[Archived] Rumour: Venky's To Sell?

[Kelbo]

Do you think whoever did the negotiations did not report to the correct people? Do you think Venkys let Kentaro do negotiations without giving any instructions, or demanding a report on what the deal consists of?

We might not like Venkys, but to assume they are that dumb is a tiny bit embarrassing.

2. Venkys owns Rovers. The link is pretty strong.

I don't know what R Coar's job description is, but I'm sure he is not just a guy to fill a chair and keep quiet. Do you want to enlighten me of his role?

I think almost all roles at the club are to fill a chair, keep quiet and 'toe the line'. In india giving advice or opinions to bosses is viewed as dissent!!

[bob fleming]

Do you think whoever did the negotiations did not report to the correct people? Do you think Venkys let Kentaro do negotiations without giving any instructions, or demanding a report on what the deal consists of? It wouldn't surprise me at all in the slightest to be honest.

We might not like Venkys, but to assume they are that dumb is a tiny bit embarrassing. And just what do you base your confidence in them on? What have they done to date that allows you to believe in and trust them? They have made some of the dumbest decisions I have ever seen associated with my football club. Why shouldn't I assume them to be dumb?

2. Venkys owns Rovers. The link is pretty strong. You mentioned "good name". Don't associate Venky's with our game name. We had a good name before they turned up, now it's in tatters.

I don't know what R Coar's job description is, but I'm sure he is not just a guy to fill a chair and keep quiet. Do you want to enlighten me of his role? Robert Coar has recently finished counting the paper clips at Brockhall, the second part of his assignment starts on Monday at Ewood.

OK, I have no idea, but again why do you think he has any role whatsoever in the running of the club? In case you missed it they removed Williams, Finn and the previous Secretary through a deep mistrust of people who know what they are doing, presumably. People who have a track record of making the best decisions for BRFC.

[hawkiiz]

I think almost all roles at the club are to fill a chair, keep quiet and 'toe the line'. In india giving advice or opinions to bosses is viewed as dissent!!

The owners are not very typical indians then.

[yoda]

I think almost all roles at the club are to fill a chair, keep quiet and 'toe the line'. In india giving advice or opinions to bosses is viewed as dissent!!

That might explain all the crap and rumours that are being banded around,

some of our posters have turned into headless chickens!

[Speedie Dived]

It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Robert Coar is still at the club, he would be good help.

Also, have you ever sold anything, and after the deal was struck, the buyer tells you "oh, and I will pay in stages over x years. Ta!"

Can't take a rumour like that seriously,

The majority of deals in football are paid in stages. Think Jack paid in full early days and Roman did, but as far as i am aware the payments are staged.

[PAFELL]

Do you think whoever did the negotiations did not report to the correct people? Do you think Venkys let Kentaro do negotiations without giving any instructions, or demanding a report on what the deal consists of?

We might not like Venkys, but to assume they are that dumb is a tiny bit embarrassing.

2. Venkys owns Rovers. The link is pretty strong.

I don't know what R Coar's job description is, but I'm sure he is not just a guy to fill a chair and keep quiet. Do you want to enlighten me of his role?

Venkys have shown ever since they have owned the club that they are out of their depth. allowing John Williams to leave was one of the biggest mistakes. Getting rid of the experience within the club to help them run the club. It is obvious they have not understood the transfer system. Right at the very beginning they spoke about loaning and 'leasing' players. Transfer clauses and how money is paid, for example instalements.

They have bought a football club - yet know nothing about football. That is stupid

the allow experienced people to leave the club - before they themselves have understood the business they are now in. Again stupid

They have bought something they do not understand. It is like somebody buying a car, who cannot drive, has no knowledge at all about driving and not really interested in driving. But the car looks good on the driveway.

For me as things stand at the moment, thee is no going back. I want this lot out of the club, both for their sakes as well as the clubs. I hope the players refuse to play in India - if I was in their shoes, I'd refuse.

But if the trip goes ahead, I hope something happens that realy embarrasses venkys that pushes them to sell the club - hopefully to the right people.

[koi]

The majority of deals in football are paid in stages. Think Jack paid in full early days and Roman did, but as far as i am aware the payments are staged.

