Transfer Window Chat Thread

[dubdubdub]

I remember Roberts scoring a brilliant goal against Everton 2009/10 season.

Was just talking about that Robert's goal but an hour ago. It was shadowed by the Zonz's goal though.

And yeah...cracking goal by Rochina. His other in that game ain't bad either.

[he6rt6gr6m]

I remember Roberts scoring a brilliant goal against Everton 2009/10 season.

From a Kalinic assist.

with all the 1,000 of posts that have been written through out the meaningless threads that have linked eddie the eagle edwards to david beckham; no one has been signed!

GET THE FEELING YOU HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR A RIDE!!

I really hope we sign a few players, damm it we need it. Not long left till the new season. Its going to be a rough ride.

Either nobody will listen or you'll get flamed.

[glen9mullan]

Another point I would like to make............

How is it that on the last day of the transfer season, so many transfers get 'rushed' through at the final hour, yet after many weeks we have not managed to sign

a anyone.

what could possibly take so long to do a deal??? discuss.

Quite an interesting point this, and a lot boils down to cash, in the 8-10 weeks players aint playing competitve games i.e (League games)during close season they are still getting wages, a very good player on say 50k a week could cost you half a million without kicking a ball in anger which actually means something.

Big clubs like Manchester United ect can get their business done quickly cos half a million to them is neither near or there, however smaller clubs do feel the pinch a little,

By signing players later in the window, clubs save cash and hopefully the players they sign are already having a tough pre-season with their existing clubs,

So if rovers for arguments sake bought 4 players first week of June it could cosr em an extra £2 Million in wages which they could save, Sounds daft but £2 million is not to be sniffed at

[Veevs]

Quite an interesting point this, and a lot boils down to cash, in the 8-10 weeks players aint playing competitve games i.e (League games)during close season they are still getting wages, a very good player on say 50k a week could cost you half a million without kicking a ball in anger which actually means something.

Big clubs like Manchester United ect can get their business done quickly cos half a million to them is neither near or there, however smaller clubs do feel the pinch a little,

By signing players later in the window, clubs save cash and hopefully the players they sign are already having a tough pre-season with their existing clubs,

So if rovers for arguments sake bought 4 players first week of June it could cosr em an extra £2 Million in wages which they could save, Sounds daft but £2 million is not to be sniffed at

Double edged sword and very risky approach alas.. players who are (good enough to be) wanted by their clubs become more expensive (however unwanted players drop in value) as replacements become harder to find, available good valued players get snapped up quick (ala witself, Ba, Diarra and Piatti), players have less time to settle (pre-season has already started), you end up with allot of players who started with over inflated prices or wages (and they won't drop that much).. you also end up in buying chains waiting for players to be sold or replacements found.

Overall a much bigger risk on missing out on top targets for small change in comparison to the value good players represent.

[Edit] Its also 1 week to the season start.. no time to settle to say the least and you can now sign 20 100k a week players to hit your 2m.. as you can see stats work both ways

[Athlete]

2 weeks to KO and still no signings are there actually any going too happen..OK we are awaiting a work permit for the big Serb , but a striker is a must !

[Taggart]

2 weeks to KO and still no signings are there actually any going too happen..OK we are awaiting a work permit for the big Serb , but a striker is a must !

Agree with you buddy - its going to soon be twitchy bum time unless we get ink on the paper. How long do work permits take these days, as presumably we are in no rush to get this through in 2-3 days ?

glen - thanks for all your comments and posts, very sensible and I am happy to sit in your camp and wait and see what manifests, must admit I am insanely curious about the targets you mention and who they are, position, calibre etc

[Hekla]

Proves to me that Marica would be good signing if Schalke are signing him.

[philipl]

Marica not coming when we were told we were in prime position could become the story of the next few weeks.

I don't care how realistic other players might be as prospects, the simple fact is that if it comes to Rovers v ANY other top flight club, Rovers are at a huge disadvantge.

1) Kentaro have well and truly put the word out about Rovers and the word is not good

2) Steve Kean is a nobody compared with other top flight managers and anyone who has heard anything about him most certainly will not like what they have heard

3) The backroom staff who have done great things for rescuing players' careers at Ewood are mostly no longer in the positions where their best work

4) We have zero in house experience or competence at hunting down and closing transfers on OK terms in competitive situations.

We are looking like stuffed turkeys at the moment and I don't care what imy9 and braddock post in reply- you guys are just good for a laugh.

With regards to speed of getting work permits- this is a function of how badly you want it quickly, how well you know the system and (sorry to say) which direct lines you have in your phone book. JW usually got them very quickly and if he had been here, the Petrovic Work Permit would most certainly have been granted by now.

