Transfer Window Chat Thread

[otto man]

It's ok mate, I'm with you. Jal getting so many negatives, when in reality hardly anyone - if anyone at all - have seen these lads play. But, plenty of people have already made judgements about them.

These couldn't be the Rovers Fan club, could they?

er..... but doesn't that work both ways Den? Jal "underwhelmed" but hasn't seen them play?

Couldn't be rentamob mentality could it?

[briansol]

Theoretically that is the basis for a good side but has three real major questions:-

1) Won't Olsson and Emerton be easily beaten at full back? I like Martin too but against Wolves when we had a very fragile defence he still spent most of the game in the opponenets half. He seems to find it really hard to hold his ground, always looking for the overlap.... Emerton has many of the same problems as a right back, plus being weak in the tackle and poor in the air.

2) Is Petrovic actually going to be any good? If he isn't we are in trouble as we are desperately thin in central midfield.

3) Whose the stiker going to be? If you stick a Raul or a Cisse up there we begin to look like a genuinely good team. If we stay with Roberts or Goodwillie things suddenly don't look very convincing...

1. I for one always thought Emerton's best position is full back. He did really well there when Bentley occupied right wing. Emerton's constant overlapping created space for Bentley. That also meant that he didn't have to take people on as winger. Defensively I think he coped pretty well. His tackling was ok, and he didn't do rash tackling like Salgado on Saturday or (Jeff Kenna's spell here). I think it was a right back he made his name at Feyenoord originally.

2. I'm a bit worried about the expectations as well. You would think it will take time to adapt to PL, esp for a midfielder. Throwing him in the deep end could be dementrial, but we might have to take that gamble.

3. We definetly need another striker in the hold-up bracket. Right now we have no options besides Roberts to lead the line, Goodwillie and Hoillett can work as second striker, and there is plenty of people to play in the "hole". If everything else fails, I'd say bring back Santa Cruz for another run. At least we know he's got the potential, plus he's very poplular in the dressing room and good for me on FIFA 11

[braddock]

I agree with using MGP at left back. He could be useful in freekicks, throwings and set pieces and use Olsson at wing with his pace. MGP is quite good in defending too.

Pedersen is good at tracking back, not defending. There is a difference. When he's tracking back he only has to make up the numbers and he's always supported by the player he himself is supporting. His presence is what is required to deter the winger from making potential ground on us. The defender themselves is the one continually doing the more meaty defensive work and personally I wouldn't want him dealing with that.

[A Tugay Substitution]

Vukcevic is a great player at times (without a doubt can turn a game single handed), but from what I know about him he has a few personality issues and his career has been hampered by the fact that he is a little bit selfish in his play, his form is eratic and he is a bit of a fancy dan.

A good friend of mine who follows the league called him a highlights player, those lads who when you watch match highlights who always looks great but in a full match is annonymous for large periods of the game. He also isn't the sort of player who will be happy sitting on the bench, and given the attacking lads we have that is likely to happen.

I've followed Sporting for a few years now and no doubt the lad is talented but boy can he sulk and wander around the pitch doing the sum total of sod all. I imagine we will play him as a second striker, he's a great finisher and good on the ball but doesn't have the work ethic to track back which would be an issue if we played him wide, especially with our attacking full backs!

I have to say that along with Izmailov he's been one of the best Sporting players when he's in the mood.

I would have loved Rovers to have signed Liedson as well, quality quality player with huge work ethic and an incredible finisher, but he wanted to go back to Brasil. Without a doubt Sporting's best player over the past 5 years.

[Dariomarcolin]

Ped-dog should be nowhere near that 1st team let alone at full back, the most timid, half-hearted player I've ever seen in a rovers shirt in a long while. In our current predicament (no strikers) we should be playing defenders who can primarily defend as if youre not banging them in it's vital to keep it tight at the back.

Basically I'm saying Givet is the only option for me.

