Transfer Window Chat Thread

[rogerjonesgloves]

The goodwillie transfers about like Grella's a few years ago. Not reported anywhere then boom straight on the BBC website.

Don't mention the G word

Well, they will be asking who Roger Jones was then, IMO the best keeper ever to play for Rovers and that includes Brad and Flowers!!

The save at Port Vale is legend.

[Speedie Dived]

The goodwillie transfers about like Grella's a few years ago. Not reported anywhere then boom straight on the BBC website.

You have done it now. Mentioned Grella in the same sentence, the boy might as well retire

The goodwillie transfers about like Grella's a few years ago. Not reported anywhere then boom straight on the BBC website.

You have done it now. Mentioned Grella in the same sentence, the boy might as well retire

The save at Port Vale is legend.

One of my first games was watching Mark Grew in goal and thinking he was the best goalie i had ever seen, I was gob smacked why we did not want him (he was on loan), but then again being 10 my knowledge was limited.

[philipl]

How much have they burned?

You were always pretty sharp with the Trusts annual accounts, I'm sure you can apply the same logic against the Venkys?

Allow me to help you along a little:

At least £5 million on players in January.

Two high wages for RSC and JJ (dont forget, we are running close on 95% annual turn over to wages, so there was no manouverability in the current wages structure).

Sacking Samual Allardyce Esquire (loved that one by Jim) Six figure sum minimum.

Sacking/Paying off/forcing out(delete as applicable) John Williams Another six figure sum.

Pay rises/Bribery(delete as applicable) for current players. (again impacting an already bloated wage bill).

Running a football club is not cheap, factor in the above costs(some, most certainly unnecessary)and the money would dissappear quite quickly I'm sure.

It is also worth considering that the above only takes into account Venkys tenure up to May 2011, if what we are lead to believe is true they managed to blow a small fortune on paying Kentaro to handle transfers up until July, only to pull the plug. Dont reckon Kentaro said ok fair enough and handed the cash back, do you?

Then factor in the unexpected blow of the bank wanting back their cash from the Phil Jones sale.

All in all I would say this has been an expensive venture, with a truly savage financial afterbite for Venkys.

Not that big a mystery imo.

You have other ideas?

I was posting tongue in cheek.

Rovers have got through about £20m of cash since Venky's came in more than the running rate for the Trust would have been.

And there was nothing unexpected abut the bank wanting the cash back on 30 June- it was what Venky's signed up for when they took out the mortgage in December.

[den]

I'm guessing Den doesn't have a clue..he's too busy dissing any name which gets mentioned to have time for suggestions of his own...

Why is it for me to suggest names Yeti? That's for your beloved Venky's and Kean to sort out.

[DanLad]

Can't think of much to be pleased about Tonyoz. Feel free to start the list.

We're playing [by the skin of our teeth] in the English Premier League, we're not a lower league club. we're going to be competing against some of the best players in the world. There's no room for squads of limited ability. We have a squad of limited ability. We need players who can come into the first team, improve it immediately and compete with the best the PL has to offer.

The fans on here who were adamant that losing 7-1 to Man Utd wasn't acceptable, are seemingly in favour of bringing in the likes of Goodwillie. Explain that to me.

Did you think Samba could come in and be a key first team player effectively immediately? How about Nelsen? N'Zonzi?

We have a better pedigree with cheaper signngs than big budget purchases.(caveat - not under the present regime, that remains to be seen)

Goodwillie sounds like a grafter, which will always go down well, but can finish and do a bit around the pitch to lead the line. I saw highlights of him last season and thought he looked a very good prospect. At £2 mill, plus add-ons, that doesn't seem too bad to me.

[den]

Did you think Samba could come in and be a key first team player effectively immediately? How about Nelsen? N'Zonzi?

Irrelevant.

and if you read my post properly, you wont find my opinion of his ability, because I don't have one. I do know though, that we need - and should have the money for - strikers ready to come straight into the first team.

[yeti-dog]

Why is it for me to suggest names Yeti? That's for your beloved Venky's and Kean to sort out.

I'm no lover of Venky's,but unlike some of you miserable buggers I'm still prepared to see how it all pan's out.

[den]

I'm no lover of Venky's,but unlike some of you miserable buggers I'm still prepared to see how it all pan's out.

Aye, give 'em a chance?

