Raul

[67splitscreen]

We are after Raul but don't have the cash to land him.

Deja Vu?

Pretty much what I was told yesterday. Wage demands.

Checked the info that had been given to me with Kamy, to get the reply definitely not our or a Venky target, or at least according to what he is being told.

[Exiled_Rover]

We are after Raul but don't have the cash to land him.

Deja Vu?

We don't? Why are we being sponsored by a charity this year then?

[booth]

Pretty much what I was told yesterday. Wage demands.

Checked the info that had been given to me with Kamy, to get the reply definitely not our or a Venky target, or at least according to what he is being told.

You would think exceptions could be made for special cases, like a player that could get us more television coverage, shirt sales and global recognition. He may even help to sell a few chickens.

[Iceman]

RSC was reportedly on 90k a week.. with the likes of M Diouf and E Diouf gone, add Kalinic, and a few others, there shouldnt be an issue with wages.

I just dont think he wants to join us

[Jackson]

We are after Raul but don't have the cash to land him.

Deja Vu?

Deja Vu that you've re-appeared and have immediately started talking b0!!0cks again, pal.

[john.leigh]

We are after Raul but don't have the cash to land him.

Deja Vu?

Those that can, do.

Those that can't, teach.

I have three defenses: 1) I was considering the whole package, not individuals; 2) Blackman is young, did well in SPL, and so could surprise us; and, 3) I was drinking.

Fourth defense - "my drink was spiked..."

[m0r94n]

RSC was reportedly on 90k a week.. with the likes of M Diouf and E Diouf gone, add Kalinic, and a few others, there shouldnt be an issue with wages.

I just dont think he wants to join us

Or maybe the owners saw faults with a massive wage bill and decided it needs to be brought in line. There seems to be an opinion that because we have money, we should be throwing crazy amounts of it about the place. As much as I'd love to see someone lika Raul at the club, I don't want it to be at a detriment to the finances.

[chris]

Things change seemingly on a daily basis at the moment.

Last I heard from Zac, Raul wants to come, fee around 3m, his club want 4m, the player is interested but not sure the son is anymore as philipl has stated.

Pity really because this deal looked like happening a week or so ago, says much about the son really doesn’t it.

3 million for a 34 year old, thats a lot

[booth]

3 million for a 34 year old, thats a lot

For a normal 34 year old you're right, but sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate.

[Emge]

RSC was reportedly on 90k a week.. with the likes of M Diouf and E Diouf gone, add Kalinic, and a few others, there shouldnt be an issue with wages.

I just dont think he wants to join us

Totally agree. Makes me laugh when I hear that we're supposed to afford RSC on 90k p/w (+ quite a few players off the wage-bill) but not Raul himself. Give me a break!

[rogerjonesgloves]

Totally agree. Makes me laugh when I hear that we're supposed to afford RSC on 90k p/w (+ quite a few players off the wage-bill) but not Raul himself. Give me a break!

£90,000 a week is too much for a club with our income.

You have to have a wage structure.

What if he we bought him for £4M, £90 000 a week and was injured after a month?

All your eggs in one basket. We can't buy like Citeh, we can't pay like them either.

[BPF]

Deja Vu that you've re-appeared and have immediately started talking b0!!0cks again, pal.

Eh?

There was ten or twelve posts above mine that said that his wage demands are too high. My post was based upon that rather than any inside knowledge. I would have thought it was obvious by now that I have stopped listening to anything because it changes so often.

When your owners do not want to part with the required cash to land a player, then the club does not have the cash. It was the same under the Walkers. They had the money to get Raul first time around but chose not to. Based on what has been said on this thread, it appears as the situation is exactly the same this time. This is the reason for deja vu...

There really are some fools on this board these days.

Also in regards to the ignorant comment in regards to teaching, give it a try pal. If you make a month without crying then you'll have done better than most.

[Emge]

£90,000 a week is too much for a club with our income.

You have to have a wage structure.

What if he we bought him for £4M, £90 000 a week and was injured after a month?

All your eggs in one basket. We can't buy like Citeh, we can't pay like them either.

I agree with you on this, I really do, but my point was rather the fact that if we payed RSC 90k per week, which he is not worth of course, it kind of irritates me that we "dont have the money to match Rauls demands" (which is around 90k? Does anyone know what he is on at Schalke?). Im sure we could afford paying him what he wants, and quite frankly I wouldnt mind having him at Ewood a season or two on high wages. Imagine having such a legend at Ewood, it would have a big impact.

But anyway, seems like hes not coming here so never mind. I just hope we get a good striker, a proven goalscorer!