I suspect the Work Permit is a smokescreen for cash not being where it is needed to be. I don't like the sound of the rumour Petrovic has had a change of mind about coming to Rovers but again Venky's are going to have to learn that in signing a desirable player, there can be nothing hesitant or half-hearted about the process and the process is not complete until registations, work permits, contract signatures and money transfers are all 100% professionally handled.

[philipl]

Its a fair point. If we lose Kalinic for 6m then that means we will have had 22m "in" in total. Even if we signed Mongers (2.5), Petrovic (3), Raul (2.5), Podolski (10) and Pavone (free) then we still won't have spent all that money on fees. The suspicion is we will probably only spend 8-10m on fees and the rest will "disappear".

The baseline was supposed to be venkys investing 5m of their own money before departures. I doubt we will ever see that 5m.

Incidentally - Phillipl and the other financially aware members - If the Venksters transferred money from transfers out of the club I assume that would be traceable through the publically available accounts? Is this true?

Yes except if what roversinsider is saying is true, Balaji's cash came in and got withdrawn, we will not see it in the balance sheet and perhaps not even in the cash flow statement.

On the cash, the huge question is how they managed to burn so much of it in the eight months they have owned the club.

[Poita]

Marica not coming when we were told we were in prime position could become the story of the next few weeks.

I don't care how realistic other players might be as prospects, the simple fact is that if it comes to Rovers v ANY other top flight club, Rovers are at a huge disadvantge.

1) Kentaro have well and truly put the word out about Rovers and the word is not good

2) Steve Kean is a nobody compared with other top flight managers and anyone who has heard anything about him most certainly will not like what they have heard

3) The backroom staff who have done great things for rescuing players' careers at Ewood are mostly no longer in the positions where their best work

4) We have zero in house experience or competence at hunting down and closing transfers on OK terms in competitive situations.

We are looking like stuffed turkeys at the moment and I don't care what imy9 and braddock post in reply- you guys are just good for a laugh.

With regards to speed of getting work permits- this is a function of how badly you want it quickly, how well you know the system and (sorry to say) which direct lines you have in your phone book. JW usually got them very quickly and if he had been here, the Petrovic Work Permit would most certainly have been granted by now.

I suspect the Work Permit is a smokescreen for cash not being where it is needed to be. I don't like the sound of the rumour Petrovic has had a change of mind about coming to Rovers but again Venky's are going to have to learn that in signing a desirable player, there can be nothing hesitant or half-hearted about the process and the process is not complete until registations, work permits, contract signatures and money transfers are all 100% professionally handled.

There is nothing quite like a post from this " stuffed turkey " to really kick start the day on a positive note.

[broadsword]

I thought we were waiting to get rid of Kalinic before we signed Petrovic?

Because as I understood it, the Rovers a/c is still overdrawn and we cannot sign anyone until we put it back in the black.

[budha]

So it's Kentaro's fault when our ITK's are not that ITK after all? Probably Kentaro's fault too that we haven't got any of the probably hundred names our ITK's have bandied around this summer..

[Captain Spaulding]

Can we not go to wonga.com and get a loan for a month?

[philipl]

There is nothing quite like a post from this " stuffed turkey " to really kick start the day on a positive note.

Nobody can deny that the tenure of Mrs Desai is simply a catalogue of horrible mistakes and catastrophic misjudgements.

Even if she has now learnt from all her errors, we are far too late in the transfer window for a complete newbie like Ali Merchant to learn the ropes and deliver.

There have been so many false starts this window and the Rovers scouting staff been so utterly marginalised that we are now in a worse position than we should have been last March in terms of planning for this window.

Even with a superlative management, backroom and scouting system in place, we would struggle to recover this window from where we are now.

Far from superlative, I would say without fear of contradiction that what we have in place at Rovers is the worst transfer set up in the PL.

Being practical, we now simply have to get very very lucky.

Oh and get the money situation resolved IN REALITY (not in principle/chat about it) to be even able to start in the market. Rovers' credibility is now so low in football, the club will have to show the cash, especially as football creditor preference will almost certainly no longer have any strength when the Select Committee reports today.

[broadsword]

Sounds like they have put their trust in the wrong people from day 1.

I'm confused. Are we just waiting for a work permit for Petrovic, or are we awaiting for Kalinic transfer to go through?

Are there any quotes from petrovic's club in the last couple of days to suggest transfer is going through?

[cruz]

Philip peddling his opinions as fact again.

Who were those Indian Businesses embarrassed by Venkys again?

[philipl]

Sounds like they have put their trust in the wrong people from day 1.

I'm confused. Are we just waiting for a work permit for Petrovic, or are we awaiting for Kalinic transfer to go through?

Are there any quotes from petrovic's club in the last couple of days to suggest transfer is going through?

Probably both Bryan plus actually putting signatures to whatever agreements with bank(s) are being drawn up. Unconfirmed reports from Partizan are that he has gone back to them. Whether that is to train whilst waiting I don't know.

