[Archived] Steve Kean Drink Driving Poll - Sack or Back ?

[philipl]

There are three elements to this which impact Kean's suitability to be employed as Rovers' manager:

- the club extols family values and hat he has been convicted of sets a very bad example to parents trying to teach responsibility to kids and young people

- he is clearly a chancer. Perhaps a good thing on the pitch occasionally but PL football is more about eliminating chance events these days. How does this characteristic translate into his conduct at the club? Not well as I understand it.

- he is a creative fib teller and he doesn't mind who he tells them to. That means anybody dealing with him automatically has an issue with his integrity.

As many people point out, the better at your job you are, the more you can get away with- even pulling the ears of the opposition's management.

The converse is true- the worse at your job you are, the less you can get away with.

On that basis, the fact we are having an Ince or Kean debate means that an interested/engaged owner would have Kean over the exit trap door now as he's certainly not good enough at his job to survive the very serious questions his conviction should be raising.

For all except 14% of the fans, Kean has seriously overstayed his time as Manager at Rovers.

[cruz]

  On 17/08/2011 at 17:56, Glenn said:

and I still believe this thread has validity.

Unlike the Venkys to Sell fairytale thread?

[philipl]

  On 18/08/2011 at 09:14, cruz said:

Unlike the Venkys to Sell fairytale thread?

That was for real unlike most of your posts which come straight out of la la land.

[phili]

I would say CRUZ, that a company does not get KPMG to create a detailed company sales document and send it out to interested parties unless you want to sell as happened in June/July. I would say the venky's to sell thread is highly valid.

[cruz]

  On 18/08/2011 at 09:27, philipl said:

That was for real unlike most of your posts which come straight out of la la land.

Like the plethora of top level Indian companies who are embarrassed by Venkys?

Who were they again Philip?

  On 18/08/2011 at 09:38, phili said:

I would say CRUZ, that a company does not get KPMG to create a detailed company sales document and send it out to interested parties unless you want to sell as happened in June/July. I would say the venky's to sell thread is highly valid.

It take it you have seen this document and can post up a copy as evidence?

[yoda]

  On 18/08/2011 at 04:09, otto man said:

.at whose cost?

At his cost of course!.

and how does he get to games to see the opposition for future games etc looking at possible signings

With the afore mentioned driver by chance?... you're really not thinking this through are you?

I think there is more to being a PL manager than you think

Now if you believe I don't understand the role of a PL manager please explain to me how not having a licence will effect his role. I think you are grasping at straws as you are desperate to see kean sacked

you don't know who is paying to drive him around.

desperate to get him sacked!

not desperate but would not be dissapointed to see him go due to his handling of all situations at BRFC,

what example does DD set to the rest of the squad and apprentices.

Not having a driving licence will restrict his movements however you talk it up.

[Majiball]

Is it company policy at Rovers to break driving laws?

My link

[yoda]

  On 19/08/2011 at 15:17, Majiball said:

Is it company policy at Rovers to break driving laws?

My link

You lead from the top

[chris]

Jenson shuold get sacked fur drivingg whikle talking on his mobile, very dangeruos.

sorrey for spellnig I'm drving, bumpy road, hard to txt.

[Majiball]

  On 19/08/2011 at 15:23, yoda said:

You lead from the top

Does that mean the Roa's also frequently break the law????

[Herbie6590]

  On 19/08/2011 at 15:52, chris said:

Jenson shuold get sacked fur drivingg whikle talking on his mobile, very dangeruos.

sorrey for spellnig I'm drving, bumpy road, hard to txt.

.....this actually made me laugh out loud....very good

[philipl]

Seems that things are slipping out of Kean's grip.

[den]

what's that mean philip?

[thenodrog]

  On 20/08/2011 at 09:21, den said:

what's that mean philip?

Don't spoil it... He knows something we don't so don't deny him the satisfaction of revenge over his scores of doubters. Old Gunners enjoying behaving like a 4th form prick teaser.

[philipl]

There are threads on here discussing Givet, Samba, Olsson, Hoilett and the difficulty of signing players so it is hardly the case that anything is hidden.

Now of course you can read these threads and hope they are not for real or draw the conclusion that Kean needs more moral and managerial authority than he actually posesses.

[yoda]

  On 19/08/2011 at 16:02, Majiball said:

Does that mean the Roa's also frequently break the law????

SK is the manager and that is who I meant and you know that

[rebelmswar]

  On 20/08/2011 at 10:24, philipl said:

There are threads on here discussing Givet, Samba, Olsson, Hoilett and the difficulty of signing players so it is hardly the case that anything is hidden.