One of the key factors in us securing those early signings was full payment, very attractive to clubs that.

[greco]

Oh Venkys, do you know it's heartbreaking to read information like this, from not knowing that teams could be relegated, [/u]to not knowing a transfer is being paid in installments, not understanding how the TV money is paid and letting John Williams go.

I feel as if my(our)club is slowly and very publicly dieing.

wait.. say what.. cant be true..

did they really believe teams couldnt/wouldnt be relegated..?

[philipl]

The owners are not very typical indians then.

Agreed, the very clear impression I am getting is that Venky's are not sophisticated and are the antithesis of the modern high intelligence and passionate-to-learn from any source Indian businesses which move across cultures so effectively. This conclusion is not just drawn from watching their total inadequacy at Ewood but from hearing their reputation within Indian business circles.

The Rao children are fortunate that their visionary father built a business with such enormous first mover advantage in a relatively low profit, low priced business he created effectively locking out competition through logistics and scale, that simply honouring their father's memory by replicating what he did has taken them a very long way. That is not to detract from the savvy and drive of Mrs D but she is no role model for enlightened leadership.

[PAFELL]

Agreed, the very clear impression I am getting is that Venky's are not sophisticated and are the antithesis of the modern high intelligence and passionate-to-learn from any source Indian businesses which move across cultures so effectively. This conclusion is not just drawn from watching their total inadequacy at Ewood but from hearing their reputation within Indian business circles.

The Rao children are fortunate that their visionary father built a business with such enormous first mover advantage in a relatively low profit, low priced business he created effectively locking out competition through logistics and scale, that simply honouring their father's memory by replicating what he did has taken them a very long way. That is not to detract from the savvy and drive of Mrs D but she is no role model for enlightened leadership.

Nice way of saying they are thick as two short planks and not to be trusted either.

[koi]

The [email protected] email address seems to have gone through, no reply yet

[thenodrog]

When will the supporters en masse tell Venkys to sling their hook? They are dragging the club down faster than a lead baloon. They are both liars and totally incompetent. The players that are now being sought are a complete joke and barely good enough for the Championship.

Well I waited to renew my ST and thankfully am still sitting on the fence albeit my attitude to not renewing is hardening daily. I've seen / read / heard nothing this summer to date that makes me think that I have made the wrong decision, in fact I'm certain sure that there would be many more following my stance if they had stopped to think first before renewing and who are regretting their impetuousness now. Not buying ST's is just about the only thing that we can do as an effective protest that will not and cannot be ignored at HQ Pune. All those who have renewed can do now should events take a turn for the worst is hold a mass ST bonfire.

[PAFELL]

Well I waited to renew my ST and thankfully am still sitting on the fence albeit my attitude to not renewing is hardening daily. I've seen / read / heard nothing this summer to date that makes me think that I have made the wrong decision, in fact I'm certain sure that there would be many more following my stance if they had stopped to think first before renewing and who are regretting their impetuousness now. Not buying ST's is just about the only thing that we can do as an effective protest that will not and cannot be ignored at HQ Pune. All those who have renewed can do now should events take a turn for the worst is hold a mass ST bonfire.

Venkys read this messageboard. Why not protest on here? At the end of the day we all want the team to be a success. Not buying a season ticket would effect the club, not venkys. It looks like we are going to have a much weakened squad from last season - therefore I suggest the players need the support of the supporters even more.

[BPF]

The owners are not very typical indians then.

Amazing comment.

[BuckyRover]

Agreed, the very clear impression I am getting is that Venky's are not sophisticated and are the antithesis of the modern high intelligence and passionate-to-learn from any source Indian businesses which move across cultures so effectively. This conclusion is not just drawn from watching their total inadequacy at Ewood but from hearing their reputation within Indian business circles.

The Rao children are fortunate that their visionary father built a business with such enormous first mover advantage in a relatively low profit, low priced business he created effectively locking out competition through logistics and scale, that simply honouring their father's memory by replicating what he did has taken them a very long way. That is not to detract from the savvy and drive of Mrs D but she is no role model for enlightened leadership.

Jesus wept.

Get a grip of yourself

[broadsword]

Venky's didn't realise they'd get the Jones money in stages? What absolute prats. All those silly billies saying it's totally normal for senior staff to leave following a takeover, well that's all well and good if the people taking over know what they're doing, eh?