[Steve Moss]

3 million for a 34 year old, thats a lot

It is a lot, especially with wages of 90,000 a week which equates to 4,680,000 a year. Essentially, for one year's worth of service we would have to pay Raul and/or his club 7,680,000. I think if I were Venkys I would pass also.

If I were Venkys, I would spend a few extra million and acquire Crouch. He's English (thus helping us with the home grown rule) and is likely to be as prolific as Raul but a better long term investment as he'll have a few more years in him so the cost per year ratio would be less. Just my opinion.

[roverandout]

rovers should be pushing the boat out for a player like raul, screw the wages, pay them, thats the only way rovers will get a player of raul's calibre and a player that rovers need to lead the line, we are going to get nowhere if the venkys arent prepared to dig deep, we will end up with players of roberts' standing. These players make all the difference in league placings at the end of the season.

[Neal]

rovers should be pushing the boat out for a player like raul, screw the wages, pay them, thats the only way rovers will get a player of raul's calibre and a player that rovers need to lead the line, we are going to get nowhere if the venkys arent prepared to dig deep, we will end up with players of roberts' standing. These players make all the difference in league placings at the end of the season.

I remember Portsmouth having a similar attitude to transfers once....

[roverandout]

we are talking about one player. not a squad of players, they should push the boat out on a strker because thats what we NEED.

[steo]

Signing Raul would be amazing,he's a legend and a natural goalscorer so what if he wants 90 k a week his goals would probably be the difference between a relegation struggle and a comfortable mid table position,would be a major coup and fail to see any negatives.

[Iceman]

Raul and Salgado, well if we want to attract more quality then there is nothing wrong with signing Raul. If he does well, he can only say good things about the club, and players won't think twice about joining. Its not just the goals, but like Salgado, his image and winning mentality can only be good for the club.

[Gav]

RSC was reportedly on 90k a week.. with the likes of M Diouf and E Diouf gone, add Kalinic, and a few others, there shouldnt be an issue with wages.

I just dont think he wants to join us

Zacs source says he very much wants to join, but his wage demands are much more than quoted above.

[Iceman]

Zacs source says he very much wants to join, but his wage demands are much more than quoted above.

I can believe it is, but wouldn’t you want to take up the opportunity at least for 1 or 2 seasons? I know it’s a huge amount, to fork out on 1 player, but in terms of what he will bring the team, it could be huge for the club.

[Gav]

I can believe it is, but wouldn’t you want to take up the opportunity at least for 1 or 2 seasons? I know it’s a huge amount, to fork out on 1 player, but in terms of what he will bring the team, it could be huge for the club.

I'd love to see Raul in a Rovers shirt, he still has so much to offer, but with massive wages you have draw the line somewhere Iceman.

[philipl]

Got to remember how taxes work in England now. Hence very high wage demands just to stand still on take home.

That said Germany is likely to tighten up but not in time to make much difference to this deal.

[joey_big_nose]

Got to remember how taxes work in England now. Hence very high wage demands just to stand still on take home.

That said Germany is likely to tighten up but not in time to make much difference to this deal.

Do Germany really have a lower tax burden on the super wealthy?!

[67splitscreen]

Do Germany really have a lower tax burden on the super wealthy?!

I too was interested in that one.

From Wiki.

Income tax rate in 2010

No income tax is charged on the basic allowance, which is €8,004 for unmarried persons and €16,008 for jointly assessed married couples. Beyond this threshold, the marginal tax rate increases linearly from 14% to 24% for a taxable income of €13,469 (€26,938 for married couples). In the subsequent interval up to a taxable income of €52,881 (€105,762 for married couples), the marginal tax rate increases linearly from 24% to 42%. The last change to the occurs at a taxable income of €250,730 (€501,460 for married couples) when the marginal tax rate jumps from 42% to 45%. The course of the marginal tax rate and the resulting average tax rate are depicted in the graph to the right.

[edit] Solidarity surcharge

On top of income tax, the so-called solidarity surcharge (Solidaritaetszuschlag) is levied at a rate of 5.5% of the income tax for higher incomes. Up to €972 (€1,944 for married couples) annual income tax, no solidarity surcharge is levied. Above this threshold, the solidarity surcharge rate increases continuously until it reaches 5.5% when the annual income tax is €1,340.69 (€2,681.38 for married couples).

For example, if €10000 income tax result from a certain annual taxable income, a solidarity surcharge of €550 will be levied on top. As a result, the tax payer owes the taxation office €10550.

Solidarity surcharge is also imposed on withholding taxes on income e.g. wages tax and capital yields tax.

Anyone like to work out where we would have to be on say, !00k€pw curent

Edit, probably a better link, 45% at least.