den Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 For me it HAS to be 6 points Yes, I agree with that Tom. We have ten points, so whatever we pick up in the next two games will make the total points going into January [with the safe assumption that we get nothing at Man U or Liverpool]. Even 16 points would make it very difficult for us to get to 40. 12, or 14 points going into new year would be an irretrievable situation in my opinion.
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Backroom DE. Posted December 17, 2011 Backroom Posted December 17, 2011 To stand a chance of survival we must win both of our next matches, no question. Keeping a clean sheet in at least one of them would do the team's confidence a world of good too (not to mention help out with our negative GD). I'm still very much conviced we're going down, though.
thenodrog Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 For me it HAS to be 6 points Unfortunately our rivals have more wily managers than us by a country mile and imo will prove more difficult to beat than Kean could ever hope for us to be. A squad over full of lightweight ballerina's and with just one midfield growler is not best equipped for a relegation dog fight. Unfortunately it is quite the opposite. Hughes and Allardyce were very well aware of that and our squads and tactics reflected their survival instincts whilst imo this goon is more interested in making a few bob for the Rao's etc out of showcasing random Carlos Kickaballs and trading them on. Nothing wrong with that in principle of course (and I suggested a similar arrangement might work when Hughes was here).. if it's done over time with a club that is comfortably mid table and relegation was not a by product. Pity that the opportunities that he has had were not afforded to the aforementioned top drawer managers.
John Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Understand the negativity however you are giving our relegation rivals too much credit IMO.
jim mk2 Posted December 17, 2011 Author Posted December 17, 2011 Understand the negativity however you are giving our relegation rivals too much credit IMO. ........ because we are better than them ? Wigan have ground out some creditable wins and while Bolton look poor at present I think they will revive. I would not be surprised if we finished bottom of the table - with Kean still in charge of course.
den Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Understand the negativity however you are giving our relegation rivals too much credit IMO. The problem is John, whatever the other relegation candidates are like, it doesn't get us up to 40 points. If we finish with 32/33 points we'll go down for sure. We have to do it ourselves.
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 If Rovers get six points from the next two games then that keeps us in the battle for survival, it doesn't get us out of the mess just gives us a fighting chance. Should Rovers get less than six points from the next two then they are pretty much down looking at our fixtures ahead, I can't think of many sides that have been bottom at Christmas and have survived.
BuckyRover Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 If Rovers get six points from the next two games then that keeps us in the battle for survival, it doesn't get us out of the mess just gives us a fighting chance. Should Rovers get less than six points from the next two then they are pretty much down looking at our fixtures ahead, I can't think of many sides that have been bottom at Christmas and have survived. Only happened once. West Brom iirc
frosty Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 With Liverpool and United up next, 6 points off West Brom and Bolton is a must. But I just don't see how we're going to get 6 points - we've never won consecutive PL games under Kean. Never mind two in the space of four days!
Stonesrick Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Understand the negativity however you are giving our relegation rivals too much credit IMO. I also think that there are a few on here who are bigging us up after a couple of ok performances. Can't help but feel that Hodgson will relish taking on our novice of a manager today.
John Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 I also think that there are a few on here who are bigging us up after a couple of ok performances. Can't help but feel that Hodgson will relish taking on our novice of a manager today. Like Swansea, WBA are pretty average - whilst I don't think we will go on a crazy unbeaten run, especially under Kean, reckon it could be quite comfortable for us today.
Stonesrick Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Like Swansea, WBA are pretty average - whilst I don't think we will go on a crazy unbeaten run, especially under Kean, reckon it could be quite comfortable for us today. After 12 months of purgatory, I wish I shared your confidence John.
Backroom DE. Posted December 17, 2011 Backroom Posted December 17, 2011 Like Swansea, WBA are pretty average - whilst I don't think we will go on a crazy unbeaten run, especially under Kean, reckon it could be quite comfortable for us today. A Rovers game comfortable? Which team have you been following the last 12 months mate? I'd love for you to be right, but I can't remember the last time we had a comfortable win. Even Swansea got it back to 3-2 before we finally finished them off.
John Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Nicko's pal Coyle doing well at the moment....
RibbleValleyRover Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Rovers now have to get wins against Bolton and Liverpool/Man United after dropping points again (no chance). We look dead and buried, I don't think any manager can get us out of this mess.
jim mk2 Posted December 17, 2011 Author Posted December 17, 2011 WILL THE LAST PERSON TO LEAVE EWOOD PARK PLEASE TURN OUT THE LIGHTS ? What has happened to our club in the past 12 months is so very sad.
John Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Clearly, not as comfortable as I thought it would be...
BRFC1995 Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 we could save money on press conferences.......do a joint one with bolton with joint dismissals this evening.
G Somerset Rover Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Nicko's "gem's" both seem to be struggling a bit?
Amo Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Done and dusted About time people accepted it, grim as it is. Time to forget the glimmer of hope with a new manager, because there WON'T BE ONE.
Backroom Tom Posted December 17, 2011 Backroom Posted December 17, 2011 About time people accepted it, grim as it is. Time to forget the glimmer of hope with a new manager, because there WON'T BE ONE. It sank in for me in the first half to be honest, so flat, so devoid of any nouse
Balwer Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 While this thread may seem way too premature as it stands there is only one outcome unless something changes. Three beatable teams and 0 points, we're already playing catch up and with the fixtures to come it will be extremely tough to get out of the relegation spots thereafter. 3 and a half months on and nothing has changed. It's a slow and painful death that's sucking all the passion and enjoyment out of football for me. I fluctuate between apathy and sadness and embarrassment that this is what it's come to, that everyone was able to see it coming and that nobody has been able to do anything about it despite the best efforts of many. Merry Christmas Venkys and Kean. I hope you take some time out over the festive season to reflect on what sort of impact you've had on the lives of others.
Audax Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Balwer: That's a good way to describe it, a slow death, this has to be it for Kean but with the next game Tuesday? Maybe the people who stay he will continue are correct, anyway, Tuesday is practically no time at all. Kind of like torture, Chinese water torture, one drop of water at a time.
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