to publish the Bugshan name on here. How can it help. Those of us who have been aware of this for a few weeks have resisted mentioning the names even in PMs but now it's blurted out. How is 'outing' them going to serve our cause. They can get spooked and Venkys fear losing face like no others I've met.

An ownership like Bugshan's is something we can only dream of and it serves no purpose to put obstacles in the way of something that is beneficial to the club.

It's never nice being lambasted all the time for being 'in the know' but for G*ds sake just think about it if there is a next time, somethings are best protected.

To be fair, the only person suggesting at was Bugshan was Chaddy, who for all his wonderful qualities isn't exactly known as a powerhouse of business information, a lot of people picked up that name and thanks to the power of google, running with it. I'm imagining another name as why would Kamy go to such great lengths to say Arab (an oddly vague term) when "Saudi Arabian" (a much more common term) would have no more given the game away. As you keep saying, there is a possibility we have a potential buyer, doesn't mean there is a potential seller and we have no real clue about their identity other than they are Arabs, Too many people jumping onto the easy answer without bothering to do their research me thinks.

[rovers_rob]

ive heard a rumour its saudi bugshan thats looking to take over rovers

Well done. That is the name that I have been given. Can't talk about this at the moment because it is still unconfirmed, hopefully more soon.

To be fair, the only person suggesting at was Bugshan was Chaddy, who for all his wonderful qualities isn't exactly known as a powerhouse of business information, a lot of people picked up that name and thanks to the power of google, running with it. I'm imagining another name as why would Kamy go to such great lengths to say Arab (an oddly vague term) when "Saudi Arabian" (a much more common term) would have no more given the game away. As you keep saying, there is a possibility we have a potential buyer, doesn't mean there is a potential seller and we have no real clue about their identity other than they are Arabs, Too many people jumping onto the easy answer without bothering to do their research me thinks.

Am I missing something or did Kamy not confirm that he had heard it was bugshan ?

I said last week that I thought this should have been kept quiet and I stand by that comment.

[Blue n White Rover]

Not had a chance to listen to the latest BRFCS Podcast.

Anyone sumarise what is going on with these rumoured "potential" buyers?

Thanks

[PAFELL]

TJ is upset because the name got "out", and that might spook them off, and cancel the "deal".

Maybe someone mentioned the name because they WANTED to cancel the deal, since maybe not all Rovers fans want a new sale of the club?

Why would a genuine Rovers supporter want to cancel a deal such as this. If there is a deal here,venkys would be very very foolish to turn it down. If as it is only speculation at the moment, venkys are considering either getting out completely or even part selling the club, it would be a win win situation all round. Venkys would get money back either for a full sale or a part sale and the club would beneift as well for obvious reasons. IF venkys kept say a 20% stake in the club, that would also be a win situation for them. They would still be able to do their india desires, acadamy etc, still get the publicity, due to being still linked to the club.

Nobody would lose out, in anyway shape or form if either a full sale or part sale of the club is done. So why a Rovers supporter would want such a deal, not to happen, is beyond belief, in my view.

[thenodrog]

So why a Rovers supporter would want such a deal, not to happen, is beyond belief, in my view.

imy might. He worships the ground that the Venkey mob walk on.

[hawkiiz]

Why would a genuine Rovers supporter want to cancel a deal such as this. If there is a deal here,venkys would be very very foolish to turn it down. If as it is only speculation at the moment, venkys are considering either getting out completely or even part selling the club, it would be a win win situation all round. Venkys would get money back either for a full sale or a part sale and the club would beneift as well for obvious reasons. IF venkys kept say a 20% stake in the club, that would also be a win situation for them. They would still be able to do their india desires, acadamy etc, still get the publicity, due to being still linked to the club.

Nobody would lose out, in anyway shape or form if either a full sale or part sale of the club is done. So why a Rovers supporter would want such a deal, not to happen, is beyond belief, in my view.

How can you say that? You know nothing of what these "new arab owners" would want for the club, how they would finance things or if we would even be called Blackburn Rovers FC anymore. Would you rather be Begshan Rovers FC for example?

I think this whole thing has become a bit foolish. Some fans might not like Venkys, but to think they are the worst owner out there, is quite naive. Ask any Liverpool, Man Utd, Pompey or Leeds fan. It is dangerous to blindly jump at any new owner just because they are on the Forbes list.

