Transfer Window Chat Thread

[stu07]

If you're a right back up against a left footed left winger you show him inside to keep him off his stronger foot, pace doesn't come into it as you have cover on the inside from midfielders. You don't show a left footer onto his stronger foot to whip balls in

Depends on whether the lad has a good end product, i played against a lad last year when i showed him the line and then narrowed his channel he had no answer. When he did get a cross in he couldn't clear the front post, lots of goal kicks etc. His final was rubbish to be honest and their manager pulled him off. I did play well that day, sometimes it just comes down to the day and how quickly you work out your opponent.

I've played against wingers who are good at coming inside so I show them the line and they still put a good ball in, all day made me look like a tit and i've been subbed, thats just how it goes. There is nothing worse that all your team mates saying you were his *Bitch

[Heinz]

Matavz' agent in talks with PSV Eindhoven. Looks likely we'll miss out on him, hope not ofcourse. Are we definately in for him?

[chris]

Whats all this 'if your a full back' stuff?

If your against a quick player, you nobble them early on, putting doubt into their mind and possibly slowing them down with a little kick

My mates old man played football at a decent level, he was a full back, he said the worse thing about hitting 35 is players starting to skin you who you know 5 years ago would have had no chance.

Thats where Salgado is, he getting skinned too much and its because of his age. He is becoming more reliant on players helping him out with his job.

[chaddyrovers]

I desperately hope so as he was immense for us in the last few weeks of the season. I'm also still unconvinced about our central midfield - we need ball winners in there to compliment our attacking prowess. We should be playing two as we did at the back end of last season and by my reckoning we only have three in the squad, with one of them being Grella. I don't consider Dunn or Pedersen able to play as one of the 2 in a 4-2-3-1 formation and hopefully we have seen the back of the diamond that Kean has experimented with.

I think Dunn can play in the 2. Nzonzi is your Ball Winning in midfielder and Dunn is your deep playmaker in Midfield (Like Tugay did for rovers but Dunn isn't as good as the Legend).

I do accept that Dunn won't play every single game this season so you can't play that way every game. I would imagine that Kean might play Nzonzi and Petrovic against the top 6 to add defensive side of our play.

[Veevs]

None of the other departures are any great loss at all whether it be eleven or philip's exagerated figure of seventeen.

Believe his list included dropped players if I remember correctly.. and one from January (who played a part last season).. so the list in full is something like the one below... which is 17-18 players.. and while most are not a huge loss (happy to see quite a few of them go) they are still squad players (we would never of seen the likes of Myles even on the bench) with many being involved last season (over 40 games and many more times named in the match day 18 man squads), they also make up more than 30% of our overall goal tally for the season.

The reason you have a squads of the size most PL teams do is because injuries happen, and while its all well and good saying Andrews was rubbish he did play and was there in case of injuries, the same goes for many of the lads on the list below.

Fielding

Chimbonda - January

Gunning

Rigters

PJ

JJ

Zurub

Brown

Benjani

Kalinic

Andrews

Potts

Doran

Mame

RSC

EHD - Dropped from squad

Linzaghi - Dropped from squad

Goulon - Dropped from squad

At the moment only Vuki seems on the verge of signing, we are looking at more which is fair enough.. but we do need more bodies asap and at least a couple with some experience.

Take a look at the squad last week.. and note that was with only 4 players out.

Also note how long it takes for most players to settle in the UK.. hell it took Salgado a while to get up to pace, and its much worse for youngsters like Formica and Rochina who have only just looked ready 8 months after signing.

I actually feel very positive about Petrovic and Goodwillie, personally reckon they may turn out to be bargins but we will have to give them a little time to settle.

[LeChuck]

My mates old man played football at a decent level, he was a full back, he said the worse thing about hitting 35 is players starting to skin you who you know 5 years ago would have had no chance.

Thats where Salgado is, he getting skinned too much and its because of his age. He is becoming more reliant on players helping him out with his job.

Most games he is fine. Better than fine actually; he's very good if he contains the winger, but every so often he just can't cope.

If we don't sign Onuoha or someone else capable of playing there, I'd like to see Emerton return to that position. He was solid when he played there under Hughes.

