[Archived] The Relegation Thread

[Amo]

Obviously they are. Time has confirmed that. Rem the Venkeys have the say in the matter not you nor anybody else no matter how clever you think you are.

So what's the point of you and Jim's constant backslapping? I mean, really? Who are you trying to convince?

Jim conveniently forgets slagging John Williams off to high heaven before having to backtrack.

And you didn't give a certain Mark Hughes any hope as manager.

You don't see people point-scoring with those gems every five minutes.

It's a shame because the pair of you can talk a lot of sense, but the never ending Sam love-in makes you look like a pair of groupies.

[Steve Moss]

Quite possibly, if BFS and the imposter were the only two options.

1. You don't get one, without sacking the other.

2. Put more simply, do you give up the bird in the hand for the two in the bush? As a Rover fan of average IQ (plus or minus, depending on the issue) even I know the answer to that one.

[phili]

The one thing i don't get out of the past 12 months is this.

When Sam left and JW, mrs Desai came out with what she had learnt from her dad in that in business you had to get 9 out of 10 decisions right to be a success. She then went on to say sam and jw had got 70% of transfer decisions wrong and that is why they had to go etc.

Now with Kean how the hell can she still back him knowing that she has got 100% of any decisions she has made since owning the club wrong never mind 10%?

[david_daft]

Obviously they are. Time has confirmed that. Rem the Venkeys have the say in the matter not you nor anybody else no matter how clever you think you are.

If that's the case there was only one option, Kean. So probably time to stop banging on about, eh?

Great post david daft.

You are obviously another with a top IQ.

All I can say is that if you lot are clever then I'm glad to be thick.

Never claimed to be clever Gordon, just bored of a pointless subject

being re-hashed for the squillionth time.

maybe time to let go, eh?

1. You don't get one, without sacking the other.

2. Put more simply, do you give up the bird in the hand for the two in the bush? As a Rover fan of average IQ (plus or minus, depending on the issue) even I know the answer to that one.

Don't forget, a stitch in time saves nine.

I know it don't make sense but you started it.

[BuckyRover]

Leave it out David. For him to go on about it ad infinitum, he must be surprised that he has got something correct. Especially as he is now using this as a barometer of intellect.

[imy9]

So what's the point of you and Jim's constant backslapping? I mean, really? Who are you trying to convince?

Jim conveniently forgets slagging John Williams off to high heaven before having to backtrack.

And you didn't give a certain Mark Hughes any hope as manager.

You don't see people point-scoring with those gems every five minutes.

It's a shame because the pair of you can talk a lot of sense, but the never ending Sam love-in makes you look like a pair of groupies.

Could we pin this, saves having others repeat it lol!

[jim mk2]

Leave it out David. For him to go on about it ad infinitum, he must be surprised that he has got something correct. Especially as he is now using this as a barometer of intellect.

Seeing as you have got it all wrong on the owners and the managers from day one there's only one conclusion to make about your intellect.

Fail.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

the only difference being we don't have Jack/The Trust prepared to bankroll £40m+ to get us back up this time as we did last time.

You'd need to reduce the wage bill by 50-60% to fund the club on parachute payments at the minimum and have a injection of capital of £10m on top of player sales and we'd still be in big trouble if we didn't get up in two seasons.

I think people are forgetting that even with parachute payments our turnover would be reduced by £25m+ a season.

A horrific scenario when added to the fact that season ticket costs would also probably rise to see Championship football.

Staring into the abyss.

[thenodrog]

Leave it out David. For him to go on about it ad infinitum, he must be surprised that he has got something correct. Especially as he is now using this as a barometer of intellect.

You brought it up brains.. my post was merely a riposte.

A horrific scenario when added to the fact that season ticket costs would also probably rise to see Championship football.

Staring into the abyss.

Indeed that is the horrific scenario that I initially forecast on here when the Rovers decided to reduce the price of them in the first place. Seemed a great touch on the surface of it until the Prem funding disappears and we have to double the price of them.