By the way at my minus ratings.

Come to think about it, I wish we could laugh. Basically we are completely screwed over as a club and I fear it is not recoverable this window.

Given the choice, I'd take zero signings and keeping the squad we currently have over what I think we are going to see from now to 1 September.

[G Somerset Rover]

SSN say we've now a accepted bid for Niko (sorry if reported elsewhere) so hopefully we can get signing because that Wolves game seems to be coming round pretty quickly.

Phillip - surely you have to be joking with your final quote above? This squad WITHOUT any signings will go down, there's no doubt about it.

[alexanders]

Sounds like they have put their trust in the wrong people from day 1.

I'm confused. 1) Are we just waiting for a work permit for Petrovic, or are we awaiting for Kalinic transfer to go through?

2)Are there any quotes from petrovic's club in the last couple of days to suggest transfer is going through?

1) Depends on who you believe. Roversinsider or Cryer.

2) Radosav Petrovic agreed to terms about moving to Blackburn and passed the medical examinations. However, to realize the transfer of other clubs to agree and to obtain a work Partizan midfielder

.

British media say the premijerligaš black and whites to pay three million euros compensation.

The Secretary-General Partizan Darko Grubor in an interview with MONDO confirmed that negotiations were still ongoing.

The problem of migration Petrovic Ivud the park could be a work permit because he missed several games in the Serbian national team jersey to get it without a problem. Thus, it will have to await the decision of the Commission for a work permit, which could grant him as a talented player. In the same way work permit is received Zoran Tosic when it turns to Manchester United.

Given that Petrovic has an enviable number of matches for "Eagles", it is expected that the Commission will not interfere in the transfer.

However, as the young midfielder from Ub recently "burned" when he leaves to Vitesse was a done deal, yet it is not, to put initials on a contract with Blackburn no one will confirm that the job is completed. <- from the official site.

Probably both Bryan plus actually putting signatures to whatever agreements with bank(s) are being drawn up. Unconfirmed reports from Partizan are that he has gone back to them. Whether that is to train whilst waiting I don't know. Back this up please!

[broadsword]

I thought we were waiting to get rid of Kalinic before we signed Petrovic?

Because as I understood it, the Rovers a/c is still overdrawn and we cannot sign anyone until we put it back in the black.

To actually mark that as -1, when I was actually just asking a question ... I can only say that someone on here is a little bitch.

[Bobby G]

On the way down unless 3 QUALITY players are brought in straight into the starting line-up. At least. Thats a huge assumption when one of them is Petrovic, who lets face it is rather an unknown quantity and can go either way.

[dubdubdub]

SSN say we've now a accepted bid for Niko (sorry if reported elsewhere) so hopefully we can get signing because that Wolves game seems to be coming round pretty quickly.

Phillip - surely you have to be joking with your final quote above? This squad WITHOUT any signings will go down, there's no doubt about it.

I honestly think, pending disaster, we'd survive with the squad we have at the minute (including Kalsy if the man wasn't an ass). Look at the squads that have just come up and the teams around us and they are extremely weak.

That said...we'd be a lot safer and could push on if we signed three/four good, first team players.

[imy9]

Philip- I'll tell you whats not funny at all, you constantly peddling opinion as fact. I am glad that other posters have picked up on this and your refusal to answer direct questions about what you have posted speaks volumes for you.

I have stuck to my guns and we shall see who we sign between now and September 1st.

Philip peddling his opinions as fact again.

Who were those Indian Businesses embarrassed by Venkys again?

Cruz you need to stop asking the question mate, Phillip's not answering.

[dhughes07]

More doom from one of the guys who brought us the story about a buyout from a group who was actualy buying a pharmaceutical company. Personally I would not trust you as far as I could throw you and quite frankly all you have done over the course of the past few weeks has done nothing only drag the club through the mud. Turn it in ffs

[philipl]

SSN say we've now a accepted bid for Niko (sorry if reported elsewhere) so hopefully we can get signing because that Wolves game seems to be coming round pretty quickly.

Phillip - surely you have to be joking with your final quote above? This squad WITHOUT any signings will go down, there's no doubt about it.

It looks like we are losing Kalinic and we will be incredibly lucky not to lose Samba (and he could go when it is too late to use the proceeds).

Now given the failure to sign anyone other than Myles Anderson in the ten weeks since the season ended, what basis do we have for believing we will make signings capable of being better than Kalinic and Samba between now and 31 August?

To be stronger than last season, in addition we need players better than Jones x2, RSC and Mama Diouf to be added to the squad as well. And we have nothing meaningful in terms of Rovers staff who can make transfers happen let alone grab good players from out of the jaws of other top flight clubs around Europe.

Just sit down and be rational, we are in a terrible terrible situation.