[bennyboyt11]

I think it's pretty clear we need a quicker right back, whether that be this Bruno chap or a new signing, as clubs are beginning to target Salgado. I remember that WBA player who ran rings around Salgado when we played them last year (2-1 to us IIRC).

[Josh]

I think it's pretty clear we need a quicker right back, whether that be this Bruno chap or a new signing, as clubs are beginning to target Salgado. I remember that WBA player who ran rings around Salgado when we played them last year (2-1 to us IIRC).

A very average Jerome Thomas

[Black Burn]

I think it's pretty clear we need a quicker right back, whether that be this Bruno chap or a new signing, as clubs are beginning to target Salgado. I remember that WBA player who ran rings around Salgado when we played them last year (2-1 to us IIRC).

We won 3-1 away and 2-0 at home against West Brom last year, effectively doing the double over them.

[BRFC_Pilkz]

What has happend to Goulon?

[Kelbo]

I have a feeling that Jermaine Jones will end up on loan to us again near to the end of the window - does anyone know if the deal is currently being put forward?I) .

we would have far too many midfielders then, the balance would be poor, Petrovic, Formica,Rochina, Lansbury and the lad from Sporting, along with Dunn, Pederson, Nzonzi and Hoilett!!

we need a striker and a centre back urgently!!

[AmazinTim]

A very average Jerome Thomas

He looked class against Salgado though.

[Blueboy Downunder]

so after more medicals going on at brockhall, than we can poke a stick at....we are no nearer to confirming that mr x, y and z have signed. flippin eck, how slow do these things move along!!

is there gonna be anything confirmed today??

[Majiball]

So we're signing a bunch of eastern europeans lets hope they adapt better than the last one or Kean treats them better.

Anyway onto this Ibesivic, he doesn't look that special to me and if being honest I'd hoped for better. Injured as well so who knows if he'll be fit anytime soon. Can't say I'm that excited by him being linked, he'll probably turn out to dross.

The Lisbon boy well even after selling all their best players to Porto he's still surplus there, fantastic signing and one can only assume we really are trying to open a brothel.

As for the yank, well lets just hope he reads the game better than they understand it and just because Nelsen worked out doesn't mean this one will.

Wouldn't it be nice to get a proven premier league player, but alas without a proven premier league manager I guess we have no hope.

Rubbish targets the lot of them.

[Kelbo]

My mates old man played football at a decent level, he was a full back, he said the worse thing about hitting 35 is players starting to skin you who you know 5 years ago would have had no chance.

Thats where Salgado is, he getting skinned too much and its because of his age. He is becoming more reliant on players helping him out with his job.

Yes, I agree age slows you down but I have said on numerous occassions, if you dont have the right shape, whoever is at right back will get skinned, last year I posted about Emerton who was wide right midfield, trying to get back into position from the left side of midfield as there was no one covering his position, thats a joke, you all move accross one and then you cover the posiition he had left.

Every coach will tell you, shape is the most important aspect of tactics, a team move together as a unit, the strikers shouldnt be too far apart and the wide midfielder shouldnt be much more than 15 yards in front of the full back at all times,the midfield in general should be the same distance from the defence and a similar distance from the strikers, if you dont do that, opponents will run the midfield as you are not closing space!

So if we keep a good shape, there is no need to worry too much about the defence as we would have the cover.

Anyway, back to transfers, we need as I said a centre back of quality to replace Jones and a 15 goal a season striker, I think then we may have a decent squad, assuming these new lads sign.

[Roost]

What has happend to Goulon?

He realised he was crap.

[Black Burn]

So we're signing a bunch of eastern europeans lets hope they adapt better than the last one or Kean treats them better.

Anyway onto this Ibesivic, he doesn't look that special to me and if being honest I'd hoped for better. Injured as well so who knows if he'll be fit anytime soon. Can't say I'm that excited by him being linked, he'll probably turn out to dross.

The Lisbon boy well even after selling all their best players to Porto he's still surplus there, fantastic signing and one can only assume we really are trying to open a brothel.

As for the yank, well lets just hope he reads the game better than they understand it and just because Nelsen worked out doesn't mean this one will.

