[Archived] KEAN OUT!

[Bluefudge]

No he said his drink was spiked.

Quality!!!

Be back in time for tomorrow's game.

What an arrogant little man he truly is...,..,

[chris]

Another ten games under Kean and we could be out of sight and I mean from the second bottom team of the PL, his record so far is 5 wins from what 25 games and people want to give him another ten. Kean should have know what he needed way before the season ended, so for me there are no excuses for the team he put out against Wolves, this is another indication of his lack of managerial acumen, for me he has to go, but he is silver tongued and may well talk his way out of this situation.

If you want him gone before 10 games realistically we need to lose the next three games or draw, lose lose. Thats the only way he will be pushed.

If he gets a win or two a) he'll shot up the table, b.) he'll claim he has turned it around.

By the tenth game the table will tell the truth.

[Sadism]

If you want him gone before 10 games realistically we need to lose the next three games or draw, lose lose. Thats the only way he will be pushed.

If he gets a win or two a) he'll shot up the table, b.) he'll claim he has turned it around.

By the tenth game the table will tell the truth.

I really think we will lose the next few games and the ones after that.

[Jimmy Jupiter]

We've a poor side with a dreadful manager. Sad times for us.

Bring back Big Sam! Hell bring back Souness at this point.

[philipl]

No he said his drink was spiked.

Kean should just be spiked in the out try.

As for waiting for ten games into this League season; he will have had well over 30 games in chrge by then- what the heck are you looking for?

[Andy]

I'm honestly staggered that anyone would want to give Kean any more time, on top of the 8/9 months he's already had.

And in that timescale he's shown that he's massively not up to the job.

Why wait longer? He's not shown anything to indicate that he's capable of setting up a team to win enough games to stay in this league.

He's clueless, out of his depth, a blatent liar and a backstabber - the sooner he's sacked, the better.

[rovgers]

What's confusing me, is the people who are shouting "Kean out" are also the people who are shouting for the club to bring in new "bodies".

If we sacked him now, does anybody think that our owners would be able to find a replacement manager and give him time to choose his targets before the transfer window shuts?

At the moment would we be better with Kean's targets coming in or no new players until January!?

[Mike Graham]

What's confusing me, is the people who are shouting "Kean out" are also the people who are shouting for the club to bring in new "bodies".

If we sacked him now, does anybody think that our owners would be able to find a replacement manager and give him time to choose his targets before the transfer window shuts?

At the moment would we be better with Kean's targets coming in or no new players until January!?

Rovgers, an incomer will not be able to find new players in this window. What he will be expected to do, which is the immediate issue, is to organise the present squad and preperation better and get the team playing to their strengths rather than the whirling dervish approach adopted by Son Of Chicken. More than 1 hour per day training would be a good start.

[Blueheart]

The majority opinion is that Steve keen is not up to the job and as such we need to react to this quickly as possible before matt.ers get any worse.

The problem this would leave us with is who could we expect to get to take on the role of manager with the knowedge that he would be acting on behalf of owners who dont know what they are doing and expecting a manager to travel out to India to meet them every 5 minutes and take over a lacklustre set of players without any reasonable funding to rebuild.For someone to take on this role they would have to be desperate for either a job or for the air miles !

[Gav]

So this thread has once again turned into slagging Kean off and isn’t now dealing with the issue for which it was intended, which was:

What are people going to do to try and force the man out of his position?

We’ve got plenty of people on here who have been calling for his head for months, what are you lot going to do about it?

Kelbo? Philipl? Mercerman? 47er? Matty? Bryan? PAFELL? And many more?

We have the Sheffield Wednesday in the cup tomorrow night, how are you going to voice your anger at the current situation? I’d like to know as I’m sure many would.

[dubdubdub]

Rovgers, an incomer will not be able to find new players in this window. What he will be expected to do, which is the immediate issue, is to organise the present squad and preperation better and get the team playing to their strengths rather than the whirling dervish approach adopted by Son Of Chicken. More than 1 hour per day training would be a good start.

I thought the immediate issue about a week ago was to bring in a new striker (or two) and a new defender whilst simultaneously keeping hold of Samba and forcing Junior to sign a new contract.

[Rover & Out]

I can't help but have a lot of sympathy for Kean. It is quite clear that he is out of his depth but then what new manager wouldn't be in a similar set of circumstances?

From the sounds of various reports, it appears he has almost been running the club himself in light of all the departures and the non-existence of the owners.

He has had limited support in the transfer market and hasn't exactly had much luck on the injury front during his tenure.

I do think it is time to put him out of his misery but I do see him as the victim in all of this.