[dubdubdub]

Very funny that.

Did you miss the bit where I cited it as an example of nonsense?

If it was so obviously nonsense and a joke to you and everybody else, why did you bring it up as an example of nonsense? It didn't need saying. You were trying to give your own argument credability by finding the stupidest transfer link you could, which was cleary a joke.

You must hate the Luca Toni one. Bloody nonsense.

[Mercer]

As I've mentioned before, to most clubs, signing players is the easy bit !

Getting the balance between steel and flair is the difficult bit.

I've got a feeling that Kean is getting the mix horribly wrong and all these 'fancy-dan' types you would not want with you in the trenches in time of war!

[A Tugay Substitution]

1. I for one always thought Emerton's best position is full back. He did really well there when Bentley occupied right wing. Emerton's constant overlapping created space for Bentley. That also meant that he didn't have to take people on as winger. Defensively I think he coped pretty well. His tackling was ok, and he didn't do rash tackling like Salgado on Saturday or (Jeff Kenna's spell here). I think it was a right back he made his name at Feyenoord originally.

2. I'm a bit worried about the expectations as well. You would think it will take time to adapt to PL, esp for a midfielder. Throwing him in the deep end could be dementrial, but we might have to take that gamble.

3. We definetly need another striker in the hold-up bracket. Right now we have no options besides Roberts to lead the line, Goodwillie and Hoillett can work as second striker, and there is plenty of people to play in the "hole". If everything else fails, I'd say bring back Santa Cruz for another run. At least we know he's got the potential, plus he's very poplular in the dressing room and good for me on FIFA 11

I remember conceding lots of goals when we were playing a few years ago with Emerton at right back as he kept playing the strikers onside.

[Guest ljb]

PaulPlunkett66 Paul Plunkett

Blackburn also want striker Ibisevic from Hoffenhiem....(via @glen9mullan) #rovers

why sign a player who is injured absolutely stupid and not the big name i was expecting

[Nelsta]

PaulPlunkett66 Paul Plunkett

Blackburn also want striker Ibisevic from Hoffenhiem....(via @glen9mullan) #rovers

why sign a player who is injured absolutely stupid and not the big name i was expecting

We was already aware of him, so i'm assuming there is another name.them ITK said there was a striker that they wouldnt name yet.

glen9mullan glen mullan

@ @PaulPlunkett66 Cough Cough Cough Cough, I aint said that, I aint given a name for the striker as yet :-)

[Eddie]

Why sign a player who is injured? Well if he is only going to miss a month or two I can see no reason to avoid him.

[Oklahoma]

And when Santa returned with experience he was a flop.

Exactly. PL experience only made him worse lol

[Poita]

Pedersen is good at tracking back, not defending. There is a difference. When he's tracking back he only has to make up the numbers and he's always supported by the player he himself is supporting. His presence is what is required to deter the winger from making potential ground on us. The defender themselves is the one continually doing the more meaty defensive work and personally I wouldn't want him dealing with that.

Couldn't agree more. Pederson is not the answer at left back.

I really think olsson will become a very very good left back.

[den]

er..... but doesn't that work both ways Den? Jal "underwhelmed" but hasn't seen them play?

Couldn't be rentamob mentality could it?

Well the Rovers Fans ridiculously waded in with their negatives, despite knowing sod all about the linked players, while the rentamob wisely hold back until they have actually seen them play.

BTW - there does seem to be a common trait to these potential signings, - they're all unknown and cheap.

[Eddie]

Cheap isn't exactly fair. His situation at the club has reduced his fee. A couple of years ago he was heavily linked with a move to Bolton and the fee discussed at the time was in the £5m range.

[Guest ljb]

Well the Rovers Fans ridiculously waded in with their negatives, despite knowing sod all about the linked players, while the rentamob wisely hold back until they have actually seen them play.