As I said ages ago, their hubris is all-engulfing and is taking us into seriously deep water. Getting rid of John Williams was a disaster. Now it appears they've taken on financial commitments based upon income which is cloud cuckoo land territory.

It looks like they're now cynically plotting an exit strategy but making sure they don't get their fingers burned on the way out. Getting their name associated with the club as a marketing ploy whilst they send us up the swanny financially and then get ready to dump us as soon as is convenient ... it's as low as it gets.

If I get my hands on that fat numb-skull with the girl's hair-do, I will personally slap the taste out of his mouth.

[chaddyrovers]

how likely are the owners to sell us after the Asia Trophy?

I'm getting fed up with us not going forward as a club? we haven't made any signings yet? seems to be alot of in fighting within the club!!!

[rovers_rob]

Agreed, the very clear impression I am getting is that Venky's are not sophisticated and are the antithesis of the modern high intelligence and passionate-to-learn from any source Indian businesses which move across cultures so effectively. This conclusion is not just drawn from watching their total inadequacy at Ewood but from hearing their reputation within Indian business circles.

The Rao children are fortunate that their visionary father built a business with such enormous first mover advantage in a relatively low profit, low priced business he created effectively locking out competition through logistics and scale, that simply honouring their father's memory by replicating what he did has taken them a very long way. That is not to detract from the savvy and drive of Mrs D but she is no role model for enlightened leadership.

When Sky filmed inside a Venky's unit in India, there was a management notice on the wall with a large swastika (Nazi-style, not Hindu-style) inked underneath it. I feared at the time we were being given a message from the local staff.

WHAT ?

Why come out with a comment like that ?

No matter what the owners are doing that comment is bang out of order IMO.

[bob fleming]

All those who have renewed can do now should events take a turn for the worst is hold a mass ST bonfire.

The ST's are of course plastic - it'll be one of the worst bonfires ever seen.

[Kelbo]

WHAT ?

Why come out with a comment like that ?

No matter what the owners are doing that comment is bang out of order IMO.

Not if its true and the archives cannot lie!!

[rovers_rob]

Not if its true and the archives cannot lie!!

Did you see it ? Serious question.

I have watched all the footage and I didn't notice that.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

I saw that too, and just how weird isn't that statement?

Either the transfer clause must have said "Phil Jones can leave for £16m, being paid in stages over 10 years". Then of course the owners would know about it, or the owners must have agreed to it being paid in stages.

There is no way of them "not knowing".

Also, even if it is paid in stages, it is pretty normal for transfers to be done that way, and should not be a problem for Rovers since we can also buy players and pay it off in stages.

Is someone on an agenda to tarnish the good name of Blackburn Rovers (and Venkys) here?

More and more I think there are various forces at work putting out false rumours. I don't doubt Kamy or any other of the "informed" posters - or even their sources. But just that their sources are being fed information that isn't necessarily accurate. As I have said previously - this is so easy with the club being run from India with no strong leadership in the UK. I think Venkys also probably have a hand in this - especially the £50m transfer chest and some of the big names we have been linked with.

Only way we will know is to give it time.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Why should we drag Venky's name through the mud when it looks quite possible they will be gone before long.

I'm praying to God your right philipl

[Grez]

Half of people think that venkys wanted the jones money so they could leave themselves in a better position if they quit. Surely the installment issue is BETTER news for rovers as it means that any future sale will mean future owners get the installment money - not venkys.

Btw - I have no knowledge of any takeover (I seem like the only one in Blackburn by the sounds of it!).

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Well I waited to renew my ST and thankfully am still sitting on the fence albeit my attitude to not renewing is hardening daily. I've seen / read / heard nothing this summer to date that makes me think that I have made the wrong decision, in fact I'm certain sure that there would be many more following my stance if they had stopped to think first before renewing and who are regretting their impetuousness now. Not buying ST's is just about the only thing that we can do as an effective protest that will not and cannot be ignored at HQ Pune. All those who have renewed can do now should events take a turn for the worst is hold a mass ST bonfire.

There has been enough damaage done to our beloved club Theno,PLEASE dont encourage anymore.

Thank you.