Some people will say he should have stood up to the owners regarding transfers and took control of the whole situation but lets be realistic; the guy has just been offered his first managerial opportunity on the abrupt sacking of a well-respected Premiership manager.

Appointing a new manager may well get us a few positive results in the honeymoon period but I don't see the situation changing dramatically in the long-term.

[phili]

I think either way we look at it, this season is going to be one hell of a struggle.

If you look at the time Souness left to join Newcastle and Hughes took over, that took a whole season to save us from relegation after Hughes appointment in September and i think the squad was better then as well! When Sam took over the squad was more balanced and it still took till virtually the end of the season to keep us up.

If we keep Kean, we will be left with his new recruited players and his way of playing, which seems to be lots of attacking midfield players and no backbone. We also know that these types of players require time to settle as well not being much good in a dogs of war relegation scrap that we are likely to be in. If he is given 10 games to sort it out and money to sign players, we could very well be 10 points adrift at the bottom of the table giving us no chance to get out of it with the player we are being linked with and the existing squad being as disjointed as it is

When the new boss comes in, we're not likely to see any of these new players, until next season as several attacking midfield players or players who like time on the ball are not going to be used until we have our premier league safety assured. We'll be going back to a dogs of war mentality from the first season of Sam and Hughes. I think if we can sack now and bring in a new manager in the next 2 days we should do it now. I think if we sack kean now and keep our existing players and don't bring anyone else in we may still be ok till December if we have a manager who can organize a team.

The issue we have is if we don't sack kean now, and we allow him to bring in his players, then sack him in November we'll be so far adrift we won't be able to get back into contention. We are also only being linked with players who have potential or who are insured and these players are going to take time to settle, if we are as adrift in November as I fear, we'll also end up paying over the odds in January for players so why not spend more now on established players which a new manager is likely to be able to bring in.

[Mike Graham]

So this thread has once again turned into slagging Kean off and isn’t now dealing with the issue for which it was intended, which was:

What are people going to do to try and force the man out of his position?

We’ve got plenty of people on here who have been calling for his head for months, what are you lot going to do about it?

Kelbo? Philipl? Mercerman? 47er? Matty? Bryan? PAFELL? And many more?

We have the Sheffield Wednesday in the cup tomorrow night, how are you going to voice your anger at the current situation? I’d like to know as I’m sure many would.

Gav, I have a voice like a fog horn, ask Paul, Den and 1864Roverite.

I am going to let go and blow my trumpet heartily tomorrow night; if Son Of Chicken fails to hear then he must be drunk.

I can't help but have a lot of sympathy for Kean. It is quite clear that he is out of his depth but then what new manager wouldn't be in a similar set of circumstances?

From the sounds of various reports, it appears he has almost been running the club himself in light of all the departures and the non-existence of the owners.

He has had limited support in the transfer market and hasn't exactly had much luck on the injury front during his tenure.

I do think it is time to put him out of his misery but I do see him as the victim in all of this.

Some people will say he should have stood up to the owners regarding transfers and took control of the whole situation but lets be realistic; the guy has just been offered his first managerial opportunity on the abrupt sacking of a well-respected Premiership manager.

Appointing a new manager may well get us a few positive results in the honeymoon period but I don't see the situation changing dramatically in the long-term.

if he were a n injured or sick puppy/chicken he would be put down.

[EgyptianPete]

Rovgers, an incomer will not be able to find new players in this window. What he will be expected to do, which is the immediate issue, is to organise the present squad and preperation better and get the team playing to their strengths rather than the whirling dervish approach adopted by Son Of Chicken. More than 1 hour per day training would be a good start.

Again I will say this, I believe that Kean is not recruiting players our DOF is the man doing the recruiting, doesn't matter when Kean goes, a proven manager can shape a team with what he has available, point I am making Roy Hodgson went to West Brom who were in dire relegation worries and took that team to mid table safety, where as Kean took a well run mid table team to near relegation. If he stays as our manager he will achieve that this season. None of us want that, and as many have posted he has been in charge some nine months which is nine months too bloody long.

[Gav]

Gav, I have a voice like a fog horn, ask Paul, Den and 1864Roverite.

I am going to let go and blow my trumpet heartily tomorrow night; if Son Of Chicken fails to hear then he must be drunk.

I don't doubt that for one minute preston blue, good man, direct action, exactly whats required

[True Blue & White]

Some people will say he should have stood up to the owners regarding transfers and took control of the whole situation but lets be realistic; the guy has just been offered his first managerial opportunity on the abrupt sacking of a well-respected Premiership manager.

Which is why he was employed in the first place, Sam would have questioned/moaned about the pathetic £5m per window and agency led transfers, Kean wouldn't.