[thenodrog]

So what's the point of you and Jim's constant backslapping? I mean, really? Who are you trying to convince?

Jim conveniently forgets slagging John Williams off to high heaven before having to backtrack.

And you didn't give a certain Mark Hughes any hope as manager.

You don't see people point-scoring with those gems every five minutes.

It's a shame because the pair of you can talk a lot of sense, but the never ending Sam love-in makes you look like a pair of groupies.

My misgivings re:Hughes have been explained many times Topman. Don't try to twist my words I never wrote him off as a manager.

As for Allardyce's dismissal it's all so frustrating to see BRFC die in front of my eyes from a decision based on a mixture of malice and stupidity made by people who have absolutely no emotional bond with Blackburn Rovers whatsoever but who were noisily supported and in some ways encouraged by stupid people who had neither concept nor care for the consequences of their actions.

Our predicament is all so unecessary, I'm not sure whether Allardyce would have survived the poison dart even if he had enjoyed 100% support from the fans but Dastardly and Muttley would surely have had their mischievously agenda'd work cut out to a far greater degreee.

The only thing Jim and I have in common along with Den, Paul, Vintage etc etc is that we are old enough to remember the depths the club sank to following relegation from the top flight in 66. For 25 years it was horrific and still would be but for one very wealthy and very determined man. This time it will be much worse.

You lot simply do not know what you are in for and my contempt for the spoilt and terminally gormless Championship manager / Fantasy Football generation could not be more complete. You won't know what you've lost till it's way too late.

[Amo]

My misgivings re:Hughes have been explained many times Topman. Don't try to twist my words I never wrote him off as a manager.

As have many people's stance towards Allardyce. Doesn't stop you and Jim's endless posturing, does it? Judge not lest ye be judged, old son.

Our predicament is all so unecessary, I'm not sure whether Allardyce would have survived the poison dart even if he had enjoyed 100% support from the fans but Dastardly and Muttley would surely have had their mischievously agenda'd work cut out to a far greater degreee.

Do you honestly believe the fans factored into this, Drog? Because I sure don't. Nor do I think they had anything to do with John Williams's decision to overlook Allardyce in the Summer of 2008, either. Williams made it very clear what kind of manager he was looking for when he immediately sounded out Alan Shearer for the job, before opting for the next 'best' thing in Ince.

I'm pretty sure Anderson & co could've told the Venky's just about anything and they would've bought it, without needing to manipulate fan opinion. We are, after all, talking about the same people who penned a new contract for the league's worst manager.

The only thing Jim and I have in common along with Den, Paul, Vintage etc etc is that we are old enough to remember the depths the club sank to following relegation from the top flight in 66. For 25 years it was horrific and still would be but for one very wealthy and very determined man. This time it will be much worse.

At least Den appears to have had the good sense to drop it now.

You lot simply do not know what you are in for and my contempt for the spoilt and terminally gormless Championship manager / Fantasy Football generation could not be more complete. You won't know what you've lost till it's way too late.

Really? I think relegation is a terrifying prospect for almost every fan of the club right now. We all know it could be another Pompey scenario on the horizon or worse, and the club will do well to even compete in The Championship on current form. So yeah, probably best not to discriminate against an entire generation of fans because a few are out of touch, because you could easily twist that for some of our older members too.

[den]

At least Den appears to have had the good sense to drop it now.

[jim mk2]

At least Den appears to have had the good sense to drop it now.

[Paul]

You'll not get the four of us to Ewood on that!!!!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

My misgivings re:Hughes have been explained many times Topman. Don't try to twist my words I never wrote him off as a manager.

As for Allardyce's dismissal it's all so frustrating to see BRFC die in front of my eyes from a decision based on a mixture of malice and stupidity made by people who have absolutely no emotional bond with Blackburn Rovers whatsoever but who were noisily supported and in some ways encouraged by stupid people who had neither concept nor care for the consequences of their actions.