[tonyoz]

Can't think of much to be pleased about Tonyoz. Feel free to start the list.

We're playing [by the skin of our teeth] in the English Premier League, we're not a lower league club. we're going to be competing against some of the best players in the world. There's no room for squads of limited ability. We have a squad of limited ability. We need players who can come into the first team, improve it immediately and compete with the best the PL has to offer.

The fans on here who were adamant that losing 7-1 to Man Utd wasn't acceptable, are seemingly in favour of bringing in the likes of Goodwillie. Explain that to me.

den, I know how you feel and I understand your concerns but I just don't feel the same way. I think Venkys have corrected their naive chattiness and now we are desperately foraging around for mere scraps of information. The damage done initially by tall tales of aging superstars will be hard to repair. Venkys and Kean are damned as liars and charlatans and even when we get a stream of good vibes from the club: the video, Jason's diary, Nelsen and Dunny's interviews....they are rejected as phoney.

As for the signings, I like them. I won't hold my breath for a 10 million pound striker. A punt on Goodwillie is sensible - young and with great potential. We have to take some well calculated risks with our money because we can't compete for the top top players. A replacement for J Jones was a priority I think because he made the midfield tick when partnered with firstly P Jones and then with N'Zonzi. Kean has tried to address that with Petrovic - again seems like good value for money. Yes, value for money - that is what i like.

[roverandout]

sick and effing tired of this. STILL no players officially signed, what the hell is going on? Feeling physically ill with all the waiting and nothing happening, how come most of the other clubs if not all have made at least one signing by now and this lot still havent tied anything up?

[beerwins]

sick and effing tired of this. STILL no players officially signed, what the hell is going on? Feeling physically ill with all the waiting and nothing happening, how come most of the other clubs if not all have made at least one signing by now and this lot still havent tied anything up?

No players signed WTF, I read days ago we had some big ol Serbian chap in a medical and yet he is still not signed, what is he Grella mark 2.

Season tickets must not be selling well.

Have we even signed a loan player yet to cover the four players gone?

[booth]

No players signed WTF, I read days ago we had some big ol Serbian chap in a medical and yet he is still not signed, what is he Grella mark 2.

He passed his medical, he's now waiting for his work permit.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

No issue with the scottish kid provided we still spend big on a main striker. Having more options in the squad ahead of the likes of Blackman is a good thing.

[XLM]

Stead's goals kept us up without doubt, but like i said, you just knew he wasn't good enough.Absolute rubbish. Your memory is terrible or you are trying to claim some form

Nope. After he'd saved us every Rovers fan was excited. Nobody was worried. He was a surprise technical flop.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Goodness me, some people are easily pleased

and if you read my post properly, you wont find my opinion of his ability, because I don't have one.

To summarise: you have no idea what this player is like, but you are displeased we have signed him.

[joey_big_nose]

Did you think Samba could come in and be a key first team player effectively immediately? How about Nelsen? N'Zonzi?

We have a better pedigree with cheaper signngs than big budget purchases.(caveat - not under the present regime, that remains to be seen)

Goodwillie sounds like a grafter, which will always go down well, but can finish and do a bit around the pitch to lead the line. I saw highlights of him last season and thought he looked a very good prospect. At £2 mill, plus add-ons, that doesn't seem too bad to me.

This is the nub of the matter. All the best players who have joined Rovers in the last twelve years with three notable exceptions - Bellamy, Jensen and Cole - have been relatively cheap. Even Cruz and McCarthy cost around 3-4m each.

Big money signings like Grabbi, Ferguson, Grella and Kalinic flopped. We have a poor record with guys who have been bought for over the 3m quid. Nearly all of the best players who came in to Rovers over the last decade or so were cheap puchases. I don't really see how that will change.

[Black Burn]

Can't think of much to be pleased about Tonyoz. Feel free to start the list.

We're playing [by the skin of our teeth] in the English Premier League, we're not a lower league club. we're going to be competing against some of the best players in the world. There's no room for squads of limited ability. We have a squad of limited ability. We need players who can come into the first team, improve it immediately and compete with the best the PL has to offer.

The fans on here who were adamant that losing 7-1 to Man Utd wasn't acceptable, are seemingly in favour of bringing in the likes of Goodwillie. Explain that to me.