[jim mk2]

If Venky's are listening only to the advice of the senior players as has been stated on here then the best course for fans might be to try to lobby the players instead of the owners. Roberts is obviously a hopeless cause but the likes of Nelsen, Samba, Robinson, Salgado etc might be receptive. The players aren't stupid however - if Rovers continue to bump along the bottom for a few more weeks I would imagine they will voice their concerns to the owners.

[Bluefudge]

Going to be travelling 2500 miles to shout my head off at the useless, spineless, lying poor excise of a man..,,.

Time we took back Ewood!!!!

[EgyptianPete]

I can't help but have a lot of sympathy for Kean. It is quite clear that he is out of his depth but then what new manager wouldn't be in a similar set of circumstances?

From the sounds of various reports, it appears he has almost been running the club himself in light of all the departures and the non-existence of the owners.

He has had limited support in the transfer market and hasn't exactly had much luck on the injury front during his tenure.

I do think it is time to put him out of his misery but I do see him as the victim in all of this.

Some people will say he should have stood up to the owners regarding transfers and took control of the whole situation but lets be realistic; the guy has just been offered his first managerial opportunity on the abrupt sacking of a well-respected Premiership manager.

Appointing a new manager may well get us a few positive results in the honeymoon period but I don't see the situation changing dramatically in the long-term.

Well my fellow Rovers supporter looks like you have fallen for his silver tongue, this guy can charm that's for sure, but he won't convince me.

[Bluefudge]

Excuse even !!

[Rover & Out]

Which is why he was employed in the first place, Sam would have questioned/moaned about the pathetic £5m per window and agency led transfers, Kean wouldn't.

Of course Kean wouldn't, he's just been offered a permanent Premiership job out of nowhere.

Based on his limited managerial experience and lack of proven ability, he's hardly in a position to be making demands of his new employers.

Kean gets sacked....he won't find another Premiership job elsewhere.

Allardyce gets sacked...walks straight into another similar job.

You must be able to understand why he's hasn't exactly rocked the boat since taking over as manager.

[TimmyJimmy]

So this thread has once again turned into slagging Kean off and isn’t now dealing with the issue for which it was intended, which was:

What are people going to do to try and force the man out of his position?

We’ve got plenty of people on here who have been calling for his head for months, what are you lot going to do about it?

Kelbo? Philipl? Mercerman? 47er? Matty? Bryan? PAFELL? And many more?

We have the Sheffield Wednesday in the cup tomorrow night, how are you going to voice your anger at the current situation? I’d like to know as I’m sure many would.

Add my name to that list and change the timescale to the last 12 months. What to do about it - absolutely nothing! What's the point it's far too late, we're way up the creek without a paddle.

Be realistic who'd come with the Venkys in charge, only the desperate. Anyone with a reputation would lose it in a season at Ewood. Venkys will not provide funds, so any new guy will be stuck with the current squad. Everyone knows the issue with the squad make up and balance. There are no backroom staff left, the place is an empty shell. Everyone from the doctor to the chairman have either walked or been pushed.

Stable doors and bolting horses come to mind. The only way to fix this is not with a managerial change but with an ownership change PLUS a managerial change. That's not going to happen, we've been around this loop umpteen times, the Venkys won't sell - end of story.

Colour me bitter, but that's how I see. They've crapped all over the club, it's heritage and traditions and reduced us to a laughing stock. It took a miracle to keep us up last season and it will take another this season. Everything that can be said has already been said - trouble is no one is listening.

[yoda]

Two weeks into the season. No points...hardly the end of the world. Everton just lost to QPR at home.

Who wants to leave exactly? Givet? Dispute before the new owners. Samba? Has wanted to leave for a good two seasons. Jones? Tapped up by United who got ravaged for more money than they wanted.

And with regards to all the best people at the club having left...that's not even part of your argument. On that basis you should be protesting about Venkys, not Kean. Did he force Venkys to sack them or tell Williams to take a hike? No.

Stop talking balls.

I am protesting about the Rao's, many emails to them, still does not change the fact that Kean is useless. Its not just the 2 weeks into the season, what happened during his charge last season, you cannot just forget it, that would be talking balls

The Rao's have got rid of many good people at the Rovers, thats where the buck stops.

open your eyes

[A cup of beans]

What are people going to do to try and force the man out of his position?

Weve got plenty of people on here who have been calling for his head for months, what are you lot going to do about it?

Kelbo? Philipl? Mercerman? 47er? Matty? Bryan? PAFELL? And many more?

We have the Sheffield Wednesday in the cup tomorrow night, how are you going to voice your anger at the current situation? Id like to know as Im sure many would.

im sure they'll all be there, gav!

possible wasted opportunity if not!