Our predicament is all so unecessary, I'm not sure whether Allardyce would have survived the poison dart even if he had enjoyed 100% support from the fans but Dastardly and Muttley would surely have had their mischievously agenda'd work cut out to a far greater degreee.

The only thing Jim and I have in common along with Den, Paul, Vintage etc etc is that we are old enough to remember the depths the club sank to following relegation from the top flight in 66. For 25 years it was horrific and still would be but for one very wealthy and very determined man. This time it will be much worse.

You lot simply do not know what you are in for and my contempt for the spoilt and terminally gormless Championship manager / Fantasy Football generation could not be more complete. You won't know what you've lost till it's way too late.

Hey, you forgot me.

[thenodrog]

Hey, you forgot me.

Sorry Tyrone.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I'm old enough to remember the dark days of getting stuffed 7-2 at Shrewsbury. The only good thing about getting older is you've got accumalated wisdom, you get to the point were nothing surprises you any more.

[jim mk2]

Getting old isn't much fun as my creaking aching joints remind me every day but at least the experience of being around for x number of decades means you can spot the bleeding obvious a mile off and why the disaster of the past 12 months is no real surprise.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Getting old isn't much fun as my creaking aching joints remind me every day but at least the experience of being around for x number of decades means you can spot the bleeding obvious a mile off and why the disaster of the past 12 months is no real surprise.

I know what you mean Jim, my left ankle is about the only joint that doesn't ache. Lancashire climate is a killer, funny but when I'm out in Spain the aches vanish ! I agree this diasaster could be seen coming a mile off, it's a shame the Trust/Rothschilds held the telescope up to their blind eye.

[Audax]

I know what you mean Jim, my left ankle is about the only joint that doesn't ache. Lancashire climate is a killer, funny but when I'm out in Spain the aches vanish ! I agree this diasaster could be seen coming a mile off, it's a shame the Trust/Rothschilds held the telescope up to their blind eye.

Maybe you need a happy light, sounds crazy but I've done about all not to catch something serious in past winters but this winter, so far, so good with the most simplest of solutions. I just bought the low cost one, there are expensive ones too.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Maybe you need a happy light, sounds crazy but I've done about all not to catch something serious in past winters but this winter, so far, so good with the most simplest of solutions. I just bought the low cost one, there are expensive ones too.

How Much ? Does she come with the light ?

[Tom]

Wolves drew at Brum, good news for us as they need to play another game now

Small victories and all that

[jim mk2]

[aletheia]

Tyrone and Jim

[finndaloo]

My misgivings re:Hughes have been explained many times Topman. Don't try to twist my words I never wrote him off as a manager.

As for Allardyce's dismissal it's all so frustrating to see BRFC die in front of my eyes from a decision based on a mixture of malice and stupidity made by people who have absolutely no emotional bond with Blackburn Rovers whatsoever but who were noisily supported and in some ways encouraged by stupid people who had neither concept nor care for the consequences of their actions.

Our predicament is all so unecessary, I'm not sure whether Allardyce would have survived the poison dart even if he had enjoyed 100% support from the fans but Dastardly and Muttley would surely have had their mischievously agenda'd work cut out to a far greater degreee.

The only thing Jim and I have in common along with Den, Paul, Vintage etc etc is that we are old enough to remember the depths the club sank to following relegation from the top flight in 66. For 25 years it was horrific and still would be but for one very wealthy and very determined man. This time it will be much worse.

You lot simply do not know what you are in for and my contempt for the spoilt and terminally gormless Championship manager / Fantasy Football generation could not be more complete. You won't know what you've lost till it's way too late.

I very much empathise with these thoughts, to some extent the success we have recently enjoyed has spoilt us all. made us immune to, if not unaware of, the depressing decline you describe above, but at least there was something honest about that time we spent scrabbling in the third division mire, I cared about Tony Field et al and believed the club management did as well whereas now it seems to me that all of the passion and honesty that drew people to a league liner trip to Watford is being sucked out of the club, Venkys are vampires and Kean is their nasty set of dentures.