[booth]

Been quietly fuming for a few minutes now and my frustration has got the better of me.

Why is that someone felt the need to publish the Bugshan name on here. How can it help. Those of us who have been aware of this for a few weeks have resisted mentioning the names even in PMs but now it's blurted out. How is 'outing' them going to serve our cause. They can get spooked and Venkys fear losing face like no others I've met.

An ownership like Bugshan's is something we can only dream of and it serves no purpose to put obstacles in the way of something that is beneficial to the club.

It's never nice being lambasted all the time for being 'in the know' but for G*ds sake just think about it if there is a next time, somethings are best protected.

Like you I'd heard this rumour before and resisted mentioning it, I was told the name in a PM and took it with a pinch of salt. The rumour has been going around for (as you say) weeks now and it was only a matter of time before someone mentioned it somewhere.

Anyway, someone said earlier in the thread, why the hell would anyone want to buy Rovers? We were talking about all the publicity that Venky's have gained from owning BRFC and spending peanuts relatively speaking. To multi billion owners it's even less. Even though a lot of it is bad publicity there's are substantially more people aware of Venky's than there were before. That's quite extraordinary when you think about it. Rovers are often mentioned in the press as being unfashionable, but it just shows how that's a load of bunkum when it comes to getting column inches.

How can you say that? You know nothing of what these "new arab owners" would want for the club, how they would finance things or if we would even be called Blackburn Rovers FC anymore. Would you rather be Begshan Rovers FC for example?

I think this whole thing has become a bit foolish. Some fans might not like Venkys, but to think they are the worst owner out there, is quite naive. Ask any Liverpool, Man Utd, Pompey or Leeds fan. It is dangerous to blindly jump at any new owner just because they are on the Forbes list.

As someone said to me yesterday. "They can't do any worse than Venky's..." (I've censored the swearing from that quote).

[hawkiiz]

As someone said to me yesterday. "They can't do any worse than Venky's..." (I've censored the swearing from that quote).

That quite frankly is a load of rubbish. We could have FAR worse owners than Venky's. Would you rather have Hick and Gillett buy us? I certainly would not!

[alexanders]

Its almost like when a hot girl has been dating a real douche you can just step in and shine.

[booth]

That quite frankly is a load of rubbish. We could have FAR worse owners than Venky's. Would you rather have Hick and Gillett buy us? I certainly would not!

Well I would agree it's too early to say, but playing devils advocate, they've only been here six months. They could get worse, they could get better.

Who knows if things would get better with a new owner or sticking with Venky's is the way forward? None of us could possibly know either way.

Or to put it another way, they say better the devil you know, but at the moment we don't really know Venky's do we.

[hawkiiz]

Well I would agree it's too early to say, but playing devils advocate, they've only been here six months. They could get worse, they could get better.

Who knows if things would get better with a new owner or sticking with Venky's is the way forward? None of us could possibly know either way.

Or to put it another way, they say better the devil you know, but at the moment we don't really know Venky's do we.

Fair point, but since we don't know much about the long term plans for either Venkys or this other party, then I'd rather have Venky's sort out their act, rather than starting all over again from scratch. A billionaire Arab wouldn't know more about running a club than Venkys does. They would simply (probably) have more money, kick Kean out (possibly upsetting the squad yet again). Then who knows what would happen.

[pick32]

After Ali Syed i nwont believe anything until its signed on the dotted line and on the official site. An arab billionair wanting to buy rovers

[imy9]

imy might. He worships the ground that the Venkey mob walk on.

No Drog I simply don't judge people by their look/appearance- unlike your good self.

[john.leigh]

Can somebody please explain to me the implacations of the new Uefa / Premier League finance rulings (when they come into force)?

Are we to be potentially disadvantaged just because geographically we are located to close to several major cities?

Of course we can't compete on attendances with city teams - never have & probably never will. But should we be held back by that forever?

If Venky's do succeed in building our fan base in India then will that be taken into account? Does the new financial ruling look solely at people coimng in through the gate? Surely this can't be so - it couldn't be that simplistic.

Again I don't know the figures but what percentage of the average Premier League teams revenue is actually derived from gate receipts?