BTW - there does seem to be a common trait to these potential signings, - they're all unknown and cheap.

lets just spend all are cash on one big signing then and forget the thin squad we have, we dont have the cash to go out and sign 10 million pound players for each position we need, i prefer this way we have always been a club for pulling out little gems , think how much they could be worth if they pay of and if they flop it hasnt cost loads

[XLM]

Well the Rovers Fans ridiculously waded in with their negatives, despite knowing sod all about the linked players, while the rentamob wisely hold back until they have actually seen them play.

BTW - there does seem to be a common trait to these potential signings, - they're all unknown and cheap.

Unknown to you.

Their gang is rubbish and my gang is cool.

[Stuart]

If it was so obviously nonsense and a joke to you and everybody else, why did you bring it up as an example of nonsense? It didn't need saying. You were trying to give your own argument credability by finding the stupidest transfer link you could, which was cleary a joke.

You must hate the Luca Toni one. Bloody nonsense.

"To give your own argument credibility". Give me strength. Tell you what give me the alternate argument in favour of all the over-hype. It's about to start again with the cycle:

ITK - new link, can't say much

NITK - is he someone to get excited about?

ITK - ...

...to be continued (add infinitum)

Actually the Luca Toni one is so far down the line of in-joke, it's become funny again.

[chris]

I've followed Sporting for a few years now and no doubt the lad is talented but boy can he sulk and wander around the pitch doing the sum total of sod all. I imagine we will play him as a second striker, he's a great finisher and good on the ball but doesn't have the work ethic to track back which would be an issue if we played him wide, especially with our attacking full backs!

I have to say that along with Izmailov he's been one of the best Sporting players when he's in the mood.

I would have loved Rovers to have signed Liedson as well, quality quality player with huge work ethic and an incredible finisher, but he wanted to go back to Brasil. Without a doubt Sporting's best player over the past 5 years.

why is he so cheap?, unlike other people on here who want to blindly believe that every cheap signing is going to be a star and give JAL as minus, I am interested in knowing why at 25 year, top player at the club is available for 2 million?

They sold Ronaldo at 18 years for 13 million, how much would they have sold him for ar 25 years old.

25 years old 2 million, what you think?

[Gav]

BTW - there does seem to be a common trait to these potential signings, - they're all unknown and cheap.

You need to think about the whole package den, not just the transfer fee.

Transfers and wages, not like you to overlook such a thing

[otto man]

Well the Rovers Fans ridiculously waded in with their negatives, despite knowing sod all about the linked players, while the rentamob wisely hold back until they have actually seen them play.

BTW - there does seem to be a common trait to these potential signings, - they're all unknown and cheap.

I think we're just going to have to reserve judgement on them Den. Let them pull on the "Halfs" and see how they do. Hell it's not as if we've any choice in the matter anyway.

[LeftWinger]

They sold Ronaldo at 18 years for 13 million, how much would they have sold him for ar 25 years old.

25 years old 2 million, what you think?

You're right - Ronaldo would be a far better addition to our team. We should go for him.

[Oklahoma]

Sporting Lisbon changed their board of directors in April and their manager in June.

Vukcevic had some problems with the previous managers and was a problem they had to solve. He wasn't part of the team this year and they want to get rid of him since it's his last year of contract.

So they will be happy to sell him for something.

[pick32]

He is available at 2million because he has fallen out with the manager and they have signed Capel to play his position and also brought in Jeffren.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

We need a decent squad before thinking about £10m plus signings. If all the potential deals we've been hearing about over the past 12 hours or so can be pulled off then we'd have a reasonably decent premier league squad. Yes many of the players are unproven but that's the gamble any club takes on a player.

Buying a proven premier league player is expensive and trying to attract one to us right now would be very difficult given our league position. The biggest attraction we can offer is premier league football. Trying to sell Blackburn Rovers to a player already in the premier league is therefpre very very difficult.

Once our squad is settled and we have depth in all areas then it'll be the time to look at Marquee signings.