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Miker Champions League

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Miker it was no way directed at you as an individual. But in in your post you asked why did people in the know not expose what was going on. I just answered or commented on that point. There were a few who were not happy about Sam being sacked at the time, but still supported the owners.

Yes, I am well aware of that, but I was not one of the people supporting them at the time.

At this point in time, what is being revealed is a horror story. BPF is now saying they are asset stripping. If things are as bad as they seem then people who are in the know and strongly disagree about what's going on should be responsible for leading some action against it.

There's no point of pussyfooting about. Either what is being revealed is idle gossip that is damaging the club, or it is the truth and the club is in peril. Either way, some action needs to be taken. Otherwise what's the point? That once we're relegated the people in the know can come on and say "I told you so"?

If the threat is real, let's start doing something about it.

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Yes, I am well aware of that, but I was not one of the people supporting them at the time.

At this point in time, what is being revealed is a horror story. BPF is now saying they are asset stripping. If things are as bad as they seem then people who are in the know and strongly disagree about what's going on should be responsible for leading some action against it.

There's no point of pussyfooting about. Either what is being revealed is idle gossip that is damaging the club, or it is the truth and the club is in peril. Either way, some action needs to be taken. Otherwise what's the point? That once we're relegated the people in the know can come on and say "I told you so"?

If the threat is real, let's start doing something about it.

Maybe they cannot go into detail due to protecting their sources. But I do agree something does need to be done. Supporters voices do need to be heard. How is another subject.

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There are three distinct very real legal reasons why we are having to tip-toe around this stuff quite apart from respecting sources.

Just PM all the members with the info then its not been done publicly,

that takes away all the sniping about we know something but can't say,

then you would more than likely get maximum support for the cause.

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Just PM all the members with the info then its not been done publicly,

that takes away all the sniping about we know something but can't say,

then you would more than likely get maximum support for the cause.

Unfortunately, some members are not who they appear to be!!!

I will clarify this somewhat, there are members on here who are emplyees of BRFC, there is I know at least one player, a few relatives of players and I can tell you there is at least one person (I believe more) who are employees of Venkys, thats why PM is not an option either!

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First off, thanks to Philipl. Kelbo and BPF for putting some information on the bones of rumour. The news coming out is probably the worst we could imagine. Let's hope the right result (a complete sale or a rich partnership) happens. Of that, I am not exactly hopeful.

For anybody berating us who are not in the know for asking why there were constant and continual 'things are really bad but I can't tell you what they are' and saying that does no-one any good, it's because those posts don't. Now, armed with some real information, we can make some kind of judgement. I think that's pretty much what most of us, if not all, actually wanted.

The only thing you can say about Venkys is that they are capable people. Capable of making a monumental cock-up in 9 months of something that had been run extremely well for a long time. Venkys out? Frankly, yes.

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yoda

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Without a takeover, yes.

I'd go as far as saying that it looks like asset stripping is taking place

I made a post months ago saying that they were almost in a position to walk away at no cost to themselves by selling a couple of players,

I have also been trying to find out their intentions with Venky's express in the UK, all gone very quiete since asking about franchise details and business plans etc.

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Miker Champions League

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There are three distinct very real legal reasons why we are having to tip-toe around this stuff quite apart from respecting sources.

What are they? And respecting or protecting?

Can you tell me what's the point of finding out this stuff and revealing it to the fans if we're virtually powerless to do anything about it (apparently)? Are we achieving anything then besides causing mass panic?

Why doesn't this source just go straight to the media and have their words published anonymously?

I know all about Corporate contracts and laws, but surely there comes a time when public responsibility becomes more important. We can at least be told how high up the chain of command the sources are at the club.

What can I do as a fan?

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What are they? And respecting or protecting?

Can you tell me what's the point of finding out this stuff and revealing it to the fans if we're virtually powerless to do anything about it (apparently)? Are we achieving anything then besides causing mass panic?

Why doesn't this source just go straight to the media and have their words published anonymously?

I know all about Corporate contracts and laws, but surely there comes a time when public responsibility becomes more important. We can at least be told how high up the chain of command the sources are at the club.

What can I do as a fan?

exactly, time to put up or shut up in my opinion, if the club is at stake find away of releasing the info annonimously, it is not hard to do, if I had the info it would be a no brainer.

there is an ex poster who would have a field day with it!

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Just PM all the members with the info then its not been done publicly,

that takes away all the sniping about we know something but can't say,

then you would more than likely get maximum support for the cause.

Sorry, I cannot do that.

For one thing if/when this stuff comes out, I would have compromised the legal position of both the site and myself if I agreed.

Given the number of people who know different pieces of information and are telling it to me, I don't need to jeopardise either myself or the site.

I know this will bring abuse on me.

However, look how things I have been posting for weeks are sadly being confirmed by other people putting them up on this site or nicko putting a version of it in the papers.

Those of us who knew the identity of Bugshan were not going to divulge it but leerover posted the name on here within a day of the podcast going out.

If nothing else, I guess it creates an incentive for Venky's to get a move on with the sale negotiations because the sooner they move on, the less likely it will be people will be interested in finding out what their skeletons in the cupboard are.

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yoda

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Sorry, I cannot do that.

For one thing if/when this stuff comes out, I would have compromised the legal position of both the site and myself if I agreed.

Is the club at stake?

get some balls FFS

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"Waking up and smelling the coffee"

I hope the people of The Trust are sleeping well.

:o ????

Surely they were hoodwinked just the same as you were imy. You should look in a mirror before you fire from the lip so readily.

Is the club at stake?

get some balls FFS

Solution.

Stop drawing out your time in the limelight gunner and email what you know to Yoda. He'll be prepared to pass it on I'm sure. There are many ways other than to compromise this site. Off you go.

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Gav

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Without a takeover, yes.

I'd go as far as saying that it looks like asset stripping is taking place

I'd not go that far, the situation with incoming transfer money couldn't have been foreseen, and has hit more than just us.

Has an asset been used, yes (ALLEDGEDLY), but was that the intention, NO.

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Neal World Cup

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Phillip, having spoken to Cryer about the situation he told me "that he'd heard the same but cannot write a story without hard evidence."

Perhaps you could share what you have with him so an article can be written? As much stick as he gets on here, he does seem like quite a decent chap.

Perhaps this may get the ball rolling with regards to answers?

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