Now of course you can read these threads and hope they are not for real or draw the conclusion that Kean needs more moral and managerial authority than he actually posesses.

Well I suggest they fire the puppet and let the puppetmaster run the show.

A clueless child couldn't do far worse.

Man is shrouded in a cloud of denial, Ffs listen to the after match retorts.

[BPF]

Can we get rid of Kean now please? I think the joke has ran it's course now...

[BRFC1995]

Time for kean to go now he gets his own section on sickipedia you know he really is a joke. From sickipedia;

Apparently Raul has rejected a move to Blackburn.

Steve Kean wanted Raul to drive him to training as part of the deal.    

[Wiggy]

The Irish Independent's veiw....quite funny really.

It is dangerous to make too many judgements this early in the season, but it can safely be said that Blackburn Rovers are going places.

They have failed to sign Raul and Robbie Keane but the Venky's are making things happen.

Owners who summarily dispatched Sam Allardyce merely on a hunch know what they are about. Last week we could see why their voices quivered with awe when they appointed Steve Kean to succeed Allardyce.

Kean didn't have a good week after he was found guilty of drink-driving and banned for 18 months.

Yet he hinted in court last week that dark forces were at work when he failed a breathalyser test following Blackburn's game with Manchester United at the end of last season.

The court's swift dismissal of this suggestion in no way lessens the realisation that we are dealing with a man of substance who, given time, will bring joy to the Premier League like few have since Phil Brown.

Kean clearly learned much from Allardyce, even if to Allardyce all he represents is betrayal.

The suggestion that his drink was spiked brought his management of Blackburn Rovers into a new realm. Luckily, he has supportive owners in Venky's -- with their distressing apostrophe -- but there could have been dire consequences for his career following his conviction.

In fact, the Indian owners were said to have taken a "dim view" of his offence.

Anuradha Desai, the chairwoman, had described Kean as man who "thinks well. He has a vision. Mark my words, he thinks well. He's a good thinker. That's his biggest strength".

So he had mulled over what had happened in those fateful hours and concluded that his drink was spiked.

Like all conspiracy theorists, Kean will have asked 'Cui bono?' using the Latin too, undoubtedly, to illustrate the seriousness of this threat to his personal freedom. Habeas Corpus, he might have added, just to show that he thinks well or knows some more Latin.

Even in the cock-up version of history, somebody usually benefits from the downfall of another, but in Kean's case, he will know that he has acquired enemies during his meteoric -- if not completely baffling -- rise to the top.

Keane told the court he had drunk in only two places -- a hotel bar with friends where he enjoyed a bottle of beer which he drank from a small glass and which he left unattended several times (as a good thinker, he will wryly recall Flann O' Brien's line about a man's pint and his wife and how he will take little notice of either unless one or both of them is knocked over in his presence).

Before that beer, Kean had enjoyed a couple of glasses of red wine with Alex Ferguson and ten of the United staff following the game. Kean said his drink was unattended here too.

Only the ridiculous would have come to the conclusion that Kean was insinuating that Alex Ferguson could have somehow been involved in the alleged spiking of his drink.

Steve Kean

[philipl]

Yes, funny article.

Sadly we are a joke club with a joke Manager and joke Owners.

The players are in on the joke as we saw from the performance yesterday with only Samba, Givet and El Hadj Diouf suffering a humour by-pass.

[Majiball]

  On 20/08/2011 at 10:27, yoda said:

SK is the manager and that is who I meant and you know that

Yes I do and always did.

But I like to seize opportunities and it wasn't aimed at you.

[Seggie]

I've had enough now, Venky's and Kean have spoilt something very special to me. I think the only way to get Kean out is to go after the root cause of the problem which sadly are Venky's.

we need to protest and visually regardless of if it's during a match because if that means upsetting the players for one or two games there is a chance Venkys could salvage the situation long term but with that numpty in charge our once proud club is dying a slow painful death

[BRFC1995]

results and footballing failures seemingly won't motivate venkys to bin the yes man, off field less than professional conduct won't motivate venkys to can him, persistant foot in mouth interviews lieing in court and generally coming across as a slimy mug won't motivate them to can him..............SERIOUS QUESTION HOW THE HELL DO WE GET HIM SACKED i'm willing to claim he touched me inapproprately while he wore an ss outfit and made sexual and racial comments about orphans, although i know its in vain as lord only knows why he is more bulletproof than superman.

[FourLaneBlue]

Venky's as owners and Kean as manager.

Hmmm...now where has that Optimism Thread got to?