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TBH getting pretty bored with it now, wish they'd just get on with it and try to get to the evidence. Far more concerning for me is the impending financial doom, I really think this could be the big one.

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West Bromwich Labour MP Tom Watson was excellent in his questioning and reduced Murdoch senior to silence at one stage - the rest of the MPs were next to useless. Murdoch is still a menacing figure even in his dotage while his son's management-speak was very annoying. The committee managed to extract little that was new and the Murdochs and Brooks seemed to have learnt their lines from Manuel in Fawlty Towers - "I know nothing". In essence they will get away with it because like the bankers during the financial crisis, the wealthy and powerful always do. Good to see Ed giving Cameron another pasting in the Commons today - the prime minister will have Andy Coulson hanging round his neck for the rest of his political career.

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West Bromwich Labour MP Tom Watson was excellent in his questioning and reduced Murdoch senior to silence at one stage - the rest of the MPs were next to useless. Murdoch is still a menacing figure even in his dotage while his son's management-speak was very annoying. The committee managed to extract little that was new and the Murdochs and Brooks seemed to have learnt their lines from Manuel in Fawlty Towers - "I know nothing". In essence they will get away with it because like the bankers during the financial crisis, the wealthy and powerful always do. Good to see Ed giving Cameron another pasting in the Commons today - the prime minister will have Andy Coulson hanging round his neck for the rest of his political career.

Whose Andy Coulson?

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Woberfully ascerbic and accurate take on the scandal.

The real discomfiture is people's hidden associations being revealed.

But the real threat is that the core political villain of the scandal George Osborne will get outed and with that, Britain's figleaf of financial probity will get blown away.

Meantime it looks like:

- "Climategate" and the hacked emails at UEA is in reality a News of the World dirty

- the number of people hacked amounts to 12,000

- there has probably been some VERY dirty commercial hacking in the USA

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Woberfully ascerbic and accurate take on the scandal.

The real discomfiture is people's hidden associations being revealed.

But the real threat is that the core political villain of the scandal George Osborne will get outed and with that, Britain's figleaf of financial probity will get blown away.

Philip, you really must stop using Americanisms - you use them all the time. Change of subject but read this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-14201796

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Lulsec have distributed the emails to media organisations.

Meanwhilst James Murdoch effectively called a liar by two NoTW heavyweights over the Gordon Taylor hush money. So that is going to be good bye James rather soon in all likelihood.

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There has been a dismissal of a Sun journalist tonight in relation to investigations into hacking etc by News Corp. Will give you more soon

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Whilst the horrible events elsewhere have pushed this out of the headlines, there are more significant developments.

- at last the true villains on the front bench, George Osborne and Michael Grove, are coming under scrutiny for their involvement in hackgate. Losing Osborne to this mess of course could happen just as the world tips into the most awful financial crises.

- stuff is beginning to come out about how NoTW was systematically trying to destroy the Lib Dems for their opposition to the BSkyB deal by NI.

- it is just a matter of time before Piers Morgan will be helping with enquiries as what happened at the NoTW and the Mirror becomes ever more apparent. Louise Mensch hit a bullseye with this one and Morgan's Aikenesque appearance on CNN will become the stuff of ridicule.

- the hacking of the Middletons will be small beer in comparison.

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Great to see Vince Cable roaring back.

The quietly unfolding drama now is the involvement of the Mirror Group in hacking.

The Mirror will probably go bust and Piers Morgan will probably be arrested within the coming few months.

Then the focus will go onto the Mail....

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Glenn Mulcaire has already expressed his sincere regret to those who have been hurt and affected by his activities and he repeats that apology most sincerely.

He was effectively employed by News of the World from 2002 to carry out his role as a private investigator.

As he accepted when he pleaded guilty in 2007 to charges of phone interception he admits that his role did include phone hacking. As an employee he acted on the instructions of others.

There were also occasions when he understood his instructions were from those who genuinely wished to assist in solving crimes. Any suggestion that he acted in such matters unilaterally is untrue. In the light of the ongoing police investigation, he cannot say any more.

From Mulcaire's lawyers whose bills are finally no longer being paid by News International.

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Good to see that Tom Watson is getting a little of the spotlight on this. I was lucky enough to meet him at last year's OrgCon and whilst our politics don't quite line up, he's made remarkable efforts at fighting on behalf of both pro-privacy and anti-censorship campaigns as well as leading the charge against the DEAct (where he acknowledge that defying the whip and speaking out probably banished him to the back benches for life).

He's also a lot of a geek, a bit of a rebel and is quite a fan or rock and metal.

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The New York Times has just published an article with revelations by two unnamed persons about discussions between NI and Harbottle and Lewis which will make very uncomfortable reading for a lot of people in both organisations.

This is also in the article:

In one e-mail, from 2003, the paper’s royal reporter, Clive Goodman, complained to the top editor, Andy Coulson, about a management push to cut back on cash payments to sources, saying he needed to pay his contacts in the Scotland Yard unit that protects the royal family.

The two people also said that in the exhange of e-mails, Mr. Goodman requested permission from Mr. Coulson to pay £1,000 for a classified Green Book directory, which had been stolen by a police officer in the protection unit.

I guess David Cameron had better get working on that grovelling apology he promised the House of Commons if Andy Coulson had lied.

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This is roaring back to the top of the headlines with the latest releases of documents.

In a nutshell- the dismissals for gross misconduct were accompanied by £250k pay-off.

- Cameron's Director of Communications was in on all the phone hacking discussions until he told his staff to stop talking about it

- The emails include details of payments to bent coppers

- The Royal solicitors' work was simply an opinion about a specific legal issue with access to a limited set of documents and not the broad all OK that the Murdochs claimed misleadingly to Parliament

- Key senior NI people and lawyers completely contradict James Murdoch's submission to Parliament.

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