[booth]

Can somebody please explain to me the implacations of the new Uefa / Premier League finance rulings (when they come into force)?

Are we to be potentially disadvantaged just because geographically we are located to close to several major cities?

It's not just that, Ewood Park isn't exactly in the best place for a football stadium. It's a ballache for parking for a start. But for anyone who has grown up watching Rovers at Ewood, it's our teams home. That's the only thing that worries me about potential new owners, especially if these new rulings mean the above, I can imagine any new owner brainstorming whether the stadium should be relocated to try and bring in new fans. And then we'd end up with a breeze-block replica.

[AggyBlue]

No Drog I simply don't judge people by their look/appearance- unlike your good self.

Care to expand on that statement, I think I know what you're getting at

[ABBEY]

No Drog I simply don't judge people by their look/appearance- unlike your good self.

Don't matter if they look like Barry white ,Joe brown or terrys orange..what do you judge them by? What they've done or what they look like?

[RovertheHill]

Been quietly fuming for a few minutes now and my frustration has got the better of me.

Why is that someone felt the need to publish the Bugshan name on here. How can it help. Those of us who have been aware of this for a few weeks have resisted mentioning the names even in PMs but now it's blurted out. How is 'outing' them going to serve our cause. They can get spooked and Venkys fear losing face like no others I've met.

An ownership like Bugshan's is something we can only dream of and it serves no purpose to put obstacles in the way of something that is beneficial to the club.

It's never nice being lambasted all the time for being 'in the know' but for G*ds sake just think about it if there is a next time, somethings are best protected.

So let me get this straight. A few pages back you laid into those of us who thought this whole thread was a mistake and potentially damaging to the club but now it's NOT okay for the potential buyer to be named?

[john.leigh]

It's not just that, Ewood Park isn't exactly in the best place for a football stadium. It's a ballache for parking for a start. But for anyone who has grown up watching Rovers at Ewood, it's our teams home. That's the only thing that worries me about potential new owners, especially if these new rulings mean the above, I can imagine any new owner brainstorming whether the stadium should be relocated to try and bring in new fans. And then we'd end up with a breeze-block replica.

Going off topic but you're right that access to Ewood is a pain & I for one wouldn't be too bothered if we did quit Ewood (easy to say when I live in Brisbane now!)

We're called ROVERS for a reason - we roved around from ground to ground back in the late 1800s

Even Jack contemplated moving us out towards Whitebirk I believe before he partially redeveloped Ewood

If there was a compelling financial argument for us to move out then I'd accept it... much as I made my own decision to move from Ossie to Aussie!!!!

[cruz]

Accessing Ewood is a piece of cake and would be destroyed by moving to a souless Reebok style ground with no local pubs that only caters for fat arse drivers who would then moan about it taking 40 minutes to get off the car parks whislt dribbling hot dog sauce onto their fat guts.

Get train (usually free travel on 17 of 19 home games as it's busy and the ticket man can't be arsed) at 1.30.

Enter Navigation at 1.50

Sink 2/3 pints

Stroll to Ewood at 2.30

Sit in seat after a whizz at 2.55

Get train back at 17.38

Plonk arse on couch at home at 18.00

[booth]

Accessing Ewood is a piece of cake and would be destroyed by moving to a souless Reebok style ground with no local pubs that only caters for fat arse drivers who would then moan about it taking 40 minutes to get off the car parks whislt dribbling hot dog sauce onto their fat guts.

Get train (usually free travel on 17 of 19 home games as it's busy and the ticket man can't be arsed) at 1.30.

Enter Navigation at 1.50

Sink 2/3 pints

Stroll to Ewood at 2.30

Sit in seat after a whizz at 2.55

Get train back at 17.38

Plonk arse on couch at home at 18.00

It isn't a piece of cake for everyone Cruz. And not everyone can catch the train as easily.

But I do agree with you about the souless Reebok. I even think the so-called "Theatre of Dreams" is a bit soulless. Then again, their fans take the mick out of us for our lot leaving ten minutes before the end.

For business people it's not just about easy access as well, it's also about pulling in fans from other areas. Like someone else noted, even Jack Walker flirted with the idea of moving Ewood so that there was easier access to the motorway.

[Mattyblue]

Eh? It's only just off the motorway as well!

the only issue is car parking, but we always manage it- without paying an all.