Please explain to me what bringing in Goodwille has anything to do with losing 7-1 to Manchester United. I don't quite get your point here. I believe Goodwillie has the potential to come into the first team and improve it - for all we know he might be better than Kalinic and Roberts.

Irrelevant.

and if you read my post properly, you wont find my opinion of his ability, because I don't have one. I do know though, that we need - and should have the money for - strikers ready to come straight into the first team.

If I'm not mistaken, Goodwillie isn't the only striker and we seem to be looking for other strikers as well, especially with rumors linking us to the likes of Love (love the name, especially if he plays with Goodwillie), Raul and Podolski.

sick and effing tired of this. STILL no players officially signed, what the hell is going on? Feeling physically ill with all the waiting and nothing happening, how come most of the other clubs if not all have made at least one signing by now and this lot still havent tied anything up?

No players signed WTF, I read days ago we had some big ol Serbian chap in a medical and yet he is still not signed, what is he Grella mark 2.

Season tickets must not be selling well.

Have we even signed a loan player yet to cover the four players gone?

Relax. Petrovic's signing is imminent, pending a work permit. Even when Kalinic signed it took him a week to get his work permit and become an official Rovers player (contrary to what someone said about John Williams being able to get a work permit in a day). And now we are going to sign Goodwillie, who, if reports are accurate, will be discussing personal terms with us in Lancashire, undergoing a medical and signing soon enough.

To summarise: you have no idea what this player is like, but you are displeased we have signed him.

That sounds pretty much it, but I hope den can contradict this statement. I'm sure he's reasonable.

[glen9mullan]

I'm hoping Rovers do confirm the Goodwillie bid today as we need a few strikers, so it may be a case thats its been done from a far, but one other piece of interesting transfer new for you.

Rovers are very interested in signing Park Chu-Young who is the current South Korean captain and plays for relegated Monaco, We have upped our interest and it could yet be a double swoop if we can sort out the fine details holding the Mongongu transfer up

[Speedie Dived]

Nope. After he'd saved us every Rovers fan was excited. Nobody was worried. He was a surprise technical flop.

You were surprised a player plucked from the bottom division in England was a technical flop?

It was a gamble, paid off as his 6 goals helped keep us up. Never going to be good enough though, many knew that.

[The Rover of Finland]

I'm hoping Rovers do confirm the Goodwillie bid today as we need a few strikers, so it may be a case thats its been done from a far, but one other piece of interesting transfer new for you.

Rovers are very interested in signing Park Chu-Young who is the current South Korean captain and plays for relegated Monaco, We have upped our interest and it could yet be a double swoop if we can sort out the fine details holding the Mongongu transfer up

Korean players are technically good and have a very hard work morale. They can run full 90mins. Their names confuses me big time and that´s why I have know idea of this particular player. Probably seen him several times. Maybe few shirts would be sold too, this lad is the captain of Korean national team.

[ada2020]

I was posting tongue in cheek.

Rovers have got through about £20m of cash since Venky's came in more than the running rate for the Trust would have been.

And there was nothing unexpected abut the bank wanting the cash back on 30 June- it was what Venky's signed up for when they took out the mortgage in December.

Clearly I have fallen foul of your dry wit......

Would they not have expected to have the option of extending the mortgage?

[Dariomarcolin]

No issue with the scottish kid provided we still spend big on a main striker. Having more options in the squad ahead of the likes of Blackman is a good thing.

How many times you seen Blackman play?

[the original david brent]

I hope we sign Goodwillie. I follow the SPL, I have seen him play a number of times and he stands out as a real prospect. All the pundits on Sky and ESPN who cover the SPL said last season he will get snapped up by a Premier League club. They seldom say that.

Plus it will make a refreshing change to see us buying a British prospect as oppose to unknown quantities from abroad. (Miles Anderson aside!)

[aXept]

Goodwillie going for a medical ?

[DanLad]

Irrelevant.

and if you read my post properly, you wont find my opinion of his ability, because I don't have one. I do know though, that we need - and should have the money for - strikers ready to come straight into the first team.

Ah, my mistake then. I thought you were intimating that Goodwillie is not good enough to go straight into the first team and improve it.

I was driving at the possibility that Goodwillie might be able to do just that, like Samba, Nelsen etc. That's doesn't strike me as irrelevant, particularly given our track record of finding little gems rather than bringing in big money players that underperform.