Wouldn't it be nice to get a proven premier league player, but alas without a proven premier league manager I guess we have no hope.

Rubbish targets the lot of them.

The brothel comment is uncalled for, I believe.

You may be right in that they might not work out (though I would actually wait and see them play before I judge them as awesome or horrible players), but I think it's really harsh to shoot them down even before they set foot on Ewood Park. I disagree that they are rubbish targets, but you seem to be discriminating them based solely on the fact that they have never played in the Premiership or their citizenship (Are you sure Americans don't understand the game?). They may well turn out to be flops, but try not to be so...harsh.

[XLM]

He's trying to get negative votes.

[little_joe50]

we would have far too many midfielders then, the balance would be poor, Petrovic, Formica,Rochina, Lansbury and the lad from Sporting, along with Dunn, Pederson, Nzonzi and Hoilett!!

we need a striker and a centre back urgently!!

I think there is a clear difference between defensive/box-to-box midfielders and attacking midfielders.

What I am saying is that if we are looking to play a 4-2-3-1 then at present we have N'Zonzi, Petrovic, Grella and Dunn (as I accept Chaddy's point that you could potentially play Dunny as one of the two, although I'm not sure his legs are up to it these days) for the defensive/box-to-box positions. That said, I had forgot about the potential signing of Lansbury and he strikes me as being one for the box-to-box category. So if he signs that is five for two positions of N'Zonzi, Petrovic, Grella, Dunn and Lansbury. However, Dunn and Grella are injury prone to say the least and Lansbury and Petrovic are inexperienced. Hence why I would love is to sign Jermaine Jones again as he adds quality and experience.

For the attacking midfielders - the three in a 4-2-3-1 - I agree we are well covered with Formica, Rochina, Vuckevic, Hoillet, Pedersen, Emerton et al.

[ElTwis]

You might have to be slightly more subtle than this to get those minus scores....!

So we're signing a bunch of eastern europeans lets hope they adapt better than the last one or Kean treats them better.

Anyway onto this Ibesivic, he doesn't look that special to me and if being honest I'd hoped for better. Injured as well so who knows if he'll be fit anytime soon. Can't say I'm that excited by him being linked, he'll probably turn out to dross.

The Lisbon boy well even after selling all their best players to Porto he's still surplus there, fantastic signing and one can only assume we really are trying to open a brothel.

As for the yank, well lets just hope he reads the game better than they understand it and just because Nelsen worked out doesn't mean this one will.

Wouldn't it be nice to get a proven premier league player, but alas without a proven premier league manager I guess we have no hope.

Rubbish targets the lot of them.

[Majiball]

He's trying to get negative votes.

What you about guv'nor??? That's me honest opinion.

SHOW ME THE MINUS'S!!!!!

[Majiball]

If you're a right back up against a left footed left winger you show him inside to keep him off his stronger foot, pace doesn't come into it as you have cover on the inside from midfielders. You don't show a left footer onto his stronger foot to whip balls in

As I said it depends on the moment.

You may well have cover on the inside, but all I will do is instruct my central players to drag yours away from that side creating space for him to attack at pace. The other advantage of coming inside is that I can pass the ball and I don't have to rely on a cross which is far less likely to meet one of my team-mates. If you don't come across then I out number you at the other side of the pitch so a quick ball back to my overlapping full back for a far post cross. The thing most hated by defensive players??? People running at them at pace, perhaps in some moments it will be the right thing to do, but Kelbo's right in the main I would avoid it.

The other thing to consider is that pacey players generally can't cross a ball that well and it's not that easy to hit a accurate ball whilst flying down the wing anyway.

[rogerjonesgloves]

What you about guv'nor??? That's me honest opinion.

SHOW ME THE MINUS'S!!!!!

Talking rubbish as usual.

[rovers-baz]

R.e ....Henri Lansbury it looks like we are waitng to here back from arsenal to find out if he`s for sale?

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/872900-blackburn-rovers-waiting-on-arsenal-for-henri-lansbury-decision

[Majiball]

Talking rubbish as usual.

Are you trash talking me?

Best get your gloves off son.